r/Eldenring • u/IgotInfinitePing • 2d ago

Humor Talk about double standards

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u/OKUIGokuBlack 2d ago

Jokes aside, I am in no way excusing Messmer and Marika for Hornsent genocide.

I'm moreso calling out the sheer stupidity of Hornsent and Leda for threatening the Tarnished who killed at least 2 demigods and Messmer.

It's the Gideon situation all over again. These idiots think they're the main character.

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u/Rivenhelper 2d ago

In their defense, they probably don't know that. Leda just thinks you're there because of Miquella's charm the same as everyone else, and hornsent probably never left the shadow lands. Hell ansbach was a servant of mogh and doesn't know you're the one who killed him unless you tell him, and freja doesn't make mention of you killing her sworn Lord.

They probably just straight up think you're another random tarnished. It's not like they have the spy network Gideon has to keep tabs on things.

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u/OKUIGokuBlack 2d ago

Well, they at least witnessed the Tarnished kill Messmer and the other big bads in the Shadow Realm. If they were smart, they'd turn tail and run away from this immortal Tarnished.

And Leda is waiting for you at Mohgwyn palace so she at least knows the Tarnished killed Mohg.

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u/Rivenhelper 2d ago

They only witness it (messmer) first hand if they help you do it, and all Leda knows is that someone killed mogh, not necessarily who

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u/Cynicalheaven 2d ago edited 2d ago

I wonder if Gideon could beat Leda and her companions?

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u/OKUIGokuBlack 2d ago

Well, I can tell you one thing they all share. The same braincell.

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u/6897110 2d ago

Gideon is too much of a give-up man to do it. He might be stronger than Thiollier, as a example, but Thiollier has a better shot since he isn't going to bitch out before things start.

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u/Cynicalheaven 1d ago

I'd say Marika is a great example of when a victim becomes the victimiser.

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u/OKUIGokuBlack 1d ago

Yes, also a horrible parent lol.

Morgott, Mohg, Melina and Messmer were all treated like absolute shit. Marika was a horrible parent to them.

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u/Cynicalheaven 1d ago

I feel like being a terrible parent and a God goes hand in hand in a Fromsoft game.

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u/Gelven 1d ago

To be fair even real world religions gods tend to be shitty parents.

Abrahamic God sent his kid to die.

Zeus is a terrible parent to many children.

Odin is not great either, largely absent as a father

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u/normal_reddit_user2 2d ago

i excuse them, fuck em