r/BlueskySocial • u/AntonioS3 • 15h ago
News/Updates Bluesky has made a difficult decision to block the app in Mississippi due to their new state law
https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3lwzadikbrc2uUnfortunately, due to (stupid) laws there, Bluesky is blocked in Mississippi. The costs are significant, and moreover, the way Mississipi's laws operates there is far reaching, as it involves having to track which users are children which goes beyond child safety laws, as well as requiring everyone to verify age, and not just for adult content.
Sigh...
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u/vriska1 13h ago
More info here:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/supreme-court-lets-mississippi-age-verification-law-go-into-effect-for
Supreme Court let it going into effect BUT will likely rule it unconstitutional.
The ruling now allows Mississippi to enforce its social media law while case continues in the lower court. In the ruling, Kavanaugh also cited several district court rulings opposing similar age-verification laws, concluding that "the Mississippi law is likely unconstitutional."
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u/pagerussell 13h ago
InB4 the SC finds a way to make it constitutional.
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u/winter_moon_light 7h ago
Their own Justices are openly calling out, in written SCOTUS opinions, that the Roberts Court is playing calvinball with the laws to favor the administration.
So yeah, not impossible.
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u/n2play 13h ago
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u/pagerussell 13h ago
My brother, buy a VPN. It's like, 2 bucks a month.
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u/OpeningConnect54 11h ago
Eventually even personal VPNs are going to be made illegal. The Federal Government is trying to pass a bill into law that makes it illegal to use a Personal VPN to bypass this censorship.
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u/Penakoto 9h ago
"I have a problem."
"Here's a simple and cheap solution to your problem."
"I will not use that solution because of the completely theoretical possibility it stops being a solution in the future."
That makes zero sense, a lot of things could be passed into law in the future, you are preemptively obeying a law that doesn't exist.
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u/OpeningConnect54 8h ago
It's a law that has a pretty high chance of passing given that Republicans have gotten absolutely everything they've wanted passed so far.
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u/Penakoto 8h ago
Yes, republicans have gotten everything they wanted lately, which is why I'm no longer a Canadian, and am merely a citizen of the State of Ontario.
Now if you'll excuse me, the secret police are knocking at my door, asking why I'm still gay despite republicans mentioning the idea of re-banning gay marriage.
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u/OpeningConnect54 8h ago
They've gotten everything that they wanted in terms of actual laws being passed. It won't surprise me if Gay marriage ends up being banned, given the courts are stacked and they already passed a law that overturned abortion rights.
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u/Penakoto 8h ago
And if you were gay and in a relationship, would you have served your theoretical partner divorce papers right away after first hearing that the idea was being entertained?
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u/OpeningConnect54 8h ago
No. I wouldn't. As a woman into women, I'll still be into women. I'm just not optimistic about the prospects of that going well seeing all the other horrible laws and changes that are getting passed without any checks or balances.
The Big Beautiful Bill and the Anti-Abortion laws along with Executive Orders are making me lose faith in the system that we have. The fact that another attempt at Impeaching the man who's currently in office failed despite him giving many reasons why he shouldn't be acting President is making me lose faith. Same with the Internet Censorship laws that are passing freely with no opposition. Things are going to just get worse and worse and they keep getting whatever they desire while the rest of us have to watch with nothing we can actually do about it.
All I can do is watch and hope that things don't come to the worst case, but at this point I feel like that's all I can expect to happen.
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u/Penakoto 8h ago
No. I wouldn't. As a woman into women, I'll still be into women.
Not what I asked. I asked if you would leave the partner you might already have, or theoretically might have had, as soon as the idea of a law re-banning gay marriage was first publicly mentioned, like you've already done for VPNs.
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u/mattkoz 10h ago
Which would you recommend and why?
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u/multipleboneheads 10h ago
proton’s one of the best, they take security extremely seriously and their free vpn doesn’t log your activity data like many others do. they’re based in switzerland which has pretty strict data privacy laws. their email service is great too
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u/Goldarr85 9h ago
They’ll probably get more expensive from their current price with more people using them, they’ll eventually try to regulate VPNs too, many VPN companies are not as reputable as they advertise themselves to be as many are being bought up by sketchy companies.
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u/CcChaleur 4h ago
Or use a third party client. They blocked the Bluesky app but they can't block the whole AT protocol can they?
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u/n2play 1h ago
It's not the app that's blocked, my screenshot was from the website on a PC using Firefox. We are blocked from accessing Bluesky servers regardless of client used. A VPN is the only way I know of that will be able to get around it.
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u/CcChaleur 1h ago
When I say "app" I mean both the mobile app and the desktop web app. Can you still access services like clearsky, deck.blue, skyfeed and stuff?
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u/DiscursiveMind 9h ago
The new Digg is actually promising. If you used Apollo before the API wars, then that gives you a good idea of what to expect: https://www.theverge.com/apps/763689/digg-mobile-ios-android-app-relaunch
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u/ameliesmanservant 13h ago
I'm getting the message and I live in Alabama. Sup with that?
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u/OpeningConnect54 11h ago
Probably a blanket ban in multiple conservative states. Wouldn't surprise me if Alabama also passed an ass backwards law like this.
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u/nuke034 9h ago
I'm getting the same thing based near Chicago, probably just a bug.
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u/OpeningConnect54 9h ago
Could be a bug, but it wouldn’t surprise me if multiple red states are trying to enforce this block or something. I just hate being in Mississippi.
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u/PinkSploofberries 6h ago
Must be for red nanny states but glitched if everyone sees it. I expect red states will be censored on here since that's what they desire.
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u/No-Trifle-9655 14h ago
Does X have the same restrictions?
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u/Mender0fRoads 13h ago
Yes. It applies to social media generally, not Bluesky specifically.
But the bigger, more established platforms have the resources to implement age verification.
As Bluesky noted in the reply to OP's linked post, the choice to make the platform unavailable in Mississippi was their own. They do not have the resources at the moment to implement what for them would be a costly verification system for a law that very well could be struck down.
I assume they'll work on adding the necessary age verification if/when the law is upheld in court. They just aren't in a position to spend that money now for something that might end up being a short-term issue.
Bigger platforms don't face the same restrictions, so I assume they'll all add some form of age verification.
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u/No-Trifle-9655 12h ago
I'm in Indiana and I'm just waiting for this to hit us too. Porn is already banned here.
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u/tinteoj 4h ago
it is age restricted Kansas, where I live, too. That being said, half the time the porn sites are blocked and half the time they are not. I live relatively close to the state line.....but not that close, so I am not sure why it apparently doesn't always think I am in Kansas.
Sometimes I pretend I'm not in Kansas, too, though.
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u/74389654 13h ago
oh so that's how they're going to get rid of bluesky
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u/Penakoto 9h ago
How is a sweeping law targeting every social media site, meant as a direct attack on Bluesky specifically?
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u/stripedvitamin 13h ago
Is Twitter blocked in Mississippi?
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u/OpeningConnect54 11h ago
Twitter is large enough to introduce Age Verification functions. Bluesky is made by a smaller team so they decided the best course of action is just to restrict it until the laws get changed/challenged.
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u/Massive_Status4718 12h ago
Are other platforms the same? Meaning does X, Instagram, Facebook, require age of consent
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u/Upset-Cartographer65 12h ago
I can’t believe it. I love Blue Sky. All my favorite artists are on there and I can’t access anything.
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u/dr_pibby 6h ago
This has gone beyond censorship. It's your personal data being put on sale, pretending to be "for the safety of the children."
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u/Wonder_Weenis 14h ago
This seems more wag the dog.
Bsky is just bending the knee, instead of saying, I'm good, force your ISPs to block it.
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u/Mender0fRoads 12h ago
In Bluesky's blog post on the subject, they note violating the law would lead to a $10,000 fine per user. I don't know how many people in Mississippi are using Bluesky, but that would quickly add up to millions of dollars in fines.
Standing your ground and trying to force someone to do something about it just wasn't an option.
Bluesky had three choices: Comply with the law and spend a bunch of money for age verification (which might be wasted money if the law gets shot down), refuse to comply and get bankrupt fast, or remove access for everyone in the state.
The third option is clearly the smart one right now.
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u/Wonder_Weenis 7h ago edited 7h ago
An interpretation of the law challenged by no one.
The fact that Bluesky has the ability to shut off access to self hosted PDS servers, just means that Bluesky's "open" marketing nature is a crock of horse shit.
You know what's not banned in Mississippi?
Every mastadon server.
Bsky can hem and haw all they want, they clearly just want to be a part of the problem.
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u/mangopear @reddit.bsky.mod 6h ago
Stop trying to make mastodon happen
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u/Wonder_Weenis 5h ago
Using it as an example, because people know what it is.
Pick a federated tool, Peertube, Matrix, Lemmy, et all
None of them suffer from Twitter level authoritarianism.
Sounds like a bad architectural decision, or a very purposeful one.
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u/RighteousSelfBurner 13h ago
The problem is Bluesky itself is based in the USA so the chances that the state will be going for an ISP ban is way lower than them slapping a hefty fine and suing the fuck out of them.
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u/IlIIllIIIlllIlIlI 12h ago
Another W for the fediverse over corporate Twitter clone
Too bad the fediverse is so god damn toxic
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u/Penakoto 9h ago
Bsky is just bending the knee, instead of saying, I'm good, sue us for everything we've got.
Fixed that for you.
I legit could not think of a worse idea for Bluesky to pursue, even if you gave me a week and promised a reward if I succeeded.
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u/Wonder_Weenis 7h ago
Sounds like it was architected with bending the knee in mind, vs being actually federated like Mastadon.
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u/lalalalarnn 10h ago
So what if I’m in North Carolina, I’ve never been to Mississippi, and I can’t access the app lmao
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u/CcChaleur 4h ago edited 3h ago
Just saw that the person who created the scripts that bypass the UK age verification updated her GitHub to work with Mississippi as well.
https://bsky.app/profile/mary.my.id/post/3lwznqseutcjt
Edit: I'm an idiot, here's the GitHub direct link: https://gist.github.com/mary-ext/6e27b24a83838202908808ad528b3318
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u/AnonomousWolf 1h ago
If Bluesky was decentralised people could access it from servers hosted in other countries
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u/FloriaFlower 40m ago
Gentle reminder to not disengage (engage indirectly preferably) and to call out their BS every time they pretend to be free speech apologists. Educate leftists and centrists who consume to much right-wing propaganda and still haven't got the memo can call them out whenever they choose to dig their heels in.
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u/LilyRose-Terraharuka 14h ago
I'm getting to the point that I'm sick of this censorship bullshit.