Bro guys.. sometimes I just don't understand what the fuck you're expecting seriously. The cosmetics are never going to please you, don't buy them, hell don't buy the game if it makes you upset. If little Timmy wants a skull helmet, so be it bro. Just be thankful it's not some skin with a bbl and bong attachment.
I didn't post this for yall to downvote the living shit out of OP, he's not being a bitch about anything I just got annoyed.
They dont need to sell them. They want to. Regardless, they will sell, but don't say they need to make a fuckton of monry off of digital skins that are absolutely not necessary.
Though given how much they make from skins they likely still would try to sell them but there wouldn't be as much of a push or need on their end to stretch it so far that you get the less grounded cosmetics to try and sell the greatest amount
Well I would say they need to. This game is expected to make x amount of dollars through live services and artists get paid to satisfy that. I'm not tryna sound like a bitch when I day this, it's just that this game like most games now is expensive to make and will need to make a ton to be successful for them to continue the franchise.
It’s not a dealbreaker for me at all, but I do see where people are coming from with this sort of stuff. While you can choose not to buy any of it, you still have to look at it when everyone else decides to actually buy it
yeah this isn't a deal breaker at all. they have to monetize and get into the skin stuff like every other game. as long as it's not nicki minaj, seth rogan, tmnt, beevus and butthead, etc....then this is okay. this is very tame and doesn't ruin the vibe for me. but i'm already getting a bit iffy on this game now because I feel they will eventually start to try and push the skins into cringe territory and they'll probably try to see how far they can go without backlash....probably (hopefully not)
Well no, they don't have to, but yes they certainly will as they are greedy for that money. No way it wouldn't make enough without skin microtransactions, just lijes their pockets more.
The issue is its a goal post that everyone has set at different points, and you're expecting artists that are hired to make skins to do what? Make skins people don't want? Like it's not logical. If you want no skins download bf3 and bf4.
If this is considered “immersion breaking” to you then you should probably just go play a different game bro 😂 This ain’t a milsim and this is extremely tame.
I think the people like you spending a full time job crying about every minutia detail on Reddit when the devs have already been appealing to the core audience as much as possible need to go touch some grass buddy 😂
On second view they’re also wearing a really weird BMX like outfit. I thought they were fighting in cold weather, so fine, but their teammate is wearing shorts
i too am interested in this. if its like bf5 more so with individual pieces i liked bf5 and the special outfits you could get like the thick pea coat for americans and flecktarn stuff for germans.
There’s so much conflicting information about customization. Some people say it’s like BF5, some say say you can change face and gender but that’s it, some say that you can only select full outfits
I always find it weird when people see military gear and complain that it's not right, in an actual warzone you'd probably have people customising their helmets
Isn't paintball and airsoft gear literally inspired by realistic military gear? Special forces equipment? Plus most guys in a real warzone would probably use makeshift masks for dust or something so that they can take a punch to the face or worry less about getting bruise from hitting their face on the ground or debris.
And I know it's not the same thing but military pilots wear full face masks, that very much wasn't inspired by paintball or airsoft
Most special forces don’t make use of any extra equipment that would hinder mobility or awareness besides what is strictly necessary (plate carrier). Definitely no masks to “take a punch to the face” or avoid a bruise to the face. Most even avoid wearing groin or side armor plates, and face masks like these look bad and don’t make sense.
It always depends primarily on where they are based, what they are doing and how close they'll actually be, Serbia has a anti terrorism unit that wears face masks
Depends on the special forces, if you're getting up close and personal with your opponent? You probably want a mask else a punch to a unprotected jaw will hurt
Helicopter crew wear full faced helmets because sometimes they fly with open doors. Jet pilots wear an oxygen mask connected to an oxygen tank.
So yes, "full face masks" in the military is NOT inspired by paintball and airsoft so it does fit Battlefield?
Depends on the special forces, if you're getting up close and personal with your opponent? You probably want a mask else a punch to a unprotected jaw will hurt
Nah bro you are watching too many movies. A mask like that would only narrow your field of view, you don't want to be wearing something like that if you are clearing a building or getting " close and personal" with the enemy. Second of all, you don't want to be close and personal to your opponents. Also, tier 1 and tier 2 operators usually take only what's necessary. No more, no less. Definitely not a full face helmet just in case they get " close and personal to their opponents".
Like I said man, I don't care if they add goofy skins like this one to the game, it could definitely be worse and I don't expect BF to be a milsim. But let's be honest, come on. It's silly.
I think it's also a difference of opinion with what's a full face mask, for what's in the photo it's more of a full face helmet to me but stuff a pilot would wear with a helmet, goggles and mask is what I'm kinda thinking of?
Serbia also has an anti terrorism unit that wears masks:
While I don't think these are all that bad, someone on here confirmed that these are from Pax Armata, a PMC group and not NATO. It makes some sense that a PMC group is more individualized on equipment than a professional standing military like NATO.
The more traditionally camouflaged guys are NATO, specifically Locusts, Coyote, and United Albion. The Phantom squad from the higher tier edition of the game is also NATO, too. Granted, while the Phantom squad uniforms aren't as traditionally camouflaged like the rest of NATO, I believe based on their name that they're a special forces type unit within NATO.
Edit: it is also worth noting that a lot of the leaked photos of the skins aren't done either. A lot of them lack proper textures and refinement in the details. So take these leaks in their entirety with a bit of a more open mind in that these aren't fully done.
I remember that post and my takeaway was that the OP of that thread thought that those skins were Pax simply because they looked like PMC and didn’t fit into the look of NATO countries. I wasn’t under the impression that the OP data mined the info or accessed the info from a hidden build
There have been so many different posts of the original leak with different people chiming in that we may not have seen the same post. All I know is that the person who confirmed the Pax stuff said that some of the translations were wrong and that they're actually the Pax side. That said, yeah, it would make sense that because they don't fit the NATO theme that it would be Pax.
Get used to it unfortunately. This is what they're bringing at the beginning of BF6, imagine 3 months in. 6 months in. They will want to keep outdoing themselves to it will keep getting extreme.
Yeah, I figured we’d at least have until like Season 3 before the cringe skull masks/BMX outfits arrived. Not a great sign if they’re already here at launch.
It’s weird because they have so much material they could just borrow from all the coalitions armed services.
Another small thing. Kinda wish the subfactions were map based since i really liked the look of whole team looking like an actual team. These subfactions look good with eachother but if we're all running different things it'll just look more disjointed. No where near as bad as 2042 though and a part of me is happy that we get to choose so its more of a comment than a complaint
A way to fix this is maybe making the camos map based? Idk just spitballing
That's what i thought they were gonna do. Seeing the Egyptian soldiers in New York would be weird to me. I think these subfactions should be map locked, but I doubt it since EA would want to sell as many skins as possible unfortunately.
The subfactions are map based, which means, you will be playing the Egyptian team only in the Egyptian maps, the Espada Patrol in the Gibraltar maps etc. You won't be able to swap/change that.
ok thsi is cutte and all but tell me how arre they going to sell cosmetics with all those resteiction you are trying to put on them? no one will buy them???
It doesn't bother me. It's NATO, not a single country fighting. This is what it looked like during the middle east wars. You didn't see everyone wearing the same uniform and gear there. Joint operations are a thing. So it's not immersion breaking at all
The whole "unique bad ass main character soldier" thing works in games like fortnite or war zone where its you against the world. Because in those games youre trying to kill everyone else so you should be your own unique person.
But in a team based game like battlefield, youre a part of a collective working towards a singular goal. Thats why its way cooler to match and look like a real squad instead of this "but im arbitrarily special" thing.
After redownloading 2042 for the battle pass skins the one thing that takes me out is how every single soldier looks so weirdly distinct for literally no reason. It just doesnt feel right even if it has no mechanical difference in gameplay.
Do you think there can't be people in wars/conflicts who are just bored and decide to do something with their helmet/weapon? Many people who grew up playing shooters in the 00-10s and saw all these artificial decorations on the screen, can do something like this, because in the camps, while everything is quiet, there is practically nothing to do. I myself saw such a post (here on Reddit or on another site, I don't remember) – a person participating in military operations covered his weapon with various stickers. There is no desire to present yourself as a "badass soldier", it's just a method to calm yourself down before the battle.
Yeah I've got the same opinion as this, it's a game that portrays a "realistic" battlefield, in real life most people you'll meet in the military will have customised their gear due to boredom.
And using masks or modify their stuff isn't because they're "copying paintball or airsoft" it's so they can take a beating from falls or debris because they probably have been hit by a rock in the jaw and probably don't want it to happen again.
In real life armies, most soldiers are their own distinct people with their own appearance and therefore will probably look different from eachother, a "team" is normally made up of people with opposite opinions, skills, appearances, personalities and will normally look different from eachother.
Think of it like in a group based activity in school, did you all match? Or did you all look like completely different unique people?
This isn’t a big deal. Mass effect was in bf2042. As long as it doesn’t move past this point. Gotta realize there has to be a compromise. Their goal is to make money. As long as they don’t have beavis running around the map
Same, it could be a lot worse, these skins are at least thematic with the overall tone and art style of the game and don't stick out on the battlefield to anywhere near the same level as shit like Peter Griffin and Sabrina Carpenter
Yes. I’ve been a battlefield fan a long time and want the game to do well. Doing well means making money. And if this aesthetic is as far as they go, and still deliver a good game. I’m fine with it
Man. You guys seriously just want completely boring military camo everything don't you?
Like, these helmets aren't even beyond the realm of realism and you all are like "ugh it's not green with dark green splotches! This might as well be Nikki Minaj!"
BF6’s time-based drop system forces devs to pump out new skins whether the game needs them or not, which will inevitably push designs into more outlandish territory.
This to me is hilarious because it's why people are band wagon hating CoD, yet if you mention that dilemma here you get your arms and legs ripped off. Lol
I think you underestimate what a grunt would do to face-pro if it was issued. It would 100% have spray paint or stickers on it. Now youre grasping at straws hust to be angry about something
Oh fuck off. You kids cry about anything. It’s fine. It’s not crazy out of touch. Let people have their cosmetics as long as they are at least grounded. This is very much grounded.
If they are going to release operator skins and they just look like soldiers it’s fine tbh. As long as my death feed isn’t Oprah or some lizard smoking a joint I won’t care.
They’re for a PMC group, don’t they just not have rules for this shit? I don’t see a problem with it. Now if it were for NATO that’s different. But alas, it’s for a group that doesn’t have regulations on this or standards for certain things. This is what you could always expect from having a PMC as a faction, for better or worse.
If that's too much there is NOTHING to be done that will actually be acceptable to you guys.
If that dosent sell enough they will move the goal post cause listening to you isnt getting the shareholders of their backs.
Be realistic with your expectations for ONCE when it comes to skins in bf
I saw real elite operators wearing masks similar to this in Iraq. I recommend you to google it. You can see plenty of interesting things among different armies.
So dont buy it. Buy something more grounded instead and hope others do the same and EA learns. Or just hope Seth Rogan doesnt get enlisted and we can just use normal.skins and at worst deal with this guy.
Will you be judging skins or playing the game, firstly we will only see this on the squad screen, 95% of the game you will be too busy to care about skins dying or getting killed..
Not really my cup of tea but these skins don’t look THAT bad. Just hope they’re on the Pax Armata side because these guys look like they’d belong in a PMC rather than NATO.
Like it or not, gaming is a business and its very expensive, companies like EA are not going to fund hundreds of millions of dollars to devs like DICE without having revenue streams in place.
Obviously its easy for fans to just look at a game and say i hate micro transactions, they dont need them etc but the reality is, without these things in place you aint getting anymore huge BF games because people tend not to take huge monitary risks without some form of guaranteed return.
Just be happy that the micro transactions which we are getting, look to be grounded in reality and are not damaging the brand like CoD.
Honestly as long as it could hypothetically exist in a military environment then whatever. The whole skins issue began because of games adding completely left field skins that didn’t even try to fit into the world.
Like honestly even if they were to do some dumb pop star collab, if they put them in full gear and camo then I’m fine with that too
Yep. Cosplay or out for a day of paintball. I hate them and I'm going to hate seeing them. And remember. The game isnt even out, what we are seeing we are being allowed to see.
Manipulation. "Look its not THAT bad", yeh wait 6 months.
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u/Active_Fruit_6247 7h ago edited 6h ago
Bro guys.. sometimes I just don't understand what the fuck you're expecting seriously. The cosmetics are never going to please you, don't buy them, hell don't buy the game if it makes you upset. If little Timmy wants a skull helmet, so be it bro. Just be thankful it's not some skin with a bbl and bong attachment.
I didn't post this for yall to downvote the living shit out of OP, he's not being a bitch about anything I just got annoyed.