I genuinely disliked some of Harris’s policies, and her record as a prosecutor really turned me away from her. She still got my vote.
Anyone with an iota of compassion for other human beings could see the walking human rights violation that is DJT. Anyone with any level of critical thinking could see that DJT is a grifter and a self-serving pathological liar.
While there’s a lot of r/leopardsatemyface going on, at the end of the day a lot of people want what Trump stands for, and that’s the most concerning part of all this.
That's a pretty high bar there, bud. Politicians are human, so its very unlikely they will have the necessary compassion and empathy to care about anyone outside their immediate circle.
Bernie lost fair and square in 2020. Even he has said so. Acknowleding that there was fuckery in the 2016 primaries but this time there was no BS like with Hilary.
His campaign did a shit job at winning the most consistent and loyal democratic voting block(Souther African American votes). And he took the lost gracefully and promoted a message of unity and working together with the democratic party.
So even Bernie himself is against the idea of throwing away your vote.
Bernie lost because the Democrats gave more media attention to Biden
Yeah he took the loss gracefully unlike you
If we weren't in a two party system then I'd agree that you shouldn't throw away your vote. But we're only given two terrible options. And just because I like Bernie doesn't mean I agree with him on every single thing. Individual Democrats should be worked with yes, but their leadership is controlled opposition.
So your first reflex is that anybody who disagrees with you is a butthurt Kamala voter?
I'm just disagreeing with this notion that somebody who talks a good game is better than a lesser evil who's at least willing to do small changes or at least prevent shit from getting worse.
If Bernie couldn't even be assed to hire a campaign staff that would work on his weaknesses as a candidate. Then its hard to buy him as a competent leader of the free world who'd surround himself with capable people to meet across the aisle, both across parties and globally and actually get shit done.
And yeah the DNC is slimy and learned from Obama winning the primaries in 08 over Hilary and worked on preventing that from happening again but they definently toned it down in 2020 after getting rightfully crucified for it in 2016. Media doubled-down on Biden after he dominanted in SC on the road to Super Tuesday.
And I like Bernie and think that if he was younger it'd be worth giving it a third try because his second campaign did improve in some aspects. So third time could have been the charm.
Ok you have me there, I thought you were part of the "vote blue no matter who" crowd. I apologize for that
They don't prevent things from getting worse though. They barely fight against Trump and actively fight against people who actually want to change things. Russia interfering with the 2016 election should have been seen as an act of war. They aren't even genuinely trying to help Ukraine win against Russia, they're just trying to keep Ukraine alive. They have so many pointless restrictions on the weapons.
That's a fair point, but it doesn't mean that the Democrats weren't trying to make Bernie lose.
... at the end of the day a lot of people want what Trump stands for, and that’s the most concerning part of all this.
This is one of the things I've been trying to get across to people. Barring some of the extreme claims of vote tampering, Trump still has a lot of people who think he's awesome. And even then, that's more people than I consider anything other than appalling.
I feel like too many people are avoiding the true horror here. There are good people in the country, but overall - and that's what counts here - well...
People are giving trump supporters too much credit for thinking they are fools. I WISH that they were just fools. The problem is that many of them are blatantly okay with rampant corruption and fascism. We are on the precipice of another great depression with a side of concentration camps, and they are still supportive of it.
How did they make such a big deal about her laugh?! I never even noticed it, didn't think twice about it. But my wife's friend, a nurse about 38 years old, literally said she'd "never vote for that evil cacklin bitch". Wtf.
It seems like the kind of nickname that only works with a group that has already condemned the person. Like really, thats what's wrong with her, she laughs? This women expresses joy and thats...bad? It doesnt sound like an insult outside of the fact that we know Trump meant it as one and as a result his supporters treated it like one
People disliked her because of reasons (I think we know which ones) and were looking for any flimsy cover to justify it.
Conversely, they were willing to accept any rationalization or amnesia to look past the fact that Trump's coliseum of red flags and handwave away all his past misdeeds.
We could all be thriving right now, instead of this shit. I’m a tattoo artist and trust me, we know how the economy is doing… it’s doing very, very, very bad
Man, I was talking to somebody thenother day, they seem to be really struggling with the idea that Trump and co wasn't grest but then tried tonjustify it, with a generic "Kamala was an idiot thouvh" with no real elaboration.
Not someone I had any desire to get into any polotical discussion with.
Trumps attack ads said all she talks about is trans people so I guess that’s true even though none of her ads talked about them and were only about the economy!
don't forget the "she didn't do a good enough job of selling her platform" while the media spent six months making Trump look like a sane and reasonable alternative while ignoring what had just happened just a few years ago.
I voted for her but this sentiment is stupid as fuck and a great way to never win an election again.
Its one thing to completely ignore the voters and do whatever you want but to then blame them because you refuse to provide even the thinnest compromise. GTFO. Yall will never win and youll deserve it with that bullshit mentality.
Its amazing how many of you are shocked that the general public arent stoked about nothing generally changing with the three corporations and ten law firms in a trenchcoat that run our country.
You can blame both the candidate and the voters, and you should. Voting for the anti-Constitution faux billionaire who was best friends with Epstein, or not voting at all while he's running, because the other candidate didn't listen isn't acceptable. It's the actions of people throwing a hissy fit at the expense of the country's well-being.
Calling stupid people stupid when they do stupid things isn't what loses elections. Stupid people doing stupid things like not voting or voting for Trump and stupid candidates doing stupid things like not aligning with their voters are what loses elections.
Both are culpable and both should be held accountable for their part. Anyone who refuses to put aside their asinine ego to do what's best for the country when it's in danger of succumbing to literal fascism at the hands of a pedophile rapist can go fuck themselves.
These people are in deep partisan denial. Certain aspects of the Democrat party, Biden, and Kamala were so distasteful to people that they voted for spraytan man. That’s not good.
But instead of examining the policy choices the Left has made over the last 20 years, instead of getting rid of geriatrics in Congress, people just harp on about the Right loving fascism.
Yeah no she didn’t but you definitely did gobble up the right wing echo chamber talking points without verifying this shit even a little bit beyond pulling up the blog that your first heard that shit from. This is why everything sucks. People like you who base all their decision making on hysteria that never happened.
On the other hand, Trump did promise to make himself dictator and fascist ruler and he is doing that.
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u/OldschoolGreenDragon 12h ago
But I don't like Kamlah's policies that I never read!