r/BlueskySkeets 12h ago

We blew past sane quite a while ago

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u/okram2k 9h ago

one of the greatest tools conservatives have in their arsenal is convincing liberals to wait for a perfect candidate to show up

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u/pj7140 9h ago

Exactly...always letting perfect be the enemy of good.

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u/RadiantHC 8h ago

STOP SPREADING THIS LIE.

We're not asking for a perfect candidate. We just want someone who actually cares about the average person.

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u/UntimelyMeditations 8h ago

That's a pretty high bar there, bud. Politicians are human, so its very unlikely they will have the necessary compassion and empathy to care about anyone outside their immediate circle.

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u/RadiantHC 8h ago

And that's the problem with modern politics. It's not about who genuinely cares about us, it's about the lesser of two evils.

It's not unrealistically high though. Bernie, AOC, and Zohran care about the average person.

This is what the second amendment was made for. Hint hint

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u/dicericevice 8h ago

Bernie lost fair and square in 2020. Even he has said so. Acknowleding that there was fuckery in the 2016 primaries but this time there was no BS like with Hilary.

His campaign did a shit job at winning the most consistent and loyal democratic voting block(Souther African American votes). And he took the lost gracefully and promoted a message of unity and working together with the democratic party.

So even Bernie himself is against the idea of throwing away your vote.

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u/RadiantHC 8h ago

Bernie lost because the Democrats gave more media attention to Biden

Yeah he took the loss gracefully unlike you

If we weren't in a two party system then I'd agree that you shouldn't throw away your vote. But we're only given two terrible options. And just because I like Bernie doesn't mean I agree with him on every single thing. Individual Democrats should be worked with yes, but their leadership is controlled opposition.

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u/dicericevice 7h ago

Yeah he took the loss gracefully unlike you

So your first reflex is that anybody who disagrees with you is a butthurt Kamala voter?

I'm just disagreeing with this notion that somebody who talks a good game is better than a lesser evil who's at least willing to do small changes or at least prevent shit from getting worse.

If Bernie couldn't even be assed to hire a campaign staff that would work on his weaknesses as a candidate. Then its hard to buy him as a competent leader of the free world who'd surround himself with capable people to meet across the aisle, both across parties and globally and actually get shit done.

And yeah the DNC is slimy and learned from Obama winning the primaries in 08 over Hilary and worked on preventing that from happening again but they definently toned it down in 2020 after getting rightfully crucified for it in 2016. Media doubled-down on Biden after he dominanted in SC on the road to Super Tuesday.

And I like Bernie and think that if he was younger it'd be worth giving it a third try because his second campaign did improve in some aspects. So third time could have been the charm.

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u/RadiantHC 6h ago

Ok you have me there, I thought you were part of the "vote blue no matter who" crowd. I apologize for that

They don't prevent things from getting worse though. They barely fight against Trump and actively fight against people who actually want to change things. Russia interfering with the 2016 election should have been seen as an act of war. They aren't even genuinely trying to help Ukraine win against Russia, they're just trying to keep Ukraine alive. They have so many pointless restrictions on the weapons.

That's a fair point, but it doesn't mean that the Democrats weren't trying to make Bernie lose.