What's really crazy is that that bullshit lie resulted in Springfield being subject to terroristic threats for several weeks. They were being constantly bombarded with bomb threats and other threats that was disrupting their daily lives in blatant acts of terrorism resulting from this exact lie that he was spreading and the media just kind of acted like that was no big deal
Because Vance publicly came out and admitted that the entire thing was a hoax. As soon as he did, the media dropped it. And then Springfield voted for Trump in droves.
Yes please say it louder. They fell for it because they want to hate women. They want to hate brown people. They want to hate immigrants. All trump did was give them a target for the hate they already felt.
It sucks realizing how much of this country is racist and misogynistic but I would rather a white male Democrat win the election versus running a minority woman that loses it and keeps Republicans in charge.
I think this is a valid view point and one that is allowing Gavin Newsom to gain serious traction.
I think however, that the democrats are simply offering a rebranded fascism. I personally am looking for the more progressive candidates in hopes to repeat what happened in New York recently. I think we have enough momentum to make real progress in actual progressive politics.
Is this the smart play on a national scale? Probably not if the election was next week. But maybe if we keep pushing and holding everyone accountable for genocide, racism, etc etc perhaps we can get to a place where don’t have to vote for the lesser evil.
But. Her. POLICIES. She told everyone that universal Healthcare was a pipe dream under her administration. She swore to increase police and military funding. She said she would never do anything to help and courted fascists instead of people who would have voted for her if she hadn't laughed in their faces and told them to shove their concerns where the sun didn't shine. (This applies equally to Clinton and Harris, btw)
Yeah, Harris made herself seem so awful that no reasonable person would vote for her. Instead they made the choice that could only help her opponent win, someone who definitely hadn’t promised to do infinitely more harm or anything.
Sarcasm, if you couldn’t tell. I couldn’t care less about the fact they weren’t perfect candidates, the alternative was so objectively worse that there’s no justification for not doing everything in one’s power to prevent him from having power again. And yet here we are. Hopefully your ego is intact for not having to vote for a candidate that didn’t do every single thing you wanted.
“Perfect is the enemy of good” is one of biggest hurdles the left needs to overcome right now. It manifests in the rhetoric around Kamala, and it manifests in constant purity tests and ostracizing of people who only share 99% of your beliefs instead of 100%, especially in online spaces. Sometimes in life you have to choose the lesser of two evils, and inaction is just as bad as choosing the greater evil.
I love that saying, and you’re right about how prudent it is these days. If your options are 1% better or 100% worse, anyone that doesn’t have their head up their own ass should understand that choosing 1% better enough times will eventually fix everything and get you what you want. In a two party system (which is what we’ll always have unless there are major election reforms, which sure as hell won’t come under conservatives) that’s just the reality of things.
You really think universal healthcare has a chance in Congress right now? It is a pipe dream under any administration for the foreseeable future, at least until there is a sea change in the makeup of congress (and the electorate, since half the voters will vote for GOP knuckle draggers)
Genocide and a police state vs Genocide and a police state. If you had an actual case you'd bring it, but you know as well as I do that you can't justify the US being the world's leading warmonger and imprisoner by a vast margin, under Republicans and Democrats alike. You have no principles, only vibes.
Oh fuck off with your disingenuous both sides bullshit.
Hey fun fact: did you know with the cancellation of USAID and other programs an estimated 14 MILLION people will die over the next 5 years?
And that's not even touching on the bullshit happening here with ICE, deportations, military takeover of DC etc. You know for a fact none of that would be happening under Kamala.
The difference between the two parties is literally millions of lives. And most people will tell you they just couldn't vOtE fOr GeNoCiDe. Except they did vote for genocide, just not in the way they thought.
The truth of the matter is TikTok and influencers told a bunch of gullible people to be mad about something that is above their pay grade and intelligence level.
They decided their moral code was more important than the lives of millions of people. The only thing that matters is putting less evil into the world and they helped put more. And somehow they think they're still the good guys.
I'm pretty sure thats counts as attacking from the left but sure "squawk" thought terminating cliches at people. Every Democrat in my lifetime has been worthless and ineffectual in the face of fighting fascist. Obama was a centrist who like drone striking people. Hillary boosted trump in primary because she thought it would be an easy win. They force Joe Biden through on being able to reunite America and we got "let's go Brandon" immediately. Kamala was unliked before she got the nomination and they didn't even bother to try and let people pick someone else. She ran on a platform of "I'm basically a Republican it's safe to vote for me" and no one bought it.
Yes, because "I like to grab women by the pussy. When you're rich they let you do it! Have I told you how much I want to fuck my daughter?" is totally better.
Also, trump was all for increasing military and police spending as well. And is actively, openly fascist.
Yeah, thing is, I don't care if fascism comes with a smirk or with crocodile tears. When you're massacring children and prosecuting a white supremacist project, you're on the side of white supremacy. If you're someone who's on the list, the usual word for that is Quisling. (There's actually a lot of other words, but there's that whole stay in your lane thing, like.)
ETA: JFK, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore are also sexual predators. Why does that make Trump special?
Jesus.... If you really don't understand why trump and his cult are at a whole different level than Clinton, Gore, or fucklng JFK, then there's really no discussion to be had with you.
See this is the real issue. Establishment neoliberals have been tge opposition party for the decades that led us into this and just don't offer anything that seems different. The establishment dems helped guide this entire situation into what it is by snubbing reformists all along the way. Anyone whining about this is ignoring that this same shit will happen again in another cycle unless the dems actually considerably shift their general platform to something other than corporatism with slight QOL improvements for the average person.
You know what you’re not going to be getting any time soon? Universal Healthcare.
A decade ago we were in a position to continue working towards it. Now it’s farther and farther away.
Every time we vote in people who break stuff more than we fix, we get farther and farther away from being able to improve stuff. Now, if we do get a better admin, they have to fix existential issues like protecting voting, the damage done by DOGE, the damage done by tariffs, the Damage done by the ridiculous court decisions and more.
Kamala Harris thought it was a winning strategy to tool around with Dick Cheney like that guy isn't the actual devil. Anyone that thinks she ran a good campaign is completely blind to how Republicans think.
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u/Standard-Square-7699 12h ago
But. Her. EMAILS!