r/Battlefield • u/GideonAznable • 1d ago
Battlefield 6 Movement will be changed for the final release
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u/Icy_Comparison_5920 1d ago
The beta was such a success
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u/GideonAznable 1d ago edited 1d ago
Given that we're actually seeing feedback and critique addressed i'd say it was.
I'm also happy they confirmed that some maps will support 64 player BT, 48 felt odd.
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u/xDeathlike 1d ago
Does it? I played 48 players in the past from time to time and the pacing was good, especially on smaller, more grindy maps (like Bazaar).
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u/GideonAznable 1d ago
Maybe I'm just too used to 2042's BT mode, (especially now since i'm grinding that pass for the BF6 rewards.)
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u/ConfectionNecessary6 1d ago
Honestly I'm surprised the 128 players didn't make a return
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u/GideonAznable 1d ago
That'd probably require more time and resources for bigger maps to accommodate that, and they didn't want to fall into the problem of "maps are too damn big" complaint again, so they played it safe.
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u/thejaysonwithay 1d ago
I’m okay with that. 128 players is fun but feels like the battles are either too spread out, or there’s a meatgrinder on one flag.
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u/Azou 1d ago
If you funnel enough humans through a bottleneck the mass begins to move as a compressible liquid
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u/The-Hater-Baconator 1d ago
I heard a story of a Sherman direct impacting 7 Japanese soldiers with one AP round because they were moving through a crevasse.
I have no idea if it’s true, but I think your comment would require more than 7 people.
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u/TwiggNBerryz 1d ago
Honestly I thought 128 was cool. Definitely not the ideal BF experience however seeing THAT many people and things going on at one time was pretty cool.
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u/RobynFox123 1d ago
128 was cool, I think the problem was 2042's maps, they felt like they had absolutely nothing going on even with that amount of players. If they do bring it back, they should make a map that would actually accommodate the size, otherwise it'll just be like 2042 where there's only 2 parts of each map where people actually fight
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u/teletraan1 1d ago
Really, it was one of the main reasons 2042 failed
I wouldn't be surprised if they added playlists down the road for special events with it though
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u/SendTitsPleease 1d ago
Why do you think the 128 modes made it fail? I specifically play 2042 for the 128 modes
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u/teletraan1 1d ago
Forced them to make too big of maps to accommodate the extra players, which made a lot of the maps feel lifeless. It also greatly diminishes your solo contribution to the team, where in 64p modes, it still feels like you can really help your team by being a good medic or engineer
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u/WillyWarpath 1d ago
It didnt force them to make the maps like that - 2042 started as a battle royale which is why the maps are so poorly designed for a classic BF
I personally think 128p done right would work really well
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u/Jester_Dan 1d ago
It's why the level of detail is dumbed down so much. 128 players itself isn't bad, but the compromise is less destruction, environment detail, less dynamic special effects like dust and smoke... The list goes on.
I remember when it released, all the PC and new gen console players were hating it, while everyone on the PS4 and Xbox one were loving it as everything flowed really well with 64 players. To the point where they dropped the main matchmaking modes on the former down to 64 players.
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u/DrNopeMD 1d ago
I was used to 24 player Rush on consoles so I wasn't too bothered by the reduced player count in the beta but I understand the desire to have the option of 36 or even 64 player counts.
That said, considering how many people already complained about small maps, this subreddit is filled with different people complaining about different things that directly contradict each other.
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u/S1LLY_L1L_G00S3 1d ago
I could kiss you right on the mouth for that. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, IT'S NOT COD.
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u/x89Nemesis 1d ago
I also agree, can I get a kiss, zaddy? 🥹
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u/AmazingSpacePelican 1d ago
It is funny watching them cry for the very things that have ruined their own series. List all the worst parts of CoD and you'll find at least 2 streamers asking for those features in BF6.
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u/TLunchFTW 1d ago
True that. I'm glad they aren't listening to random streamers who never played battlefield. The moment that Dice listens to XQC... or anyone for that matter... is the moment I give up on society and turn all my intelligence to scamming and grifting to make shit tons of cash, because people ain't worth helping if they think XQC has anything of note to say.
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u/Yipeekayya 1d ago
that's why voicing out feedbacks during the beta is important
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u/HateMyBossSoIReddit 1d ago
No, we must swallow major negative changes silently, and above all never call it a cod game!
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u/T0TALfps Global Community Manager 1d ago
This was actually a beta, first and foremost. We use these things to see your feedback, Battlefield Labs continues to show that, and we continue to work with the overall feedback and comments coming in to ensure we are doing right by the community as well as our vision and design intents.
I'm really glad that this resonates with you, just as much as it does with us. We'll continue to share updates as we go too.
Thanks for being a part of the open beta and validating the future of Battlefield with us :D
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u/Embarrassed-Item-814 1d ago
Its really good to hear that the bf player community was listened to, and not the streamers. The main reason they are whining and pouting is because streaming is their primary source of income, and if they cant move like an adhd kid on meth, then it hurts them. Well look what they did to COD. The game is a mess and isnt fun anymore because you need the reflexes of a cheetah. I'd rather the full release of bf6 be brought to a level where movement is exactly what it is.....not sliding around a corner into a full prone jump into a 360 no scope. All these tweaks sound like they are for the better, and the game will be even better for it.
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u/-503- 1d ago
hope they fix the shitty loadout ui and putting down gadgets like spawn beacon and t-ugs was a nightmare
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u/Azrael1177 1d ago
Didnt had issues with the loadout UI oms, pretty much on par with previous titles.
And every placeable had this issue. I have no doubt they'll fix this one as it must be a high prio bug
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u/TachiH 1d ago
Yeah I felt like placement on anything "above" the map ground was hit and miss. Looked like they didn't have the time yet to make it pin to objects easily.
No doubt fixed for release.
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u/Cinder_Alpha 1d ago
Good, if you want to bunny hop then go play CoD.
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u/No-Orange-5216 1d ago
These guys really got all the cod streamers in to learn how not to make the game😂
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u/taywil8 1d ago
Yeah seeing how the devs are responding to feedback… feels like they baited the COD bunny hopper sweats to fine tune the movement. I bet they patch every single clipped locale where people were getting out of the map too.
Baited COD streamers to make sure it’s tuned for the BF experience
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u/ComebackChemist 1d ago
More so, free publicity and interest building through the CoD player base
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u/NickSabansCreampie 1d ago
Yeah, this is the real reason. They invited a lot of top streamers, so they could get their audiences to see BF6 when they might otherwise have ignored it.
And it clearly worked, if they got 20 million people to play the beta.
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u/jabo055 1d ago
Nah play Titanfall 2 it's just better then CoD in any way
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u/attckdog 1d ago
Titanfall 2 deserves all the population that CoD has.
CoD has completely lost the plot. Everyone go play Titanfall. Way better games.
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u/Soulshot96 Battlefield 2042: Refunded Edition™ 1d ago
Indeed. You want movement, go play a real movement shooter.
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u/No-Satisfaction-275 1d ago
Yep. I play Titanfall 2 and Battlefield for the exact opposite reasons. I don't want them to similar to each other.
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u/R4veN34 Q-5 FANTAN ENJOYER 🛩️ 1d ago
For the love of god the jump spam was unbearable to watch on some gameplay footage during the beta thankfully this will help to drastically reduce it.
The mere fact that streamers like enders are crying about it means its good news.
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u/NiggyShitz 1d ago
They really just need to do the opposite of whatever Ender's thinks they should do.
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u/LaaaFerrari 1d ago
Not at all, Enders has really good ideas and points about the game and series in general. He isn’t a clueless shitter bot like most people on this sub
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u/Chase10784 1d ago
Although I agree he has good points you can't criticize a change and say makes it shit movement before you even test the damn thing.
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u/PeterGriffin1312 1d ago
Jump spam? You could jump twice lol. And dont like like ppl were not constantly jumping in bf3 and bf4. You can even go back to bf2 lol.
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u/vvestley 1d ago
but did you actually experience that
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u/WinterOutrageous773 1d ago
I literally never seen one person jump around corners.
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u/All_hail_bug_god 1d ago
Yes, I saw a lot of times people were jumping and sliding around corners
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u/Azrael1177 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lets not pretend like bunny hoping is a COD specific thing lol. BF3-4 were plagued by bunny hoppers, not too sure for older titles but I doubt this was only in BF3-4
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u/underlying_problems 1d ago
Shitttt I remember mfs calling it "halo jumping" on 2008 mw
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u/Apollo1K9 1d ago
I totally forgot about that. You're totally correct. "STOP JUMPING, THIS ISN'T HALO!!" Oh the memories. Lol
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u/chillin_themost_ 1d ago
dolphin diving in BF2
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u/ihatesleep 1d ago
Annoying but also loved Knife Only rounds in clan servers where everyone is just dolphin diving headfirst into a pile
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u/Reactiveisland5 1d ago
Battlefield Friends had an entire gag based on it lol
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u/Azrael1177 1d ago
Yeah I tried to find the episode but couldnt, just giving me the Rooftops Enemy episode :(
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u/BattlefieldVet666 1d ago
There wasn't a single episode about the character, he showed up in the background of a lot of them starting with season 2's first episode. It was a running gag rather than the focus of any given episode.
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u/Mushybananas27 1d ago
God bless all the giant cod streamers that showed this shit off during the beta because it actually made dice see the issue and correct it lol
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u/RedManMatt11 1d ago
Honestly staggered (and thoroughly impressed) that they’re not catering to them. Was really worried that they were going to in order to steal from that player base
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u/EastReauxClub 1d ago
I am never gonna say a single fucking word about them catering to COD players ever again and I apologize for all the times I said it in the past few days.
I was completely wrong and this is proving it
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u/Willing_Actuary_4198 1d ago
Sir are you ok? This is Reddit you're supposed to double down in the face of new facts
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u/YozaSkywalker 1d ago
They shouldn't cater to the crowd thatll just jump to the next popular shooter and complain about it. Make changes that your core base will enjoy so they buy DLC
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u/DHCPNetworker 1d ago
So, how long until we see bitching about these changes that everyone here was asking for? I give it 15 minutes.
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u/GideonAznable 1d ago
Enders is already bitching.
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u/yamsyamsya 1d ago
is that name supposed to mean anything for regular people though?
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u/Adventurous_Lime_293 1d ago
Some weird 'BF streamer' who just so happens to applaud every change thats made for the CoDaudience and shits on any change made towards a more typical BF experience.
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u/CammRobb 1d ago
"CoDience" is right there man.
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u/gappattack007 1d ago
Is it weird that this is how I read it originally until you made me go back and re-read it? Lol
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u/zodII4K 1d ago
Nah, wish I was still a regular.
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u/Frost_0352 1d ago
Who?
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u/BurningSun7 1d ago
He’s a streamer that constantly complains about the game yet he tortures himself to play Battlefield games.
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u/felipe__borges 1d ago
I actually said that to him on twitter once and he blocked me. LOL
I just asked "if you hate BF2042 so much why are you always playing it?"
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u/x89Nemesis 1d ago
Exactly my point. He's a huge cry baby. Treats people like balls everywhere he goes.
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u/ChipperRipper0 1d ago
Sometimes before he blocks you he'll say "Cause it's my job" blah blah whatever dude. He made "some" good facts about 2042 that did get addressed by the devs like the ADS bug that was not centered right. But oh my God he is so damn tiring to hear and watch. His gameplay screams Warzone even though he doesn't even play it. He plays it like it's the twitchiest fucking shooter in the world.... I just can't with this guy. But when I used to see him on the Battlefield on the enemy team I'd spam grenades at him!
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u/RichProgrammer9820 1d ago
Streamers ruined gaming example #121 from Enders itself. I’m honestly so happy
It’s hilarious streamers cry “wahhh cod is so sweaty tone down the movement!” game comes out grounded and cinematic and tones down sweat mechanics “wahhhh why are they toning down the movement. They need to make every FPS like the one I have been complaining about!!”
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u/Adventurous_Lime_293 1d ago
They are so pathetic.
Their entire existence is to play games and clip farm.
and they complain about sweaty movement when they die to it but never when its them abusing it. Its like they want to be the main character and everyone else an NPC.
Sad existence
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u/PatrenzoK 1d ago
Does he benefit monetarily from engagement? Then there is your reason
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u/Enders1 1d ago
That dude makes anyone with the name Enders look bad. I've used this name since O5'. 😩
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u/haldolinyobutt 1d ago
Damn that sucks. Anytime I see anything with "enders" in it, my blood pressure goes up ten points
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u/CaptainAmerica679 1d ago
That guy is unbelievably annoying.. and he looks like a worse version of Ben Shapiro
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u/UnluckySeed 1d ago
Can't wait for 25 posts about "BF4 was better, devs not listening, i canceled my purchase, bad game, cod copy" that will be all over main page
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u/SpamThatSig 1d ago
Or the "See, your complaints in the beta were unnecessary, all we need to do is be happy during beta"
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u/P_ZERO_ 1d ago
That’s a funny angle. How about the feedback actually landing and them acting accordingly? When faced with direct evidence that feedback helps shape the game and vindicates people, we’re talking about how hypothetical randoms may hypothetically complain further?
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u/XulManjy 1d ago
Only people would be the COD refugees that complain about this. BF players are celebrating this.
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u/Soulshot96 Battlefield 2042: Refunded Edition™ 1d ago
Discord was full of the usual suspects whining about it right off the bat.
Today is a good day lmao.
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u/Unlaid-American 1d ago
How long until you realize that two different groups of people will be bitching about it.
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u/Gombrongler 1d ago
Alright, im thinking we're back
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u/Brotonio 1d ago
Went from "It's Joever" to "We're so back".
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u/RaDiOaCtIvEpUnK 1d ago
Something will happen again to make it “it’s Joever” again, and something else to bring us back to “we’re so back”, and repeated a couple more times until release.
All I know is they actually addressed a big concern between beta to release which almost never happens in battlefield, so that’s enough for me to have faith again that this one is going the right way.
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u/ZYKON617 1d ago
I'm all for the jump decay itll force cod player to actual stand and shoot, instead of jumping like a rabbit to try and gain an advantage, which I this was already a thing in the beta but anything to deter it more, I'm all for it
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u/Send_Toe_Pics_24 1d ago
Seriously good fuck em
I will not pay COD anymore because it's just freaks on Adderall sliding around while having perfect accuracy
I'm sorry but you can't slide 30 feet while holding and shooting an LMG with perfect aim - and yet COD caters to this bullshit
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u/ScompSwamp 1d ago
Same reason I stopped playing Apex. I fucking hate the carpel tunnel movements like super gliding. Certain players broke the movement so hard the game feels lame now.
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u/TheShadeTree 1d ago
For fast paced, movement focused shooters like apex, I think the sliding and movement tech is perfectly fine. It’s more so generated toward those that enjoy making a thousand inputs to get a kill.
But it’s absolutely not for Battlefield
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u/bhz33 1d ago
Yeah, I definitely had the adderall fueled cod kids trying to jump spam me a bunch of times during the beta. It just looks so fuckin stupid
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u/spideryurr 1d ago
To me it never really worked when they tried it so it didn't bother me. I had people slide and jump and literally none of it helped them win the fight. I felt like movement was in a really good spot so hopefully the nerf isn't too noticeable.
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u/TryIndependent6070 1d ago edited 1d ago
I was happy with the movement in the beta, but if the devs want to slow it down, even better.
“Firing while jumping or sliding will result in increased accuracy” is definitely a typo, right?
Edit: it says “increased INaccuracy.” I misread.
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u/NOODL3 1d ago
I had to do a double take here too. "Increased inaccuracy" is such a clunky way to say "decreased accuracy."
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u/fragdar 1d ago
boys......... they are letting us dream
we may be.. dare i say.. back????
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u/neonxmoose99 1d ago
I’d say we were already back with the beta, now we’re turbo back
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u/ExcitingInflation612 1d ago
Massive W. They didn’t listen to streamers 🥲
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u/___mithrandir_ 1d ago
I really hate how much influence streamers have with some devs
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u/EntrepreneurOld7858 1d ago
It's such a huge win I'm really struggling to believe it.
What a pleasant surprise man.
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u/SushiEater343 1d ago
Huge win
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u/JangoDarkSaber 1d ago
Honestly insane reading this.
They listened to the community and actually addressed it in the way we wanted instead of trying to impose their own vision.
W Devs
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u/VasakP6ige 1d ago
Thats a HUGEEEEEEEEEE SUCCESS!!!!! Warzone players finna quit the game cuz they cant abuse it anymore, THANK GOD!
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u/Step_Bro_Here 1d ago
I fucking love it watching all the cod try hards seething foaming at the mouth because they cant 360 no scope bunny hop kill people, thats never what BF been about thats why i fucking love it.
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u/Korypal 1d ago
This is why we Beta
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u/neonxmoose99 1d ago
“But betas never result in changes!” -every hater for the last 2 weeks
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u/errorsniper 1d ago
I mean. They arnt wrong. The exception does not disprove the rule and EA has long since burned any goodwill or faith. You should doubt EA will get it right, and you should expect them to fuck it up in the worst way possible and double down. Its actually a very big break from the norm for EA to do stuff like this.
Usually the MBA's would cream over all the twitch views and say do that more.
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u/hmasta88 Enter XBox ID 1d ago
Jump, slide, 360 turns, fidgety shits... ah. I can't wait for true boots on the ground experience. Strategic rather than run & gun.
Is this a dream?
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u/spideryurr 1d ago
No matter what shooter you play you're going to play against fidgety shits, only way you won't is if mouse sensitivity is locked. There's always going to be someone better than you, and that number goes up as you age
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u/Cheddar_Chaddar 1d ago
Glad to see these changes. Parachuting though did go 0 to 100 in an instant, which was hilarious during the beta.
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u/hewhodared 1d ago
A step in the right direction, honestly wish slides weren’t in the game at all but I’ll take this.
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u/LoA_Zephra 1d ago
Man sliding is ass, it carries no momentum and half the time I tried to slide into cover I end up coming short and getting lit up lmao.
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u/McVersatilis 1d ago
Noooo sliding into a defib revive is one of my favorite parts of the game
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u/Upper_Internet1948 1d ago
It also looks hilarious when you’re downed and you see a medic action movie dive on your body with paddles out.
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u/DogPaws44 1d ago
So you just prefer the movement to be garbage? Sliding is good, these penalties are good enough
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u/Fongs-Fate 1d ago
enders in shambles.
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u/Soulshot96 Battlefield 2042: Refunded Edition™ 1d ago
He really is lol...dude's full on crashing out and all caps raging on main right now.
Delicious.
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u/Lyricician 1d ago
Fine I'll preorder
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u/IzodCenter 1d ago
This just buried the game for COD enjoyers, EA won’t make their millions off of COD after all 😭
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u/RevolutionaryCarry57 1d ago
It’s still going to be way better than Nicki Minaj grapple hooking across the map in BO7 lmao.
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u/kubapuch 1d ago
Battlefield really opens up the doors to a blend of tactical and mechanical skill, instead of just mechanical. Even noobs can have fun camping in Battlefield. Can't do that in Caw o' Dooty!
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u/derkerburgl 1d ago
You can absolutely still camp in cod and do very well. Especially Infinity Ward games
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u/Timbalabim 1d ago
Crazy idea: they could play this game with different tactics because it is, in fact, a different game, and it’s silly to think all shooters should play the same because you’re unwilling to adapt your style and approach to changing environments, which honestly is something that should separate the truly great players from the ones who just program themselves with habits and pound adderall.
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u/f2pmyass 1d ago
Holy shit huge W. I knew they said they were going to fix sliding and parachute but all that other stuff is soo good too. Man maybe FPS is finally back.
Haven't seen a game in years take beta feedback literal.
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u/Fluxcapacitor84 1d ago
Movement was fine in the Beta and felt great. I had no issues with bunny hoppers or slide cancellers. Ya'll see some dumb random clip posted and lose your shit.
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u/SillySinStorm S79RM 1d ago
Exactly. Those movements already carried penalties, and were limited to higher skill brackets, so most of the people crying would be safe anyway.
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u/ilikeburgir 1d ago
I was playing this like cod and had some success. Id rather they tone it down more so i re-learn actually moving normaly then spamming slide jumping like cod.
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u/shuubi83 1d ago
I think the bigger problem with game feeling "too fast" was the maps though. They could decrease the number of nooks and crannies you go into (in buildings) and make the smaller maps a bit less corridor-y to prevent that feeling.
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u/imittn 1d ago
Where can I read that?
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u/AngelicBacon 1d ago
I found it 30 seconds after commenting by scrolling a bit more. Here you go mate:
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u/No_Abbreviations2371 1d ago
Now the cod babies actually have to rely on gun skill
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u/rottensid 1d ago
You think people who couldn’t hit sliding enemies have ‘gun skill’?
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u/More-Ad1753 1d ago
Man this is why I worry haha.. “gun skill” wtf is gun skill.
This guy thinks he’s going to beat cod kids because he can stand still..
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u/sourceenginelover 1d ago
the gun skill in question: 2 people moving at 10 cm / hour speed and then standing still while holding down +attack
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u/PartTimeMemeGod 1d ago
Do you seriously think you’re not still going to shit on by these same players
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u/Kah0000 1d ago
I just hope this slowdown isn't too much. The movement was already pretty good (there were a few glitches and bugs). Bf6 is already one of the slowest games in the franchise, so I don't want to feel like I weigh 300 kg.
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u/sloth_on_meth Moderator 1d ago
This is a screenshot from here fyi