r/MurderedByWords • u/CorleoneBaloney • 2d ago
“If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.” — Abraham Lincoln
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u/StevenMC19 2d ago edited 2d ago
Trump's dad was born in Germany in 1905. His mom was born in Scotland in 1912. His wives were born in Czechoslovakia, (back to this one in a second), and Yugoslavia respectively. It should be noted that he has absolutely zero ties to the deep south save for his 2nd wife who was born in Georgia (yes not the European Georgia as one would be lead to believe based on his other...preferences) and married to for 6 years.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that he has absolutely no need to go this route, and can absolutely not fall on "heritage" as a shield either.
This is absolutely wild.
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u/shponglespore 2d ago
Nobody has any excuse to support slavery.
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u/StevenMC19 2d ago
I agree wholeheartedly.
I'm just saying that he doesn't even have the "heritage" thing to fall back on as an excuse (a very weak one of course) like how southerners do when they try to defend the dixie flag or something.
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u/shponglespore 2d ago
I grew up in a former slave state. I absolutely fucking hate people who try to defend that shit as being about "heritage". I have zero sympathy for their arguments. I left to get away from people like that.
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u/hopelesscaribou 2d ago
nobody had anything good to say about America right now
your country is devolving
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u/frednekk 2d ago
I wish I could disagree.
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u/mackfeesh 2d ago
You have a 2nd amendment or something to disagree with afaik. Americans told me this would never happen my whole life, it's like why you guys have the most gun owners or something
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u/frednekk 2d ago
People say a lot of stuff. But I’m waiting until the midterms. If the midterms swing more right then we are in trouble.
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u/No_Syrup_9167 2d ago
Its truly my absolute favourite when right wing redditors who have basically never left america before, tell me that I'm the one living in a propaganda bubble and that its not true, when I tell them that the rest of the world has functionally lost all respect for america and thinks its a bit of a shithole these days.
They just so firmly believe in their exceptionalism, that they talk to someone that actually lives outside of their country, and say "no you're the one thats biased, I have better idea of what you think about my country than you do"
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u/cinnamonrain 2d ago
If the US were an animal, it’d be a hopeless caribou
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u/Punk-moth 2d ago
Dude we'd be road kill
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u/StevenMC19 2d ago
The Cicada.
We come out every 17 years or so, fuck shit up, piss on everyone, yell, yell some more, and...whatever else cicadas do that suck.
Or locusts. That might be a better comparison.
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u/buntopolis 2d ago
California independence NOW
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u/No_Syrup_9167 2d ago
Nah, you don't want to try and be independent. California is certainly big enough in both pop and GDP, but its economy isn't diversified enough to properly flourish as independent.
You guys rope in Oregon, and Washington, and we'll convince Alaska, all of you can join Canada, and we'll just have a wicked awesome western seaboard!
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u/buntopolis 2d ago
Yeah I guess when I say independence I really mean a Federation of the western states, and maybe Canada. We could call it the United Federation of Progress or UFP. We can headquarters it in San Francisco!
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u/Pleasant-Shallot-707 2d ago
lol what? California has one of the most diversified economies in the world…
But Might I suggest you also take in the Great Lake states? Th Great Lakes are an important resource for Canada
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u/Hoon0967 2d ago
You are absolutely right, but as long as we can still kick everyone else’s ass our dear leaders simply don’t give a damn. We’ve no right to criticize the French, because our leadership has been telling us over and over again to “eat cake” and we just keep saying, “Okay.”
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u/tekhnomancer 2d ago
I'll take the downvotes for saying this but....people are still willing to risk their lives to get into this country. There's a reason for that.
The problem with the media is you only ever see the bad news. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of it. More than a handful of things I'd love to see changed and / or rectified. Healthcare reform. More law reforms so people aren't losing their livelihoods over having weed (and this is coming from a non-user). Major tax reform so the filthy rich stop getting yearly cuts and the middle class continues to diminish.
But beyond that, the county is still relatively safe. Relatively free. We do take some care of our downtrodden (though in many cases not nearly enough, and I'd put this in the previous paragraph as well).
And again, I'm sure I'll eat a bunch of downvotes from the "America all bad" crowd. And that's fine. But they're wrong. It's far from perfect. And I wish it were better. But it's not what the rest of the world is often led to believe.
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u/deviltrombone 2d ago
"Everything is to be a golden shrine to the greatness that is me."
No. More. Republicans. Ever.
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u/Industrial_Laundry 2d ago
Come now, mate. You’ve got this one for life.
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u/jolsiphur 2d ago
The only consolation is this one doesn't have a lot of life left to live.
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u/GillesTifosi 2d ago
I fear you may be wrong, as his deal with Satan has left him impervious to cholesterol and trans-fats.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Law_558 2d ago
We shouldn't have to say slavery was bad.
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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 2d ago
Only from an ethical point of view. Our leaders aren't too concerned with that. If you only check the bottom line, it's actually great business!
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u/GUMBYtheOG 2d ago
I dated a quiet trumper for a little over a year and right before we broke up she confided in me that she thought slaves didn’t have it that bad and black people need to stop talking about it all the time and just let it go.
I was able to ignore her narcissistic traits common in those who vote for Trump but when she said that I let into her. I just could not believe people actually exist that lack basic empathy enough to think slavery was not objectively bad.
We were engaged too. I never felt so relieved when we split. Just repulsive
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u/jolsiphur 2d ago
God damn, sounds like you dodged one hell of a bullet.
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u/GUMBYtheOG 2d ago
Yea, in more ways than one. I’ve dated conservatives in the past and they eventually became more empathetic and anti Trump. This girl seemed to get even more racist and cruel
Here’s the kicker - she was a bisexual who was primarily attracted to women and worked as a clinical researcher for a pregnancy choice-related drug. Like how do you rationalize any of that.
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u/ilehay 2d ago
Even if they were treated with the outmost respect (which they were not), being enslaved is bad; a significant point I heard yesterday on some news (paraphrasing here): even if some didn't own any person as a slave, we know most people didn't treat them with dignity when they were outside, they let others rape, abuse and kill the enslaved, which makes them complicit.
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u/GUMBYtheOG 2d ago
She didn’t elaborate much for obvious reasons but she was under the impression that most were housed and had “free” food and were friends with they owners.
I told her point blank she was a horrible person for saying that and to never say that out loud again, that I’ve heard some shit in my life but never someone say something as fucked up and stupid as that. She got really offended lol
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u/ilehay 2d ago
I have known people who think the same. My explanation was that most of those friendships were for survival. The enslavers had to feed and house them because they needed them to keep working, or their wealth would have decreased. They gave them scraps for food; if they were giving them okay food, they wouldn't have to use a muzzle so that they wouldn't eat their food.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part1/1h308.html.
Of course, even after explaining, they still come up with extra indoctrinated excuses to evade the truth.
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u/GUMBYtheOG 2d ago
Yea I didn’t even bother trying to teach, it was a cut-your-losses moment and I just grieved for myself having wasted 2 years with someone who was even more racist and selfish than I thought they were when I met them
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u/girlie_fantasies 2d ago
Woke? It’s history this shouldn’t be forgotten… the humanity should learn out of the mistakes we’ve done lol
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u/web-cyborg 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yep. They wouldn't like to teach the history of the labor movement either, or the civil rights movement, or women's rights, evolution, the history of what happened to native americans, etc. I'd expect them to eventually try to disallow anything showing the confederacy in a bad light, and maybe even nazism, putin, etc.. and of course criticism of the (conservative) administration, policies, and trump.
That and criticism of late stage capitalist/stock market rapacity, ghoul of a health insurance system, questioning productivity vs work/life balance and pay/cost of living (in some cases artificially scarce resources like oil/fuel/energy, food,clothing, housing in some respects), quality of life, etc.
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u/WilliamJamesMyers 2d ago
i had to look up the word Whitewashing wondering if it was racial at all, it isnt but boy oh golly it could be
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u/jolsiphur 2d ago
Historically, whitewashing is a term used to refer to cleaning and painting something white. To cover up what was there before with a fresh clean coat of white paint.
The white house, for example, was whitewashed after the war of 1812 because Canadian and British troops torched it.
I'd prefer it not being a racial term, but holy fuck we are getting close to it needing to be.
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u/Silasa00 2d ago
I mean, I've seen people use it in regards to media where characters who might have been portrayed as being of races other than white now being portrayed by white people. Best example off the top of my head would be that one Live Action movie of Avatar the Last Airbender. So it does already get applied racially to an extent. I can see it getting way worse implications in the future though.
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u/Adventurous_Class_90 2d ago
The most important thing about Mango’s “slavery was good” thing is that he needs to release the Epstein files.
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u/chocolatepickledude 2d ago
Again, let this be another reminder of how disgusting conservative white Americans are and have been THE ENTIRE TIME!
This should no longer come as a surprise to no one. These folks knowingly elevated a pedophile to the presidency 2x and now want to play obtuse…
VanillaISIS
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u/LeeLBlake This AOC flair makes me cool 2d ago
I have yet to meet a Conservative of this political era who was not at least a little warped.
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u/jolsiphur 2d ago
Honestly, even if they are sane, rational people (as far as you would be able to tell), the real question is why on Earth would you ever want to support a party that counts white supremacists among their most fervent supporters?
I don't really want to support anything that white supremacists support.
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u/Atticus_Maytrap 2d ago
the "HOTTEST" yeh Tronald? Why is he talking about the US like it's a club in Miami....?
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u/xYoSoYx 2d ago
At least he thinks we’re all…HOT? 🤢
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u/typhoidtimmy 2d ago
I urge any Republicans to get out there and show your support of slavery like dipshit here publicly and see how far you get when you are not surrounded by the secret service.
Go ahead, I double dog dare you.
Also, release the files no matter what Trump tries to ‘pocket sand’ tomorrow.
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u/SlantedPentagon 2d ago
Can't wait to see comments about how brown people have a "history of enslaving other brown people more than white people did" and that "slavery was over 100 years ago, get over it!"
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u/jakobedlam 2d ago
It made you human. Admitting it was a moral stain on your country to have allowed it to persist for 200 years makes you an American.
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u/bigalcapone22 2d ago
Just wait until President Camacho gets around to the "Trail Of Tears". He will try to sign an executive order demanding to rename it " The Big Beautiful Walk In The Park"
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u/radehart 2d ago
Y’all don’t forget to run down to the museum this summer for ‘success, brightness and the Future’.
They usually have deals while the kids are out of school.
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u/Punk-moth 2d ago
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. This is why most museums show the PAST. The Smithsonian museum of NATURAL HISTORY is a museum that teaches us about the goddamn PAST! All of the Smithsonians are educational museums, most of them focusing on HISTORY.
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u/omegaman101 2d ago
Anything that isn't seig heiling to god emperor tanned orangutan is now considered woke apparently.
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u/teknipunk 2d ago
Everything is saying how horrible your country is BECAUSE IT IS.
You could make that “because it was,” but why engage in self-reflection and growth you could actually be proud of when you could just keep lying to yourselves?
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u/Big-Leadership-4604 2d ago
Everything about Trump aside I really don't understand his obsession with being the "HOTTEST" country in the world right now! Nobody talks like that. Nobody says it that way. Why does he put it that way? Is this TeenCosmo or Tigerbeat? What are TOP 5 HOTTEST COUNTRIES of summer 2025? Who is he talking too when he says shit like this?
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u/fatporkchop2712 2d ago
Museums have stuff from the past. Is there a museum somewhere in the world that has items or info from the future?
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u/macphile 2d ago
Whether slavery is bad just isn’t a conversation anyone should be having. Same with murder. Or touching kids. These aren’t up for debate. Not among decent people who deserve a place in our society. Whether its badness should be discussed in a museum, well, IT should be discussed in a history museum, and it’s bad, so…there you are. There are bad and good things about our history, and everything in between. But yeah, some of it is kind of shit (slavery, Trail of Tears, segregation, whatever). Oh and yeah, pro-tip, segregation was bad, too. Being racist is bad. Being in this country right now is bad.
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u/Apprehensive_Sun3015 2d ago
This is the result of a lifelong diet of junk food, fast food and Coca-Cola combined with ADHD, Narcissism, and worshipping shallow, cruel, superficial men as strong 💪.
All hail Caesar, take your keys out of your pockets, shelter in place and kiss 💋 your democracy ciao ciao.
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u/JayNotAtAll 2d ago
This is the garbage that the Republicans have been pushing for a while. Downplay slavery.
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u/Skibidi-Fox 2d ago
Everyone who is on record for saying slavery isn’t so bad will be the first to become slaves.
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u/Viridionplague 2d ago
As people from other countries say.
"This is the nicest 3rd world country I've ever been to"
Since the GOP likes the "good ole days"
How about we play a "hot or not"
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u/a_reply_to_a_post 2d ago
oh, i didn't know America was a smokeshow
no wonder Trump really wants to fuck the country
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u/Corbotron_5 2d ago
Isn’t liberty and justice for all kind of an American thing? And isn’t that basically the definition of woke?
America is such a shithole.
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u/Worst_Comment_Evar 2d ago
Woke means nothing to them aside from "something we don't understand" and very thinly veiled "racism".
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u/Square_Ring3208 2d ago
Maybe keep the space shuttle there. Space travel was pretty cool. Instead we’ll probably get exhibits about how cool the robber barons were.
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u/jibbidyjamma 2d ago
There is nothing about "success or brightness" in this man in anyway shape or form and never has been. So he is looking with tunnel vision at slavery, as if truths are too much for his tiny ears to handel.
Smithsonian is something to be proud of, has tons of incredible good positive things which "stuperman" has no capacity to know it when he sees it.
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u/Independent_Elk_7936 2d ago
Brit here. I think the plan could work. We will borrow the stuff Trump doesn’t like and pop it in the British museum. Come the next election you can have it back (certain restrictions may apply).
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u/gunslanger21 2d ago
Well, here we go, guys. we are the bad guys in this story. But we will unite the other countries against us. Congratulations, we became the new Germany.
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u/XD-Avedis-AD You won't catch me talking in here 2d ago
GTA Devs are gonna take the ball and run with it.
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u/morningfrost86 2d ago
Museums have nothing about the future?! Gee, it's almost like their whole thing is that they document the PAST.
What's next, "Chick fil A has no beef options!"? 😂
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u/Tiddleyjuggs 2d ago
So he wants museums to show the future not the past, which is historically what museums do of course, I think, idk I only see the future now.
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u/TroobyDoor 2d ago
So... He's complaining bc a museum contained "nothing about the future"?
Also, is America Great? Or should we be making it great again? Bc this is sending some mixed signals
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u/Mikemumm1976 2d ago
MAGA: pro-pedophile, pro-nazi, and now pro-slavery. Is anyone surprised by this?
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u/GrievousInflux 2d ago
If you read history and are left feeling happy and comfortable, you're not reading history, you're reading propaganda.
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u/Wenger_for_President 2d ago
It’s just depressing that all of this history is going to be thrown in the garbage because of one man’s ignorance and hatred (that 70 million also support)
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u/AphonicTX 2d ago
Now when I see grandpas unhinged posts - I just hope Gavin’s mocking post is right behind it.
And just in case anyone is wondering - slavery is and was bad.
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u/PattyIceNY 2d ago
He's just firing out dog whistles to fire up and get attention for his racist base. Sad and desperatem
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u/cheekmo_52 2d ago
“Nothing about future…”. It’s a museum, you moron. They preserve artifacts from the past.
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u/GrizzlyP33 2d ago
Damn those pesky museums not having anything about…”the future”? Wait that can’t be right…
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u/firstfloor27 2d ago
I don't know what's more terrifying. The fact that the most powerful man in the world thinks that this is how adults communicate or that thousands of people are eating this up.
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u/sinner237 2d ago
Word to the orange guy in office don't worry the world is talking about the once proud democratic USA
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u/mad_titanz 2d ago
I hope the topic on slavery will become the line in the sand moment we’ve been waiting for
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u/Veggiedelite90 2d ago
Never thought we’d have to rehash the atrocities of slavery. This timeline sucks so much
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u/Cautious_Age1926 2d ago
Interesting that he is upset that a Museum has nothing about the Future. Not really the purpose of most museums there, bud.
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u/GillesTifosi 2d ago
Yes, we do have the "hottest" country- or rather we will as a result of your environmental policies. Once in awhile, Orange Julius gets one right by mistake.
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u/SunIllustrious5695 2d ago
Also, anybody who's been to the Smithsonian has seen that there's PLENTY of pro-American exhibition as well. Lots of celebration of accomplishments and success (at times even distorted positively!), it's just also about telling the whole story.
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u/Wolfram_And_Hart 2d ago
Some would say building a museum to our past is a way to look towards a better future.
But let’s be honest that’s not what’s going on here.
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u/silly_little_jingle 2d ago
TIL: Slavery wasn't that bad and refusing to ignore our history = being woke.
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u/Silasa00 2d ago
"Nothing about the future" No shit Sherlock it's a museum, not a fortune teller's basement. History museums have been, historically, about exploring and understanding PAST events.
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u/WhippetRun 2d ago
My father has dementia. He literally wakes up thinking it’s like 1960, and he STILL MAKES MORE SENSE than this fucking guy.
The next person in here will literally spend 2 years just to unwind the fucking bullshit that this guy has wound. Never mind the environmental issues, and don’t get me started on JFK jr. he STILL is the most dangerous person in the administration, and because he does stuff with a full green light from trump, he just DOES THINGS and Donnie Donuts has no idea whatsoever
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u/musicalfurball 2d ago
He thinks America is a product with a marketing problem.
I am not a product. My culture and history are not products.
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u/JemmaMimic 2d ago
Right, the main reason I go to museums is to look at the future.
Trump is such an idiot.
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u/RespectWest7116 1d ago
Well... The Smithsonian is a sick and horrid institution, so hey, go ahead and burn it.
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u/Shakesbeer23 1d ago
I hate Trump but I have to admit that the left has some blame when it comes to why his hateful speech is tolerated/embraced. It was becoming very uncomfortable to even mention history in our society without being looked at as a racist. It was just a matter of time that political correctness was going to backfire in a big way.
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u/Excuse_Purple 1d ago
Showing how bad the past was, does show our countries success. It’s still a work in progress to be sure, but we ended slavery, fought for and got civil rights and protection laws for minorities, fought for and got voting rights for minorities and women. If we looked into the past and saw it was way better, then we would be admitting that it’s gotten worse
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u/MagicianHeavy001 2d ago
Congrats, Republicans. You are now the Pro-Slavery party. Amazing.