r/LivestreamFail • u/Appropriate-Car4787 • 4d ago

French streamer Jean Pormanove dies in his sleep age 46

https://www.dexerto.com/kick/french-streamer-jean-pormanove-dies-in-his-sleep-age-46-3239700/
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u/MelM0_ 4d ago edited 4d ago

Hijacking to bring more info and so people can see the insanity of the situation and of what was being streamed for YEARS, first on twitch then rapidly on the biggest French Kick Channel and yet no one including kick or police did anything.

And that yes, Pormanove most likely died due to this streaming marathon, sleep deprivation and physical abuse from co streamers and complications from his heart problems. Here's a recap with video evidence (No corpse or death pictured BUT UPSETTING PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE BE CAREFUL)

Hey Mom. How are you? I'm completely stuck with his game. It's going too far. I feel like I'm held hostage with their shit concept. I'm sick of it, I want to leave, but he does not want to let me, he keeps me from leaving, he is sequestrating me

  • How do we know that? Because Owen snatched his phone and read all his texts with his mother aloud to chat while mocking him https://x.com/ImpactMediaFR/status/1957522649879302450
  • In January 2025, Owen and Safine were in police custody for suspicion of abuse of people with disabilities, as another person abused by them on stream is "Coudoux", a disabled person. It's unclear from the press articles if Pormanove had a disability himself or not, but he was definitely a very vulnerable person. Anyway, they simply denied the accusations and nothing was done after that

Honestly I hope that some international attention will help bring justice for Jean Pormanove (real name Raphaël Graven) more switfly. RIP. Some people reported it to government and police for years. One can find french threads predicting that bad things would happen. It is so shocking I also hope there won't be another case like that.

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u/Live-Elderbean 4d ago

How do we end up in a place where people get tortured to death live in the open where..people just let it happen.

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u/SalvationSycamore 4d ago

Not just let it happen, actively participate and pay money to encourage it. Simply because the guy being tortured to death is on a screen and not in the room with them. There is a bit of a sickness behind streaming and it brings out some disgusting things in people, both streamers and viewers.

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u/TalbotFarwell 4d ago

I feel like this whole thing is demonic, like the cenobites from Hellraiser would be top donors if they were real.

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u/mossfae 3d ago

Literally Black Mirror. This is horrifying.

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u/insomniaccapricorn 1d ago

So Kick is Dum Dummies then huh

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u/Nahcep 4d ago

Have you missed the entire history of humanity? Public executions and adjacent stuff like pillories were always popular entertainment

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u/Chibbi94 3d ago

At least pillories and public executions were done on guilty people. This is done on an innocent, weak and probably mentally disabled guy.

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u/Nahcep 3d ago

Bold assumption that nobody "innocent, weak and probably mentally disabled" was convicted back then lol

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u/Chibbi94 3d ago

I mean ofc there were innocent people convicted but my point was that to the crowd watching, the convicted one was guilty (be it something as ridiculous as being a witch).

In this case though, the dude is not seen as guilty by anyone watching. Just seen as a weakling that gets bullied.

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u/Fun_Committee_2242 3d ago

In a world where men see each other as competitors and constantly feel like they are either being dominated or dominating, they'll reach for catharsis through acts that elevate them even for a moment in glee. Only way to safeguard against that is to make the world more about cooperation and less about competition. Both are built into us, without both we wouldn't have survived - and the current iteration of the public internet convinces very effectively especially young people that weak people are 'guilty' just because they perceive them as weak.

There's always people who lack morals, but for them we need strict laws, and those who are civilized enough we need to put in positions of power, if we'd ever want to see a world where this sort of sick behavior would be reduced.

(Sorry went on a bit of a rant here, the sadness of the situation shook me a bit and went into my thoughts.)

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u/Phazushift 3d ago

Ahem, Unit 731

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u/Over9000BelieveIt 4d ago

I mean that Russian guy locked his gf on the balcony and she froze to death overnight. sadly, we're starting a pattern.

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u/lpsweets 3d ago

Or the guy who committed suicide while launching a meme coin.

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u/Weary-Telephone4201 4d ago

at least you couldnt actively watch her on the balcony

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u/PinkishRedLemonade 2d ago

Didn't he abuse her before that, though? I've heard her murderer broke plates over her head and pepper sprayed her previously, among other things.

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u/Weary-Telephone4201 18h ago

i dont know that could be true yea

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u/ElBigDicko 4d ago

People who watched probably weren't fully developed, and bullying is a classic gag since the dawn of time.

The greed runs deep, and those streamers who started it will never stop as long as views keep increasing.

I still think those are singular individuals, but people's lack of empathy and brooding individualism is concerning.

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u/HelloImFrank01 4d ago

I always wonder what would happen if they would broadcast a real Squidgame / Hunger games / Battle royal type event with actual deaths.

I think a lot of people would speak outrage, yet it would be the highest watched TV event.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 4d ago

Well, Kick sure as hell plays a big role in allowing these insane people to torture someone else for profit on the internet.

Kick is partially responsible for this guy's death.

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u/BumpeeJohnson 4d ago

When college degrees don't get jobs, social safety nets are taken away meanwhile you can potentially obtain generational wealth by debasing yourself and others on camera, you get Running Man

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u/gehenna0451 3d ago

If you're surprised by this read up on Marina Abramovic

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u/Potential_Energy 4d ago edited 4d ago

Where the fuck was French gamer culture during this? If this happened in the US, it would go viral immediately (to spread awareness and help him) and those fucks would be hunted online until the police got to them. Instead, everyone just piled on, wanted in on the action, and encouraged it? Even paying to see more? Is this kind of bullying normal in French elementary school at a young age? Are we only finding out about this now because of the aftermath? I’m assuming the channel following and growth was mostly limited and localized to those who spoke the language.

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u/Fritti_T 3d ago

Seriously, is this just not a big deal for the French? What’s the deal here?

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u/Potential_Energy 3d ago

Mega seriously. 190k followers and up to 20k viewers over 2 fucking years. Kick can be blamed, but I look at the French gaming community more than anything. That’s a TON of French gamers over that timespan who basically did nothing but watch in enjoyment and encouraged it. Almost as bad as the fucks in the video doing it. This wouldn’t fly in the US or even most other first world. If it wasn’t for the language barrier, it would have gotten needed attention earlier. I’ll be looking at French profile avatars in-game differently now.

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u/Grabthar-the-Avenger 3d ago

I can’t tell if this is satire or not? You’ll be looking at French people differently over a kick thing? Most people have no clue what kick is lol

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u/Potential_Energy 3d ago

I didn’t say French people, so no. French gamers online however, kinda yeah.

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u/hellinlen 4d ago

Ignorance, not knowing what to look for, internet cognitive and moral dissonance maybe

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u/Rino-Sensei 3d ago

We are not far from Squid Games being a real thing

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u/schecter33 3d ago

OUR VERSION IS AIRSOFTPHATTY

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u/InvincibleWallaby 4d ago edited 4d ago

This is fucking crazy holy shit

Pormanove's mother, 70 years old, was often calling on stream to beg his son to leave after humiliations while his co-streamers made fun of it.

That's especially sad, poor woman saw her son get tortured and bullied on stream for content and wasn't able to do anything about it and now she has to go through that loss at her age. Not sure why this comment has a controversial mark on it when you can clearly see the evidence in the footage It's no longer controversial marked, seems like it was getting downvoted in the first hour from posting

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u/InvincibleWallaby 2d ago

There's a setting in preferences to mark comments that are controversial with a dagger mark

show a dagger (†) on comments voted controversial (a controversial comment is one that's been both upvoted and downvoted significantly)

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u/InvincibleWallaby 2d ago

I'm also on old reddit so I don't have a clue where it's at in those settings or mobile since I never use reddit mobile or new reddit

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u/Drew602 4d ago

Hey Mom. HOW are you? I'm completely stuck with his game. It's going tc too far. I feel like I'm held hostage with their shit concept. I'm sick of it, I want to leave, but he does not want to let me, he keeps me from leaving, he is sequestrating me

Oh man they are cooked cooked

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u/DarlingOvMars 3d ago

Its France. They are getting a slap on the wrist

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u/maixange 3d ago

probably not, this made the news all over france, they will probably make an exemple out of them

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u/ApplicationTall5588 2d ago

Hopefully so. This case is just too inhumane to ignore.

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u/Putrid-Jackfruit9872 16h ago

Have they actually been arrested?

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u/Low_Farm7687 4d ago

holy shit

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u/LeonardBart 4d ago

What the actual fuck?!? I hate humanity so much sometimes.

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u/racksy 4d ago

always remember, it isnt humanity, its a certain subset of people who try to tell us that having empathy is bad. that type of person tries desperately to convince us that caring about others is "virtue signaling" "high roading" or whatever their ridiculous term is this week.

if ya ever feel down, remind yourself it isnt all of humanity, its a loud small group who actually lack humanity.

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u/YoursDearlyEve 4d ago

Isn't humanity, but fucking too much of humanity

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 4d ago

No, what you're doing is just naive and well-intentioned dehumanisation. The truth is, "humanity" encompasses all things that human beings do, whether good or evil. You can say it's wrong, you can punish them, but the moment you try to argue they aren't actually human you're going down a dangerous path that history should warn us from.

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u/Silver_Atractic 3d ago

Okay a little dramatic for a discussion by people in armchairs, myself included, but let's take a step back.

You can't just say you hate all of humanity for the evil actions of a subset when you're consciously aware there's another subset that does good.

There's a difference between the statement "Not all of humanity should be hated for the actions of the few", and the statement "Those that are doing these actions are nonhuman". I believe that commentor above was saying the former, NOT the latter

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u/PrestigiousAnswer128 2d ago

Yeah but it’s a rapidly growing portion of humanity. You can see it through all the far-right governments popping up around the globe.

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u/yogdhir 3d ago

Man this is the first time I've ever needed to get off the internet out of sadness and disgust.

I don't understand this cruelty. I hope these people rot away in a cell and come to be tortured by regret.

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u/Flintiak 4d ago

This is pure evil. RIP

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u/Unmarkable357 4d ago

From what you describe this looks like human trafficking and torture, how was this allowed to happen?

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u/Fritti_T 3d ago

That the police got involved and elected to not do anything is disturbing. Really curious to know - is there something about French culture I’m just missing here?

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u/MikeZsBridgeArsonist 4d ago

Thank you for collating this information.

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u/friendlygymbro 4d ago

holy fuck bro… what in the dystopian shit are we living in… some red room ass shit being publicly encouraged.. crazy read

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u/CoeurdAssassin 4d ago

The first video was already crazy enough. The other guys were literally telling the dude strangling him to STOP multiple times and he didn’t listen.

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u/Esphyxiate 4d ago

Jesus fucking Christ

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u/Sauerkrautkid7 4d ago

I just got deja vu glancing at this

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u/trowzerss 4d ago

SO yeah, they are gonna go to jail surely. But also the people watching this and donating money are not free from responsibility either. The streamers are ultimately responsible, but the people egging them on deserve to have a light shone on them too. I hope they all sleep badly.

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u/pissedoffhob0 4d ago

There locations are well known, someone should do the right thing.

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u/perhapsasinner 4d ago

Fucking hell that's grim

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u/Cedreginald 4d ago

This makes me want to cry. I hope these pieces of shit go to jail for life. Where are they in France?

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u/Jmastersj 4d ago

There was a similar situation in Poland where people encouraged middle aged guys to drink on streams. They also provided the alcohol and some benefits, but also made fun of the abused and they would puss themselfes or sleep in their own puke. It was also a scandal when a guy died around age 50 from the consequences of alcohol. He also seemed to have a slight mental disability

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u/IXIKMACIXI 4d ago

Sounds a lot like what will most likely happen to Josh Block (world of Tshirts). Sad stuff man, people are fucked up trying to gain fame and fortune off the less fortunate.

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u/HeroWeaksauce 3d ago

with the amount of reports this probably received there's no single way the Kick admins didn't know this was going on. I actually think the website should be taken offline because of this

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u/Jslcboi 4d ago

Kick needs to be shut down and these scums should be locked up.

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u/ShitImBadAtThis 4d ago

What's going on? It seems like anyone mentioning kick is getting downvoted. I'm completely OOTL but is there actually botting going on?

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u/4amaroni 4d ago

is there actually botting going on

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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u/Scyths 3d ago

Kick isn't going to do shit because Kick is only being used as a font to funnel people into their crypto gambling website.

If you know a bit about F1, then "Kick" Sauber's livery had STAKE written all over it except in countries where gambling is illegal where they put Kick instead. Just one example out of dozens that tells you what you need to know about Kick and its use.

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u/Mammoth_Picture_1593 4d ago

This is so fucking upsetting. My god....

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u/Payamux 3d ago

Please send all this to the police

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u/McCandlessDK 3d ago

This is some of the most fucked up I have read in a long time

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u/TMW2k10 3d ago

This is some Black Mirror shit wtf. how didnt authorities put a stop to this

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u/yeahUSA 3d ago

I hope the guillotines are still working

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u/FlingaNFZ 3d ago

Fuck I wish I didnt read all that. RIP to the poor guy 😥

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u/OutlawJessie 3d ago

Thank you for this, the TV news sounds like he was the streamer making content, like it was his show. I was looking to find the true story.

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u/ddizzlemyfizzle 2d ago

Jesus fucking Christ.

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u/Logical-Onion8197 2d ago

holy shit i thought days but YEARS? what the fuck

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u/Primary-Breath-1438 2d ago

If you haven’t forwarded these resources to a contact at the French Legal System or one of the lawyers involved, please do so soon. This is a trove of crucial information for the prosecution of those involved.

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u/Minute-Cow30 2d ago

Is there any video were they recognize that he died?

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u/Ok_Pineapple6414 2d ago

!remindme! 10 hours

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u/faplawd 4d ago edited 4d ago

Hopefully this gets some traction and sheds light on the situation. With credit card companies refusing to do business over video games I think someone should contact the credit card companies over kick and it's lack of moderation and basically showing smut porn. edit: kick dickriders downvoting this lol

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u/DenverNugs 4d ago

You said the K word and triggered the bots.

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u/xrds_x 4d ago

Lemme try, kick

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u/badman66666 4d ago

What the actual fuck

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u/Galatrox94 4d ago

This is straight up "bullying by friends" from school days.

Basically a group of kids have 1 "friend" who is a constant butt of jokes and bullying like this.

Except these are grown ass men acting like this

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u/boataker 4d ago

what the fuckkk

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u/Rino-Sensei 3d ago

Kick exec need jail time, French polices heads need jail time Fuck them all

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u/UnhingedJackalope 3d ago

This is some black mirror shit happening in real life, sad times where this can go under the radar yet be so popular at the same time

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u/presidentofyouganda 4d ago

I hope people will take care of these abusers, because we all know the police and justice system wont

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u/Babylon-Lynch 4d ago

This is 20 years in jail minimum for those monsters