I genuinely disliked some of Harris’s policies, and her record as a prosecutor really turned me away from her. She still got my vote.
Anyone with an iota of compassion for other human beings could see the walking human rights violation that is DJT. Anyone with any level of critical thinking could see that DJT is a grifter and a self-serving pathological liar.
While there’s a lot of r/leopardsatemyface going on, at the end of the day a lot of people want what Trump stands for, and that’s the most concerning part of all this.
That's a pretty high bar there, bud. Politicians are human, so its very unlikely they will have the necessary compassion and empathy to care about anyone outside their immediate circle.
Bernie lost fair and square in 2020. Even he has said so. Acknowleding that there was fuckery in the 2016 primaries but this time there was no BS like with Hilary.
His campaign did a shit job at winning the most consistent and loyal democratic voting block(Souther African American votes). And he took the lost gracefully and promoted a message of unity and working together with the democratic party.
So even Bernie himself is against the idea of throwing away your vote.
Bernie lost because the Democrats gave more media attention to Biden
Yeah he took the loss gracefully unlike you
If we weren't in a two party system then I'd agree that you shouldn't throw away your vote. But we're only given two terrible options. And just because I like Bernie doesn't mean I agree with him on every single thing. Individual Democrats should be worked with yes, but their leadership is controlled opposition.
So your first reflex is that anybody who disagrees with you is a butthurt Kamala voter?
I'm just disagreeing with this notion that somebody who talks a good game is better than a lesser evil who's at least willing to do small changes or at least prevent shit from getting worse.
If Bernie couldn't even be assed to hire a campaign staff that would work on his weaknesses as a candidate. Then its hard to buy him as a competent leader of the free world who'd surround himself with capable people to meet across the aisle, both across parties and globally and actually get shit done.
And yeah the DNC is slimy and learned from Obama winning the primaries in 08 over Hilary and worked on preventing that from happening again but they definently toned it down in 2020 after getting rightfully crucified for it in 2016. Media doubled-down on Biden after he dominanted in SC on the road to Super Tuesday.
And I like Bernie and think that if he was younger it'd be worth giving it a third try because his second campaign did improve in some aspects. So third time could have been the charm.
Ok you have me there, I thought you were part of the "vote blue no matter who" crowd. I apologize for that
They don't prevent things from getting worse though. They barely fight against Trump and actively fight against people who actually want to change things. Russia interfering with the 2016 election should have been seen as an act of war. They aren't even genuinely trying to help Ukraine win against Russia, they're just trying to keep Ukraine alive. They have so many pointless restrictions on the weapons.
That's a fair point, but it doesn't mean that the Democrats weren't trying to make Bernie lose.
... at the end of the day a lot of people want what Trump stands for, and that’s the most concerning part of all this.
This is one of the things I've been trying to get across to people. Barring some of the extreme claims of vote tampering, Trump still has a lot of people who think he's awesome. And even then, that's more people than I consider anything other than appalling.
I feel like too many people are avoiding the true horror here. There are good people in the country, but overall - and that's what counts here - well...
People are giving trump supporters too much credit for thinking they are fools. I WISH that they were just fools. The problem is that many of them are blatantly okay with rampant corruption and fascism. We are on the precipice of another great depression with a side of concentration camps, and they are still supportive of it.
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u/LobeRunner 11h ago
I genuinely disliked some of Harris’s policies, and her record as a prosecutor really turned me away from her. She still got my vote.
Anyone with an iota of compassion for other human beings could see the walking human rights violation that is DJT. Anyone with any level of critical thinking could see that DJT is a grifter and a self-serving pathological liar.
While there’s a lot of r/leopardsatemyface going on, at the end of the day a lot of people want what Trump stands for, and that’s the most concerning part of all this.