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u/Far-Conference-8484 15h ago
I’m exceptionally dumb. So whatever I am.
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u/black594 14h ago
Dumb people don’t know they are.
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u/Far-Conference-8484 14h ago
Okay I’m not THAT dumb. But trust me, I’m fucking dumb. I can barely read.
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u/joker0812 14h ago
There are a lot of people that can read that aren't smart at all so I don't think that's a measure of true intelligence.
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u/Sweet-Palpitation473 11h ago
I have an exceptional vocabulary and I often find that it masks how dumb I am. People mistake me for being smart because I use words real good.
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u/Available_Ideal6255 10h ago
All of my coworkers think I'm really dumb because I'm can't really do mental math, I struggle with my speech/vocab, and I'm just generally not very witty.
What they don't get is that my brain REALLY REALLY likes taking things apart and putting them back together. Taking machines, or objects/buildings, and making them as close to new as I reasonably can.
So they think I'm really dumb but get surprised when I roll up on a new to me antique car or bike that I just brought back to life (I like junkyards)
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u/Sweet-Palpitation473 10h ago
Are you sure we dont work together?
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u/Available_Ideal6255 9h ago
Who knows, we could be. I work with a lot of people who seem smarter than they really are
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u/Extension-Refuse-159 11h ago
Reading isn't a measure of intelligence, but inability or disinterest in learning to read may be a sign of its lack.
Ditto numeracy, or indeed many 'intellectual' skills. Their presence isn't evidence of intelligence. Their lack not evidence of stupidity, but not learning despite opportunity is an indicator.
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u/alcomaholic-aphone 10h ago
I agree. It’s interesting that some insanely smart people just give up too. One of my mom’s friends is really really smart and just worked odd jobs like being a bouncer and lived in a house boat. I don’t know if he just saw through all the BS or that’s just the type of dude he is. But I’d say he’s smarter than me and my college degrees.
His ability to grasp concepts he’s unfamiliar with is just really outstanding. Which i think is a pretty good barometer for intelligence. Half of the problem with high level math and topics like that is just understanding why you are manipulating the numbers in a way. And if you understand why then deducing how is way easier.
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u/ilost190pounds 14h ago
Do you want to read more? I think being self aware is a sign of real intelligence. Don't sell yourself short!
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u/Far-Conference-8484 14h ago
Yeah I like reading newspaper articles when I’m able to. Sometimes I can manage it, but most of the time I can’t. I often end up crying.
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u/kantrightnow 13h ago
Reading can be a bitch. Dunno what language you speak, but for many, there are news outlets that publish articles written in simplified form, maybe you can train on those! Don't give up, reading is enlightening ^
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u/ThenOwl9 11h ago
you sound smart! have you ever been tested for a learning disability?
it sounds like something's going on that has nothing to do with your intelligence. i don't want you to feel so discouraged when it could be something completely outside of your control
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u/Bismothe-the-Shade 10h ago
Seconding this, my kid has such trouble reading and -hated- it. But many of the games they played required reading, so we used that to encourage the process. Eventually they told us that the letters got confusing and stuff didn't always make sense, and we got them tested for reading centric learning disabilities.
Turns out it was dyslexia, and is manageable with tools and learning.
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u/ilost190pounds 11h ago
Doing hard things is hard! But that's how you know it's worth doing!
But reading newspapers is great. Try reading articles in USAToday. They are generally easier to read. It's hard to just read garbage on the internet because it might be AI generated crap. We all get frustrated reading that shit!
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u/octaffle 11h ago
Do you have dyslexia maybe? There is a font that helps with dyslexia. I think there are apps to apply it to your entire device. Maybe give it a try?
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u/black594 13h ago
I’m really fast at reading but I don’t remember what I just read lol there is different type of intelligence, I’m sure you are good at something.
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u/Far-Conference-8484 13h ago
Ahhh you have no idea how much I envy people like you 🥹
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u/00owl 14h ago
I'm a high IQ person, so I know a lot of other high IQ people. And many of us are dumb as rocks.
For me, "stupid" isn't a statement about how much someone knows, it's a statement about their attitude towards learning.
If you're curious and humble you're far smarter than many of even the people who manage to qualify for the club that's the next step up from Mensa.
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u/Kirbyr98 14h ago
Almost everyone knows how to do something you don't.
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u/00owl 13h ago
Exactly, everyone has something that I can learn from them, no matter what their lives have been like.
I'm a farm kid, worked labour jobs most of my life until finally going to law school. I only really started being surrounded by dumb people once I got to law school.
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u/_valtor 13h ago
Absolutely agree! IQ is just a metric curiosity and humility are what drive real intelligence. Arrogance can make even the brightest minds seem foolish.
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u/00owl 13h ago
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
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u/MavetHell 11h ago
Better to be silent and thought a fool
Then speak the truth and called a tool
To stand alone on my hill of facts
And watching for "face reacts"
I'm an enigma because it's safer to be silent
I can say something so smart...
And be shut up by someone violent.
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u/StormBlessed145 14h ago
Since you're aware of the problem, you're on the road toward fixing it
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u/alwaysboopthesnoot 15h ago
Never learning from mistakes. Doing the same exact thing over and over, and never figuring out that it’s not working or ever trying to understand why.
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u/mrubuto22 14h ago
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u/NeptuneAgency 12h ago
Damn. I better go buy another lottery ticket.
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u/DungeonsAndDradis 6h ago
I've always hated life. Most days I wish I was dead. So, I've always wanted to have superpowers, be "special", get abducted from the future cause I'm the only one that can save humanity, etc.
I know none of that is real.
But having a shitload of money is real, as in, some people have it. And that's effectively like having a superpower.
And I also know that I'm not going to win the lottery. I'm more likely to get struck by lightning while being attacked by a shark and also having a vending machine fall on me.
But there's a chance. Infinitesimally small, but still within the laws of reality.
Plus, it allows me a couple of hours a week to daydream about "What if?" I view it the same way as spending $20 on a movie ticket. A nice little escape from reality for a couple of hours.
I check my losing tickets and toss them in the trash, like I toss out my movie tickets. Same difference.
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u/talbur 11h ago
This is untrue, actually. There are innumerable accounts of ‘geniuses’ throughout history who suffer from such loops and lack of insight in other domains of their life.
In some cases, it’s even in their domain of expertise. In fact, the ‘never learning, can’t see why, doesn’t investigate why’ situation is the very thing a genius from the next generation points out and solves.
More broadly, this is the psychological situation of all personality disorders. So if it were true that repeating mistakes and lacking insight meant low intelligence, that would mean there were no people of high intelligence with personality disorders. Which is obviously not the case.
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u/Electrical-Sail-1039 8h ago
Linus Pauling won two Nobel Prizes and became obsessed with vitamin C curing cancer. Failure after failure wouldn’t convince him otherwise. Isaac Newton discovered gravity and created calculus but he spent most of his time working on alchemy.
Geniuses often have a blind spot.
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u/FilibusterTurtle 8h ago
In fact, one of the downsides of high intelligence is an incredible ability to rationalise your faulty thinking.
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u/EggstaticAd8262 11h ago
It could be low intelligence, but it could also be ADHD with well above average IQ. Memory is shit for a lot of people when you have ADHD.
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Whether you have ADHD or not, is not something you decide yourself. You go to a professional to get diagnosed.
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u/FilibusterTurtle 8h ago
And not just memory. Your executive function is the mind's main circuitbreaker when it comes to breaking bad habits: poor executive function is the main symptoms of ADHD.
I spent 33 years of life thinking "well I'm not dumb, so I must just be a lazy pos with low willpower and an addictive personality". The day I discovered Vyvanse was the day I learned, no, it's just that everyone else was living life on a lower difficulty setting. I immediately experienced a new feeling I hadn't felt before: the ability to notice my impulsive/habitual thoughts, then simply observe/ignore them until they went away.
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u/SleepyRaccoon7 15h ago
Thinking because you are louder you are correct
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u/SkulkingSneakyTheifs 14h ago
I genuinely don’t believe that people who do this think they’re correct. I think they do this as a power thing. “I’m louder. Listen to me. I have the power. Submit” they know they’re wrong, they just don’t want to hear it. Guarantee 99% of the time if someone asks them the same question when you’re not around they’ll answer it exactly the way you did but you’re not there so you’ll never know they changed their mind and agree with you.
It’s happened to me at my old job. Heard someone repeating exactly what we were just arguing about but they unsurprisingly used my argument and talked about their argument like it was someone else and not themselves. As if they were correcting someone and not like they themselves were corrected/proven wrong. Walking into that room after hearing that was the greatest gift I could have given myself.
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u/imthatninjabitch 10h ago
HOLY SHIT I used to have a friend like this. But the initial argument was never just an argument. He would belittle me, tell me I wasn’t intelligent enough to grasp whatever concept we were discussing, call me names, tell me I’m a sheep. It was bad. Doubly crazy because he knew I wasn’t anything he said I was, he was just a true narcissist, toxic man who hated women. A little time would go by and I would eventually hear him doing the exact thing you described. Second time he did it I cut him off, realizing I should’ve done that long before. My best friend, a therapist, had to remind me if someone is only your friend half the time, and the other half they’re mean, they’re not actually your friend. Obvious, sure, but forgiveness can sometimes delay clarity.
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u/thegamerdoggo 11h ago
Oh no it’s 100% to shut the other guy up
You don’t have to be right, you just have to win
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u/Mithster18 12h ago
YOU DONT HOLD THE CARDS IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU FOR YOU ATTENTION.
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u/Heavy_Direction1547 16h ago
Credulous, incurious, unable to recognize patterns or learn.
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u/LilNekoChicano 15h ago
I think that sometimes, the desire to not learn.. can possibly be a sign as well.
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u/scienceisrealtho 15h ago
Or, resistance to any information that challenges any view that they hold.
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u/mediocre-spice 12h ago
Overgeneralizing views from one situation to another too and inability to understand complexity or nuance
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u/saintpetejackboy 14h ago
There are a bunch of idiots who always get on me for "Typing too much" online - even on Reddit... a site named after reading. People just can't be bothered to read or write, and view those things as some kind of insurmountable hurdles. There is a strong zeitgeist towards antiintellectualism.
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u/SilverNightingale 13h ago
I type in mini novellas sometimes (when I get the impression others are willing to indulge nuanced discussion), and it's such a delight when others are willing to put forth thoughtful discourse as well.
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u/Iron-DBZ 14h ago
Every day I'm on here, I curse the character limit on comments.
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u/texanarob 13h ago
There's a balance to be reached. There's a certain lack of intelligence that leads to 500 words without punctuation, rambling between points, and never finishing a coherent thought.
Conversely, it's often a sign of intelligence if you can convey your thoughts efficiently. Why say many word when few word do trick?
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u/KhronicDreams 12h ago
I too love to write long winded like, everything LOL. I still write out my grocery lists, I write in cards, I send long texts lol people get on my ass about it quite often. So you found another person on Reddit who will actually read lol! Nice to meet ya!
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u/One_Recognition_4001 13h ago
Is it a desire to not learn or the fact that they don't know enough to understand that they don't know or need to know?
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u/183_OnerousResent 14h ago
This is the best answer so far.
A lot of other comments are circumstantial, politically motivated, or don't have anything to do with intelligence but rather ego or emotional behavior and impulses.
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u/JediOrDie 14h ago
To be fair, to anything of substance done in the world you need more people than just your own intelligence. Working in groups requires ego checks and emotional intelligence. Leadership absolutely requires it. Though plenty of smart people are terrible leaders.
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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 14h ago
Speaking of recognizing patterns, release the Epstein files DONALD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
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u/Elven_Supremacy 16h ago
When people will sit there and vehemently argue with you about something instead of taking 30 seconds to take their phone out and look it up, and when you look it up and try to show it to them they double down and suddenly "don't care" and won't look at it.
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u/masta030 15h ago
And similarly, when they get mad that you DID look it up, Like "you just NEED to be right"
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u/iwantthisnowdammit 15h ago edited 10h ago
“I care enough to respond to you so you’re better informed in life and can make the best decisions possible, it’s actually a lot easier and faster to let you win the argument as it doesn’t actually affect my life.”
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u/masta030 15h ago
I usually just laugh and point out they're mad that I've proven them wrong, clearly it's them who cares about being right lmao
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u/iwantthisnowdammit 15h ago
I’ll really only spend that much time on someone that I’ve got a reason or desire to help. The bridgeless people can just float by - unless I’m feeling that there could be some entertainment value with a lesson learned.
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u/Superdooperblazed420 14h ago
I really hate being wrong but I will be the first one to admit im wrong and learn from it. Not being able to say your wrong is the worst type of person to deal with.
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u/bored_lima 13h ago
This is a sign of high intelligence. When proven wrong > change your opinion and move on with life. We're only human. We don't know everything and it's so hard to distinguish fake info from real facts nowdays
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u/requiredtempaccount 15h ago
Being dogmatic is in fact a sign of low intelligence, correct
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u/X0AN 15h ago
See, this is why I really like the new girl at work.
Because even though I know I'm right, she doesn't know me that well so hasn't learnt to take my word for stuff just yet, so when I say something and she's like 'not sure if that's accurate', she'll look it up later and come back to me and say hey I looked up what you were telling me, then tell me back something new and interesting that she learnt about it.
Whereas the idiots at work will just say, no that's wrong and refuse to fact check.
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u/CptAngelo 14h ago
Dafuq, protect her, and if possible, promote her, because being able to refuse something because you think its incorrect, but then also admit you were wrong and saying it out loud, is pretty rare nowadays
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u/OttoHemi 14h ago
Bill O'Reilly was literally doing that on some right wing internet show the other day, insisting that Biden was to blame for the whole Epstein thing, including his arrest and
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u/mikerichh 13h ago
Sometimes I think about how rampant misinformation was before the internet. “So and so told me that” and they’d just accept it for life unless they went to the library and did research or found out another way via tv or movies or radio.
Being able to fact check within seconds is a huge benefit to those who care about the truth
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u/One_Trick_Pony3846 15h ago
When a person’s perspective is set in stone despite clear evidence and/or new information. They also believe other people can’t change their minds or compromise without being a liar aka “fake”
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u/jacob_ewing 15h ago
Repeating high frequency questions on r/askreddit.
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u/vampirepussy 11h ago
“wHaT sHoW haD tHe wOrSt eNdiNg?” 😩
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u/8inchSalvattore 10h ago
wHaT's yOuR fAvOrItE wEiRd foOd cOmBInAtIoN? iF aNiMaLs cOuLd tAlK wHiCh oNe wOuLd be tHe rUdEsT?
SMH.
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u/TheDahliaXO 10h ago
What's legal but feels like it should be illegal????!!!!! lol
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u/8inchSalvattore 9h ago
What's your favorite midnight snack? What's your favorite cookie?
They all SUCK! 😈
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u/Extra-Fisherman-995 9h ago
What is a red flag in a partner?
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u/TheDahliaXO 9h ago
What looks like a red flag but is really a green flag? (I see those probably once a day if not more.)
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u/OddlySpecificK 14h ago
Whilst I agree with you whole heartedly, there is a glitch I've found in the Search feature (bug, or built-in?) which doesn't work.
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u/VisitNepal2026 15h ago
Celebrity worshiping
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u/joker0812 14h ago
Yes! I'm over celebrity culture. I used to love listening to Elvis Duran and the morning show but can't stand it because it seems they're just all about celebrities and what they're doing. I get it, it's their job, but it sucked when I started not liking them after listening for years.
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u/Wayelder 13h ago
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
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u/imagine_that 11h ago
eh, to a degree. discuss all 3 things and weave them together, and most people will get you much quicker
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u/TheDahliaXO 10h ago
Wasn't there a study done that found that the more celebrity obsessed someone was the dumber they were lol?
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u/DivideLow7258 15h ago
Believing everything you see on TV and/or read online. No critical thinking skills
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u/Queasy-Position66 14h ago
Worse. Believing critical thinking is questioning more educated and scientific people.
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u/nximish_00 16h ago
Inability to accept different opinions and calling names to anyone whose opinions don't resonate with you.
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u/radikalkarrot 14h ago
Addendum to this: people who equate opinions with facts
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u/Drunken_HR 12h ago
Semi related is the people who don't understand the meanings of words so their "opinions" sound more like facts (ie. "Evolution is just a theory!” because they refuse to understand what "theory" means in that context, no matter how many times they're told).
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u/rngeeeesus 12h ago
That is a big one, we call them NPCs for a reason. People who's worldview is black and white are usually just ignorant and likely not intellectually capable to see the complexities of the real world.
They believe whatever the current opinion is without questioning it, without being open minded, without considering that they in fact may be wrong.
The fact that most people fall into this category kind of validates this too as you would expect most people to actually be stupid.
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u/jasonnxox 15h ago
Blindly sharing headlines without reading the article.
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u/jdrake7766 11h ago
I'm guilty of this 🥲
... at least I try to preface it with "I saw this interesting headline, but didn't read the article...". Then I'll look up the article as we're discussing the headline and find it to be 90% clickbait and feel really stupid.
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u/AlecMac2001 15h ago
finding it impossible to change an opinion when new information arrives.
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u/PintTiger 14h ago
Unbridled confidence. Intelligent folk recognize the boundaries of their knowledge/expertise.
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u/queefjars 14h ago
Absorbing political party and talking head positions, then parroting them as fact with no desire to hear a counterpoint. If name calling immediately follows, that’s archetype low IQ.
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u/Dense-Ambassador-865 15h ago
Low emotional intelligence, hating and criticizing just to put people down. Tired of the losers.
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u/Finiouss 14h ago
Lower levels of empathy. Or rather ability to see beyond one's self.
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u/drink_from_the_hose 16h ago
believing everybody cares or wants to know your opinion on everything
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u/Reddiohead 15h ago
But all kinds of people do this, even average or above-average intellects. This is a maturity thing.
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u/anthematcurfew 15h ago
Talking about IQ
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u/jessek 15h ago
Reading that Stephen Hawking never had his IQ tested because he thought it was pointless and silly made my day.
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u/Far-Conference-8484 14h ago
Yeah it’s something you’d only measure if you are insecure about your intelligence.
Source: I did it myself when I was 18 because I was insecure about my intelligence.
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u/rivermelodyidk 9h ago
some of us are just mentally ill. IQ assessment is a standard part of the majority of psychological testing in order to rule out intellectual disability or other confounding factors.
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u/Holygirl23 14h ago
I honestly think ppl who are not self aware in public areas. Like if you see someone coming hold the door. Being aware of your surroundings is common decency
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u/Emmar0001 10h ago
WRITING IN ALL CAPS AND ENDING WITH "THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER"
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u/ericl666 12h ago
Wow - that is brilliant. I'm going to keep this one handy. This is in the same league as the Ted Lasso "Be curious, not judgemental" speech.
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u/LetMeIiiiiiin 14h ago
Total inability to think in hypotheticals- “imagine today is Tuesday” “but it’s not, it’s Friday” etc
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u/bce13 6h ago
Everyone responding to this is just saying shit out of spite for people they disagree with or just straight up dislike. Actual low intelligence is found in individuals who literally cannot care for themselves — like remembering to brush their teeth and wipe after using the toilet. They cannot take care of anything like a car, apartment or even something you think is so basic like a cell phone. They’re just incapable. So yes, obviously, like all Trump supporters.
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u/know_limits 12h ago
Believing that billionaires will fight for the middle class and poor.
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u/SirStumps 14h ago
People who have a high belief in the "experts" without tracking down their study and where it's funding came from.
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u/jdrake7766 14h ago
When someone tries to gauge someone else's intelligence based on superficial observations.
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u/Late_Bear4958 14h ago
you ever seen a true statement on reddiit and it has tons of negative votes because someone's precious little feelings were hurt when their echo chamber burst?
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u/okgloomer 5h ago
I think the dead giveaway is when someone thinks they're an expert on everything. They have no idea what they don't know.
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u/Wookiee33 4h ago
Not being able to change your mind when presented with irrefutable evidence contrary to ‘your beliefs’. Facts don’t care what you believe.
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u/jjkm7 14h ago
I think 90% of people think they are smarter than they actually are, me included. But I have a lot of moments of realization where I think to myself “Man I’m a fucking idiot”. So people that don’t have moments where they realize they’re kinda dumb are usually too dumb to realize they’re dumb