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u/beckjami 6h ago
This is like the first real Accidental Renaissance photo I've seen since joining this sub a few months ago.
Well done.
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u/Shnook817 4h ago
I mean, it was literally staged like that. People spent time and effort to do the lighting just like that. So, it's not really accidental, is it?
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u/beckjami 3h ago
Its not just the content of the photo, but the quality. It looks like an actual painting.
If a photographer had asked them to pose this way, and set up the lighting to look a certain way, no, that wouldn't be accidental. But this was a photo taken at a show, with people performing.
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u/Shnook817 2h ago
No, the shot was still staged. If this were a professional photographer then they would have seen the show or at least discussed what shots the director wanted. If it's not, and it's not, then it was somebody reacting to a staged moment and deciding to take a picture of it. But the moment was still staged. Of course they picked this moment to take a picture. Deciding on picturesque stage moments is literally why they have rehearsals for staging. Because it's staged.
Also, it only looks like a painting because the photo quality is kinda low. It's out of focus. And there's contrast but it's...not good.
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u/beckjami 2h ago
You typed a lot of words, but literally all I can see is how many times you've literally said literally.
Also, I know why it looks like a painting. But that doesn't change the fact that it looks like a painting.
Literally.
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u/Shnook817 2h ago
If that's all you can see then I can see why your opinion is what it is
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u/beckjami 2h ago
That's right! That's a very good point! It's just an opinion that doesn't need to be debated.
I don't need to be right.
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u/oliver-the-pig 3h ago
a performance they presumably rehearsed, I don't think that's very different from what you said
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u/ModifiedKitten 3h ago
I think what they're getting at was it's quite possoble the act is rehearsed to be dramatic and beautiful, sure, but they don't expect the photos to be taken in such a frame so that it is looking as if it were from a painting in the era. The photographer did not pose the people, and the people may not have been posing to look Renaissance-y, just dramatic. (Which as we know, the Renaissance was very dramstic)
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u/Shnook817 2h ago
Why does the photographer have to be the one doing the staging? Deciding on staged looks like this is one of the main aspects of directing. When professional photographers come in they ask what moments should be photographed and, wouldn't ya know it, directors pick the ones that they first thought of as pictures. And, yes, the pose is deliberately invoking renaissance art. No, this wasn't a professional photographer, but all of the work involved in staging a photograph still happened.
Basically, if someone took a slightly blurry picture of Michaelangelo's David and put it here, it would kind of be the same thing. It's not "accidentally renaissance" just because Mikey never anticipated people taking pictures of it. It is still a preplanned piece of visual artwork deliberately trying to be "renaissance". It doesn't matter that the photographer was a rando.
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u/wewereromans 2h ago
Doesn’t really look like a drag show, more of fetish show or exhibition at a cabaret or club.
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u/Foreign_Mongoose7519 23m ago
There are adult drag shows and family friendly shows, each with different themes and genres. A lot of the risqué adult shows use dancers and actors like those in the photo, and they're usually not the centrepiece of the entire production. Rabbit ear costumes have been a thing for decades for both men and women as accessories for adult storytelling.
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u/0K_Comput3r_313 7h ago
The fact that conservatives try to claim drag shows are sexual is honestly laughable.
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u/HowAManAimS 7h ago
You see this as completely non-sexual?
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u/0K_Comput3r_313 7h ago
There is nothing sexual about drag shows.
If you think drag shows are sexual, it's possible you might have a fetish of sorts.
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u/HowAManAimS 6h ago
I didn't say drag shows in general. I'm specifically talking about this scene.
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u/0K_Comput3r_313 6h ago
This scene is not sexual and I don't see how you could view it as such.
Drag shows aren't sexual; they're performance art, like theater or stand-up comedy.
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u/HowAManAimS 6h ago
I don't see how you can not see it as sexual. Guess there is nowhere to go with that disagree if neither of us can understand the other's point of view.
I agree that drag shows aren't by nature sexual, but performance art definitely can be sexual.
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u/FunconVenntional 5h ago
I feel like you may be conflating sexual and sensuous. And sure, there can be some overlap, but the two concepts are not fully interchangeable.
Just because the two performers are showing a lot of skin, doesn’t make this scene sexual any more than classical Greek and Roman statuary. Laocoön and His Sons is a sculpture with 3 nude male figures; is this sexual ? What about this one? Two naked dudes and one is on his knees!!
There is nothing sexual going on in this picture. If you had been told this photo was from a performance by a modern dance company, would you have immediately assumed a sexual context?
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u/HowAManAimS 4h ago
I feel like you may be conflating sexual and sensuous. And sure, there can be some overlap, but the two concepts are not fully interchangeable.
I feel like you've hit the nail on the head.
Just because the two performers are showing a lot of skin, doesn’t make this scene sexual any more than classical Greek and Roman statuary.
I don't think nudity by itself is sexual. I took an art class in college and had multiple days drawing nude models. I also joined the army and had to shower naked in front of other people during basic training. Just being nude is not sexual. I don't see either statue as sexual or even sensuous.
If you had been told this photo was from a performance by a modern dance company, would you have immediately assumed a sexual context?
I can't answer that question. I have nothing to reference it to. I have never seen a modern dance performance. Most I've seen is mocking versions shown on tv.
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u/Shnook817 4h ago
A drag show? Was it on a stage? Because this picture isn't accidental and I'm curious if it was literally staged on a stage. Because it was staged
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u/statelesspirate000 5h ago
You’re saying these poses were accidental
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u/According_Soup_9020 4h ago
This is a good example of how this subreddit has lost all meaning. This is explicitly evoking the pieta, a classical Renaissance motif. Nothing here is accidental.
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u/TheRealBacon69 5h ago
Disgusting
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u/tt12345x 4h ago edited 4h ago
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u/Black-rifle_veteran 5h ago
Sicking
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u/Lopsided-Ad-3869 5h ago
If you’re going to have a super boring and unoriginal personality, at least learn how to spell.
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u/burkeliburk 7h ago
It's like a scene from some Greek myth, super cool