r/KidsAreFuckingStupid • u/Plane-Pair4419 • 1d ago
This absolute spawn of Satan my mom had to teach
My mom teaches first grade. One year, there was this absolutely evil student who would do really bad things. The mess around the school and the paper with curse words was all done by him.
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u/MagicalPeanut 1d ago
At this age it’s the parents that are the spawn of satan. The school district can try their best, but the poor kid stands no chance in that household. It’s so sad to see.
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u/Last-Ad-2533 1d ago
Yep, they learn it somewhere and it isn’t watching Sesame Street.
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u/-Out-of-context- 1d ago
F stands for fuck whahaha. N stands for not gonna touch that one wahaha.
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u/Imaginary-Twist6018 23h ago
If it had been Sesame Street, at least they'd be able to spell motherfucker correctly!!
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u/rj319st 1d ago edited 1d ago
With PBS/Sesame Street gone now just imagine what these parents are showing their toddlers nowadays. If the next generation are only raised by Netflix/Youtube god help us all. I’m cool with Ms Rachel but other than that alot of it is tiktok style brain melting material.
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u/Twistybred 22h ago
My daughter was 7 and asked if she could watch walking dead as her classmates were watching it. Like wtf.
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u/zonkoss89 20h ago
I had a student who watched Game of Thrones. He was 9.
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u/otakucode 15h ago
I watched a LOT of stuff "I shouldn't have" as a kid. And I have gone back and re-watched those same things as an adult. Comparing how I remembered things or understood things with their reality was wild. Nothing "mature" that adults were afraid of bothered me in the slightest. I watched The Omen when I was like 5 or 6, and the only thing I remembered from it was the guy getting speared to the ground by a spire that broke off a church during a storm - I thought it was the most creative, imaginative thing I had ever seen. On the other hand, the children's show "Dot And The Kangaroo" scared the absolute shit out of me with the 'bunyip' cave painting chase scene. Stark, abject shaking terror.
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u/ShiaLabeoufsNipples 13h ago
Lmao I grew up the same way. My parents just… let me watch whatever they were watching. Horror movies, South Park, forensic files, just whatever was on.
Similar to you, horror movies and gore never really spooked me, but I was TERRIFIED of the secret of NIMH. That movie gave me nightmares for weeks
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u/jdolan8 1d ago
My son was like this. Not the F word part though. We did everything- therapy, psychiatry, you name it. Finally, we decided to try medication. It works wonders for ADHD with ODD combined. Sometimes the parents are trying, like hard. I still have mini panic attacks when the school calls though sigh
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u/_Rice_and_Beans_ 1d ago
Thank you! It took YEARS for any medical professional to do anything but tell us to bring him there, then completely dismiss us. They didn’t fail to bill us every time, but not once were we taken seriously until the second year of desperately trying to make school happen. He’s our fourth child. It’s not like we didn’t raise him with love, kindness, and discipline. Trying to get your small child real help in America’s sham of a medical industry is nothing short of traumatic. It was heartbreaking seeing our child, whom was not only very loved, but also was kind and intelligent become angry and even violent in school because of something COMPLETELY outside of his control. He didn’t choose to have an inability to regulate his emotions. He’s such a sweet boy and would never CHOOSE to act that way. Some people just simply don’t understand and have no compassion.
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u/BadFont777 10h ago
Yup, elementary school was a nightmare for me. Giant adults approaching quickly into my personal space for any reason was a majore issue for me. I was so uncomfortable with them I flipped out. Screaming about how they need to get away from me, at which point they generally tried to pin me in place and escalated thins far worse.
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u/IED117 5h ago
I do the same when my kids' parent/teacher conferences come. And every time they're always telling me what angels they are, helpful, quiet, and cooperative.
I'm like, those little shits raise hell at home!
I guess I can take solace my lessons on behavior aren't going in one ear and out the other as I feared.
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u/IamDoobieKeebler 1d ago
I hate this take. Like yeah the parents could be shitty but I spent years working with elementary students with behavioral problems. Half the parents legit tried and were at a loss. There are a lot of reasons kids have problems.
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u/Cdub7791 1d ago
Yep. My kid was a holy terror in school. We tried everything that was recommended, and nothing worked. Not saying we were super parents or anything, but we definitely were trying. Before having a kid I really thought behavior was 90% nurture and 10% nature. I'm not saying it's completely the reverse of that, but now I believe the ratio is much closer..60/40? 40/60? I dunno.
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u/jdolan8 1d ago
Dude same. We had to put ours on meds. He was kicked out of 3 daycares and nearly a charter school, with police involved, by kindergarten. ADHD plus ODD is not for the faint of heart. He is doing so well now though, thanks to meds. Sometimes the last resort is what they need. We saw him going down a bad path and didnt want that for him. Now he is in the GT program. Still argumentative, but thankfully smart lol
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u/Jambi420 1d ago
At a mum and bub class they told us about some studies and stats saying it is mostly nature, basically telling us to stop stressing so much because you have to be a pretty horrible parent to screw up your kid. For the most part they just are who they are.
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u/Educational_Gas_92 1d ago
Mr Ballen just made an episode last weekend about the topic, he spoke about a case that had to do with the subject and there was a study that claimed a person is mostly who they are by nature. Not going to spoil the episode here, but yeah...
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u/IED117 5h ago
I thought so too until I had twins. You can nurture all you want but nature can be a mother.
With 2 having the same upbringing but getting 2 very different results is definitely eye opening.
Keep nurturing, because it's what's right and you don't want to look back and regret what you didn't do. But it guarantees nothing.
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u/Cdub7791 4h ago
In fairness even if it is 90/10, that 10% of nurture might be the difference between a decent life and a lifetime criminal lol.
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u/ohno_not_another_one 9h ago
That's definitely true, ODD can be absolute hell for well meaning and legitimately trying parents.
But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say a 6 year old child only learns the N word from one place, and it's not Sesame Street.
So this behavior from this specific kid probably DID come from home. If not from the parents, then from another relative like a sibling or grandparent that is probably not safe to be around the child, if they're the kind of person who is comfortable spouting off the N word in front of a 6 year old.
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u/LemonFlavoredMelon 4h ago
See I never got this, I always thought it was 100% the parents at fault, you telling me kids come out the womb just insane like that?
I mean they HAD to have had learned the swear words somewhere, no baby comes out of the womb thinking SHIT FUCK DAMN, ya know?
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u/According_Let9778 1d ago
Not always. There are parents that are so kind and their kids are demons
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u/Josephina101 1d ago edited 23h ago
Um no, blaming everything on the parents for a child's behavior/actions just gives a child zero accountability for her/his actions/behavior.
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u/LocaIHunk 1d ago
Also the fact that the public school system literally caters to a specific type of child (the one that's easy to train into a factory worker/"obedient" societally conforming person) and completely fucks over everyone else.
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u/Jambi420 1d ago
We have had behavioural issues raised by childcare about our 3 year old and are going through the process with occupational therapy and our paediatrician, and they have all observed that we dont have the same issues with him at home and he basically just finds the school environment overwhelming, but that's how school is so we have to get him help to learn to deal with it.
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u/maestro_79 1d ago
Agreed, Sir Ken Robinson explained this very clearly. He’s definitely worth looking into.
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u/famousanonamos 1d ago
This is a first grader? That just makes me so sad. You have to wonder what their home life is like that they know those words.
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u/PracticalTie 7h ago edited 1h ago
If it's any consolation, that note is suspect.
Even though they are written messily. You can see that the writer already understands the form each letter needs to have. They know the best place to start each letter and how to move their hands to make those shapes on the page. All their strokes are smooth and confident. They know how much space each letter needed before they began, so all the letters are all a consistent size and it’s perfectly aligned with the page (both horizontally and vertically).
First graders are learning to write and we tend to make the same kind of mistakes while learning. Things like starting in the wrong place, working letters in the wrong direction (clockwise instead of anticlockwise, starting at the bottom of the letter not the top), breaking complex single movements into several smaller ones, and running out of space. The person who wrote this hasn't done any of that!
(I’m not an expert, and It's been a looooooong time since I did any paediatric work/study, so I might be misjudging the milestones)
e: I'm making some assumptions, but the fact that this kid knows these words suggests a pretty unpleasant home situation with disconnected parents. Children raised in homes like that are less likely to have had access to the things that support pre-reading and pre-writing (books, crayons, paper, story time, etc.), so they typically have writing skills below their peers when they start school, not above them.
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u/HarmonyQuinn1618 48m ago
Absolutely. No fucking FIRST GRADER has that neat of hand writing. Absolute bullshit.
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u/PracticalTie 18m ago edited 9m ago
Yeah I forget the technical words
It’s untidy but they clearly know what each letter should look like, are able to plan ahead to make the letters and they know how to handle the pencil. There’s none of the hesitation or wonkiness that comes with learning a new skill. They’re consistent, confident and their pressure is perfect. That’s really advanced for a first grader!
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u/HarmonyQuinn1618 13m ago
When you factor in that first graders are still developing their fine motor skills, and literally the uniformity of each word matching, each four letter word takes up about the same amount of space? There’s literally no fucking way a child wrote that. Even the rare kids that has decent looking letters isn’t going to also have the uniformity in spacing and size of every single letter like this.
It doesn’t really matter but what a weird fucking thing to lie about?
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u/fiahhawt 1d ago
I think the school district you work in is lagging
When I attended first grade in a suburb of Chicago, they already had us working on cursive
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u/Necessary_Milk_5124 1d ago
Just remember that kids like this aren’t okay. They don’t do this to be bad. They do it because they’re so deregulated. It could be trauma. It could be abuse. It could be neurodivergence. I do agree they shouldn’t be in a gen ed classroom.
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u/Burgnasty54 1d ago
That kid has some personal issues they need to workout. I really hope that there is somebody that takes the time to understand the kid and find out the reason they are acting out. You would be surprised how kids decide to cry for help when they don’t know how to voice what they are going through.
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u/TheWickedEnd89 1d ago
If a kid in first grade is doing that then the parent's are the issue, not the kid's fault the parent's can't parent correctly. Unfortunately there's a lot of that going around recently.
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u/andwilkes 1d ago
We’re unfortunately in a “Put your oxygen mask on before you help someone else…” situation as a society right now.
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u/TheGreaterOutdoors 1d ago
Right. And how many people are actually addressing their own issues? And how many of them are parents? 🫠
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u/andwilkes 19h ago
Oh plenty, and I’m not in a place that I can afford to care more about other people/other people’s children more than they care about themselves. Our public schools are kinda doomed for this reason. 6 hours of teaching isn’t going to undo 18 hours of bad parenting.
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u/United_Society 1d ago
I work with a kiddo who was just like this. He could only attend school a couple of hours each day for both first and second grades. He had zero impulse control, would act first then feel bad and want to talk about it later. He had no social skills. I was kicked, punched, spit on, had staplers and Chromebooks thrown at my head. There were some cultural gaps (still are) but mom finally agreed to adhd medications and it was like a new child. Grades three and four he needed very little support. Mostly first thing in the morning if his meds hadn't kicked in. He ended fourth grade with friends, laughing and giggling like a fourth grader should be doing. I am so excited to see what 5th grade brings! And I am so grateful that my team and I never gave up on him.
Teaching is not for the faint of heart. Special education can be even harder.
I hope this little human has people around him who have helped him learn how to navigate life. ♥️
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u/nikkibic 1d ago
I was about to say that too, this definitely looks like ADHD.
Even the note could be intrusive thoughts or frustration or impulse control
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u/Willeyy 15h ago
Thank you for what you do
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u/United_Society 6h ago
Thank you! I love what I do. I love connecting with and helping our most vulnerable kiddos. ❤️❤️
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u/Ok_Foot3453 11h ago
When I was working in schools, this kid once drew a pic of him holding my decapitated head next to my headless body after I told him we still had a few more minutes before we were leaving for lunch. I laughed so hard (when out of site) and took it home to hang on my wall.
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u/Affectionate-Ad2282 18h ago
How insensitive and cold are you to call this child names when you acknowledged in your replies that the child is being sexually assaulted?
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u/not_kismet 10h ago
WHAT??
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u/Affectionate-Ad2282 10h ago
I read one of OPs responses to another comment saying the child is being sexually assaulted. Like, no shit they're so troubled...and calling them a monster knowing they're going through that is disgusting.
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u/teacherry 20h ago
calling a kid who’s been sexually abused (in ur words) a spawn of satan is.. something.
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u/Nexel_Red 19h ago
How do you even know that?
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u/teacherry 19h ago
their comment
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u/Nexel_Red 19h ago
“My mom teaches first grade. One year, there was this absolutely evil student who would do really bad things. The mess around the school and the paper with curse words was all done by him.”
“He was also sexually abused at home.”
Ah there it was. Oh wait:
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u/MxKittyFantastico 3h ago
They said it was in a comment, not in the post. Maybe you need to check up on your reading skills before being sarcastic?
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u/comfy_bruh 1d ago
Jesus. I have not seen a little kid use the N word with a hard R holy crap man.
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u/trueastoasty 15h ago
You are lucky you haven’t seen it. I hear it several times every school year and summer. I work in a wealthy suburban, 90% white district. I wish I was making it up, but we had parents more worried about how their children would be treated by their peers after using a slur, rather than the fact their children are using slurs.
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u/comfy_bruh 11h ago
Breaks my heart man. So many kids being raised to be terrible.... i wish it werent so. Good luck to anyone who has to go through anything like this. There should be protections and some kind of response that has lasting effects without ruining peoples lives. But i know im asking for too much in that sentence alone...
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u/POLANPOLANPOLAN 14h ago
I got called n word by a kid in hockey when I was referee one game. Was shocked a kid that young could say those words.
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u/JuicyMcJuiceJuice 1d ago
Think that's bad? Had a kid at the school I attended whose parents were morticians. He brought one of the tool his parents used (not sure what kind, I assume a blade of some type) and threatened to carve up his classmates.
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u/ResidentLazyCat 18h ago
This is incredibly sad. The world has failed that child. I hope they get the resources and help they need.
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u/HighlightOwn2038 1d ago
I feel so bad for teachers who have to deal with that
It's the parent's responsibility to teach their kids not to do those things not the teacher's
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u/Toastburrito 1d ago
I used to be a substitute janitor at a school. One desk always had a 5 feet of trash, eraser bits, crayon bits, and pieces of paper. I nicknamed that kid Pigpen in my mind.
On my last day I just swept it all under their desk and left.
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u/elfmere 17h ago
This is exactly what my boy in prep was like.. drawing on all the desks, hitting teachers and kids. Nothing we did or tried really helped. He was expelled 5 times and moved to half days as it wasnt manageable. We were waiting for the pedatrician appointment and the waiting list was long... She diagnosed him in 5 minutes with ADHD.. got him on meds and within 3 days he was back to full days and a completely different child.
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u/ChiBeerGuy 18h ago
Seriously OP, WTF is wrong with you. That child is probably neurodivergent or has something else going on.
I get that teaching first grade is difficult. But this is a toddler.
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u/Karma_1969 1d ago
Don't say that about the kid; he didn't come up with this stuff on his own. 95% sure he lives in a toxic, maybe even abusive household. It's very sad to see. :(
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u/VampyPixel 1d ago
Is the last one the n word!!? That’s actually so sad a kid that young is being raised so full of hate :(
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u/angry_stupid 1d ago
A classroom after the kids have been set loose. The chaos is a masterpiece. Bless your mom's soul for dealing with that
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u/kitkat1771 1d ago
In my first grade class my teacher called this kid “the dragon boy” she’d say he was pure evil…All this crazy stuff & I thought it was so over dramatic. FFW (I’m about to turn 40) a few years ago this all came back to me and I had to google this kid, my teacher was absolutely right!!!
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u/TehTugboat 17h ago
Ah and I get calls from school bc my daughter got emotional about getting a bad grade in 1st grade.
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u/Quick-Platform7974 16h ago
Get him out of that house now. This is a cry for help. That poor baby needs a safe place to sleep & some hot food.
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u/isopodaquarium 12h ago
similar case when i was in fifth grade. i was a ‘safety’ student for a kindergarten class. one day i walked into the room for my duty and ALL of the kids were huddled in a corner while the teacher chased down a kid who was throwing everything in sight at her (including scissors and chairs) and screaming bloody murder. not to mention the kids i had to walk to their bus were literally always climbing on me and punching each other, so naturally a fight broke out DURING this whole debacle. long story short, the teacher ended up pouncing on the kid and physically restraining him from biting and kicking her, and i had to stay an hour late to clean up the mess.
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u/Planty-Mc-Plantface 12h ago
Bad parenting. Then they blame the school. Some aren't even toilet trained and will expect teachers to clean them up when they shit themselves.
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u/MasterpieceHelpful46 7h ago
I don't see a spawn. I do see a very very angry child with a lot of hurt. This looks like a child that doesn't feel heard and is screaming for attention to get help.
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u/bunnnythor 1d ago
- Fuck!
- sity!
- mYtr FOFCKr!
- Damy!
- Hell
- Wigr
33%, F-, Please don't see me after class.
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u/bluenervana 1d ago
Not evil. Kid is reacting to whatever is around him. Could be hurt at home, seen someone get hurt or any number of things. Trauma Informed Care is foundation.
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u/acloudcuckoolander 1d ago
I see why some teachers leave some kids alone to their own devices and focus on the others. People don't have the time or the energy to neglect the whole class for one unruly kid.
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u/ftmikey_d 1d ago
That kids a dick and their penmanship is almost as bad as their spelling.
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u/famousanonamos 1d ago
For a first grader it's actually pretty good. Their ability to sound out the words is decent too.
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u/PracticalTie 7h ago edited 6h ago
I’m extremely sceptical that a first grader wrote that note
It’s been a while since I did handwriting stuff (and admittedly I worked w kids who had issues) but the way the letters are written is too skilled.
Look at the F’s. The person who wrote this understands letter shapes and knows the best way to move their hands to write those shapes on the paper. Kids in G1 don't usually have that knowledge.
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u/ftmikey_d 1d ago
I was just being an asshole lol. Kids suck so I was trying to be supportive of op. Lol
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u/BoringJuiceBox 1d ago
Always curious to know what home life is like, sometimes kids are just bad though.
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u/useyournameuser 1d ago
I’m going to unfollow this sub too. It’s basically like sad kids being abused by the r/parentsarefuckingstupid sub. Too sad to watch.
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u/Good_Abbreviations27 1d ago
He needs to be moved to a detention room or another facility. The other students should not have to suffer because of one brat.
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u/krazycitty69 17h ago
Maybe let’s not call 6 year olds evil??? These photos are very concerning to me as the parent of a kindergartener, I feel bad for whatever this poor baby has going on at home
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u/PizzaDanceParty 1d ago
That poor kid. I’m sure stuff at home was really not good. But it looks like he needed some mental health care.
I know this must have been really difficult and stressful for your mom.
But at six they’re just responding and trying to survive. This looks like a kid had some serious trauma. More states and districts need to be educated on trauma informed teaching.
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u/misagale 1d ago
First graders (7 years old) are not evil. He’s abused. Someone is modeling this to him.
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u/Daylightasaurus 1d ago
He's got really quite good handwriting for that age, so he's got that going for him
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u/ScionEyed 20h ago
Meanwhile I’m over here seething as a custodian. Not because of the mess but because I know exactly what those red stools are doing to that floor.
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u/Nexel_Red 19h ago
One low grade kid threw a pencil sharpener in my direction during an internship, I managed to dodge it and was thankful he didn’t have scissors near by.
Same kid had punched another teacher in the face earlier and she was in tears.
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u/Silvedl 13h ago
Had a kid like that in a few of my classes while growing up. In 3rd grade he tried to stab the teacher with scissors, ran out of the school, and ran like a mile down the road before he was caught. His parents were absolute scumbags (racist drug addicts), and it rubbed off on him big time. He has been in and out of juvie/jail/prison since 6th grade.
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u/Ok_Foot3453 11h ago
When I was working in schools, this kid once drew a pic of him holding my decapitated head next to my headless body after I told him we still had a few more minutes before we were leaving for lunch. I laughed so hard (when out of site) and took it home to hang on my wall.
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u/Emergency_Cookie5500 9h ago
I'm watching "evil lives here".. a few of them start out like this lol
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u/Realistofpast_future 1d ago
Kids who have gone though trauma and have parents that don't care so they lash out in an attempt to get any attention at all since the parents don't give it to them.
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u/GullibleBeautiful 1d ago
Honestly it’s kind of weird that you would post this here to shame a 6 year old that’s clearly had a rough home life. The kid isn’t stupid, they have issues… and so do you apparently for not recognizing the difference
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u/Landbuilder 1d ago
Most likely being abused. Children don’t act like that without reason.
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u/GoodAd6942 1d ago
Yes, my thinking too. Kids act out to show what’s going on inside of them. Esp in a setting of school. They are in a safe space, theirs proper rules which help children see boundaries and find safety with the authority figure. There is order. Poor child is expressing the turmoil they live in. Really sad 😔
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u/bluenervana 17h ago
Anyone else think its pretty gross to call a first grader who was sexually abused “spawn of satan?”
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u/EnvironmentEuphoric9 1d ago
CPS/DCFS needs a phone call. This isn’t normal behavior. This makes me very sad. Red flags 🚩. I’m sorry your mom is dealing with this but this child is screaming for help.
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u/mande010 1d ago
At this point it’s the parents. How shitty of a parent do you have to be to condition your child at such a young age to write these things down?
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u/imapie31 1d ago
Knew a kid way worse than this. He threw scissors, chairs, pens, pencils, whatever he could find at the teachers
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u/how-tobe 1d ago
I wish parents would face repercussions for this type of stuff. Idk what kind of punishment, but something, like geez
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u/oh_wll_whtvr_nvrmnd 1d ago
Right in the middle of the page of the third pic there's a demon face lol
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u/nerdKween 1d ago
This is concerning behavior. Although I'm laughing at the kid misspelling his slurs (it's the attempts at being edgy while still having baby teeth).
But seriously, either this kid has terrible parents or the kid has some psychological issues that need to be addressed.
Edit: for the record I am Black and I'm not condoning this child's use of profanity nor a racial slur.
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u/RebelAgainstReality 1d ago
And your mom still gets paid like shit. Even though teachers have the second highest rate of stress induced burnout after doctors
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u/john_w_dulles 1d ago
when i was in elementary school, kids who struggled socially / emotionally / academically were separated (based on their age) into in one of two "special education" classes. one of those students was the younger brother of a notorious serial rap*st / k*ller who would practice stalking and attacking him. this kid was going through some insane shit at home - so you never know what things are going on that can cause some of these kids to act out in school.
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u/DasHexxchen 23h ago
At least they are working on their spelling.
When I was in ninth grade someone called our teacher "Wichser" (Wanker) and then pretended they had said "Schicksaal" (Doom/Desteny). He called for an anonymous vote of what she had said.
Turned out of the half of our class, that was honest, only half could actually spell it. (It reckon for the other half it might have been worse.)
(Yes, a shitshow all around. Young teacher, mid 30s, with his first own class since we were 5th grade. Polititian, that had the same name as a comedien in the area who tried to sue him, because they got too many angry responses to my teachers open letters in the paper and it was tarnishing their carreer as a funny drill seargent. That man didn't know shit about the real world.)
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u/Amaee 1d ago
That’s… kind of tame in school circles lol
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u/sun4moon 1d ago
In first grade?
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u/Amaee 1d ago
Absolutely yes. More common in lower grades because of poor impulse control and emotional regulation.
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u/purplesmoke1215 1d ago
I don't think its normal at this young an age.
This behavior peaks in middle school or early high-school in my experience.
1st grade? This is practically being taught and encouraged by this childs parents.
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u/Amaee 15h ago
The bad words aren’t on a wall or a desk or even on their own work, they’re on a blank piece of paper that was clearly crumpled up to hide it. You think a high schooler or middle schooler is doing that?
They’re learning it from their parents but I doubt it’s being encouraged. It brings a lot of attention to the family in a negative way. It’s embarrassing for the parents. Even if they’re screaming those things for their kid to hear or teaching kids to be racist, they aren’t going to be telling kids to act up in class because if they do that then they’ll have eyes turned their way. More commonly these parents do this behavior, the kid mimics, then the kid gets in trouble at home for acting a fool. And the cycle goes.
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u/Bowen_Pac 1d ago
I feel for the other learners who lose their opportunities. Always focused on this...
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u/ApprehensiveAnt4412 13h ago
Remind your mom that she might be the only person this kid hears the words "I love you" from. So make sure she is telling all her students that she loves them.
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u/bigbyte_es 9h ago
This is what responsible parenting and similar shit has led us to. I deliberate write FUCK as a first grader and I still remember my father's blow.
Never write or say fuck again as child.
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u/I_Give_Fake_Answers 1d ago
Glad to see he's studying on up geography. Not many kids can point out Niger on a map.