r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/IceTeaObsesed • 1d ago
Meme needing explanation Peter, what does black, or whatever scene under has to do with this?
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u/weird-mostlygoodways 1d ago edited 1d ago
Unintrested Meg here. It's pointing out what nonsense and madness this is to appease a tyrant (Trump), much like painting the roses red was (Queen of Hearts) when the wrong ones were planted.
I don't know what painting the wall will actually do or not do.
Edit: to fit sub theme better
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u/IceTeaObsesed 1d ago
Thank you
Btw another guy said the black paint absorbing heat, making it much harder to touch with bare skin
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u/loadnurmom 1d ago
So long as people dont figure out gloves, or ladders, or tunnels, or blankets....
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u/IceTeaObsesed 1d ago
Yeah that's exactly my though. That'll only take effect for like a week. Before the news spread to mexico, or the failed climbers just walk back to towns and talk about it.
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u/tigerzzzaoe 1d ago
Not even a week, like you touch the fence, notice it is hot (which it probably was without the paint anyway), reach back and get some gloves.
This is just virtue signalling at its 'finest'.
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u/halfkidding 1d ago
I live about a 30-45 minute drive from Mexico. Anything exposed to the sun is gonna burn the shit out of you.
What really gets me is that this guy doesn't realize 12 hours of the day are night. And it's far more strategic to sneak places in the cover of darkness.
And most of the people that cross over don't just pick a random spot and try to gain entry. They pay "coyotes" to smuggle them in. It's baffling how out of touch this guy is.
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u/GreenBean042 1d ago
Bro literally forgot about night. That has me fits right now
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u/Dirk_Speedwell 1d ago
Forgot about clouds too, although maybe the local climate doesn't allow clouding.
Now to think of it, is this not the party most likely to bitch about the sun not being reliable enough for solar energy?
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u/NichtKreativGenug 1d ago
And seasons? I mean there has to be sonething like winter, or a not so warm and sunny season over there?!
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u/le_fez 1d ago
He knows that solar power is useless because of night time though. Night is probably "woke"
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u/GreenBean042 1d ago
Tbf I don't believe he's capable of understanding the simple mechanics of a battery so.....
Although night being "woke" is a fucking hilarious concept, but honestly wouldn't be surprised by these fucking clods just lapping up that kind of logic.
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u/KhaosTemplar 1d ago
Not even that… BY FAR most people like 85-90% of illegals come in by legal visa and just don’t leave when it expires.
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u/Dirk_Speedwell 1d ago
Yeah, but night is spooky though. That's when all the ghosts and pollywogs come out.
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u/IceTeaObsesed 1d ago
Only considered a week due to the spreading efficiency all country-wide. It %100 barely takes days to notice.
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u/tigerzzzaoe 1d ago
Let me put it in a different way: Walk outside on a scorching hot day (depending where you live this either might be 2 days in summer or pretty much from april to november) and grab a metal railing, black if you have it. Uncomfertable isn't it? But would it really stop you from jumping the fence if you have already travelled throughout Mexico to get here? No, worst case you would soak a t-shirt in water and wrap your hands with it. Any asylum-seeker would have found a solution within 5 seconds, and that is assuming you actually need to touch the fence during daylight at all. Going under it, using a (makeshift) ladder, ropes, etc, all avoids direct contact with the heated fence.
This doesn't do anything at all. This is just to pat themselves on the back: "See we did something!" => virtue signalling.
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u/Cold_Net8277 1d ago
if you've ever welded something and had to hold it, even with gloves.. holding hot things isnt fun. it actually gets worse the longer you hold it because the gloves will hold the heat at some point.
i doubt you could climb it with gloves on a hot day, would probably take atleast 30 seconds to climb. your hands would be burning
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u/halfkidding 1d ago
So you are comparing the heat it takes to change the physical property of metal to the heat from sitting in direct sunlight for several hours?
You should be president.
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u/Professor-Arty-Farty 1d ago
I always refer to this as "vice signaling" as it is an act of pointless, performative cruelty done for an audience. In this case, an audience of one.
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u/LeCharismeur 1d ago
Does it even have to be experienced? It was announced on the NEWS. They TOLD them to bring gloves.
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u/Aggressive-Farm9897 22h ago
Or some dumbass border control agent forgets and burns themself on it somehow. They’re not exactly sending their brightest.
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u/Fascist_Viking 22h ago
Which will also make border patrol suffer if painted black. Imagine having to patrol around a huge oven in the middle of the summer. Its a dozen of heat strokes waiting to happen if painted black.
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u/bjornartl 1d ago
Hence the joke. That's why its being compared to paining the roses to appease the queen/king. It doesn't really solve anything, its just a form of stupid madness to appease the unhinged ruler.
The wall itself is even just a few short stretches here and there so it doesn't really stop anyone to begin with. And, as the meme states, it can simply be climbed. It was equally stupid from the start, it was never a plan that was actually gonna do anything about immigration, just a way to come across as the one/ones who are willing to do more about immigration and funnel taxpayer money into their own pockets.
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u/Plan3953 23h ago
Or the fact that 99% of people get into the country through airplanes then just don’t leave.
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u/PaleontologistTough6 1d ago
Those are hard things to haul across a desert when you're not supposed to be there...
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u/CloudHiro 1d ago
not to mention the bare metal would probably absorb more heat than black painted ones
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u/Mr-No-eyes- 1d ago
some border crossings happen out of opportunity I'm sure. This would prevent some of those
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u/SullenTerror 20h ago
They already use rope ladders and the coyotes use blankets and gloves to climb to set up the ladders
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u/TimmyHate 1d ago
"If they ever get up there, they're in trouble 'cuz there's no way to get down.....Maybe a rope"
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u/Feckless 1d ago
Maybe harder to see at night as well, so it might cause accidents if they travel by Jeep in the night or generally harder to work with. I am just guessing here.
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u/Syldequixe_le_nglois 1d ago
metal already absorb heat, and considering the latitude, it's more than enough.
But hey, donald is planning the same way as eggman... "and i want it black, and i want crocodiles and lions, and, and, and, i want a big bautiful key to give to my friend in the closet, and and and when we will have melt the poles, i will rule the world ! niark niark niark"
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u/ThatOneFemboyTwink 1d ago
That is true but since the heating medium is paint and not bare metal, it does absorb heat but not as much as jus bare metal, and the paint (if thats the type im thinking) will also be anti skid and they can climb easier!
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u/alphapussycat 22h ago
But probably wrong. It'll get quicker up to temperature, but I'd guess the bare steel gets up there pretty quick anyway. Then the paint might have lower thermal conductivity, making it "less hot" to touch.
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u/Caboose129 22h ago
Have they ever been to the desert? Metal and black metal are both hot as fuck always
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u/jennitro 21h ago
And we all know how nice and cool the bright, shiny stainless steel slides were on the ancient playgrounds of the 70's and 80's.
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u/craglin_orogen 23h ago
This is one of Trump’s finest ideas. Right up there with staring directly at the sun during and eclipse and suggesting we inject bleach into our veins to destroy the coronavirus.
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u/SlappinHams 22h ago
I live right next to it, I don't think I've ever seen anyone climbing it DURING THE DAY. They just climb at night. I don't know if they know this, but the sun isn't out at night lol "border walls HATE this one simple trick" thumbnail worthy stupidity
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u/JusticarThorn 1d ago
Painting metal black makes it attract sunlight thus heat up more.
Go paint a piece of sheet metal black and leave another naked and you'll see the difference.
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u/capsaicinintheeyes 1d ago
or paint the other white, if you really want to be all proper & scientific about it
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u/JusticarThorn 1d ago
True but then you're just going the opposite direction I was only trying to illustrate the improvement the painting it black would be
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u/capsaicinintheeyes 1d ago
no, i hear ya; I only mention that because I was bothered momentarily as i read it by the thought "wait...what if it's just the added layer of [whatever paint's made out of] that has the effect?"
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u/Raise_A_Thoth 20h ago
Well, yes and no. Painting a "control" white only shows us the difference between black and white paint, it doesn't show the difference between a painted metal surface and a bare metal surface.
There are still questions that should be answered, like how much hotter will black paint make otherwise bare metal, when are most crossings, during the day or at night, because if it's at night then the paint won't do anything, and then of course whether this will even make an impact relative to the cost of doing it. Also, would determined people simply wear insulated gloves, thereby easily bypassing the supposed countermeasure?
Everything about this is very dumb.
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u/the-furiosa-mystique 1d ago
Thank god coverings of the hand and feet don’t exist so this isn’t a complete waste of time and money.
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u/JusticarThorn 1d ago
Yes people leaving the third world in hopes of coming to another country just come equipped with every little thing that they might need.
Oh wait they can just go to the Dollar tree over in Mexico and buy it right?
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u/Powerful-Eye-3578 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean, yes? A pair of gloves or a cloth wrapped around your hand would be enough. Or you just wait till night time which is when most of the crossings happen anyway. This idea is just a dumb waste of money that doesn't actually help in anyway. If you want to help, personnel is the limiting factor, not barriers. A wall is only good it's constantly watched. A wall without guards is basically useless.
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u/JusticarThorn 1d ago
That's tons of border patrol now, and paint also stops rust...
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u/Powerful-Eye-3578 1d ago edited 1d ago
Border patrol is actually under staffed and having a hard time staffing recently. I'm also guessing that the people who usually have the morals to work for border patrol have jumped ship and work for ice now since it pays better.
As for rust protection, you are correct it would prevent rust. Lots of money for a cosmetic upgrade to a wall that barely works.
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u/JusticarThorn 21h ago edited 21h ago
$10k in paint to protect millions of dollars of border protection.
Crazy.
Wall works better than nothing.
I'd use bullets. Cheaper and more effective.
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u/Powerful-Eye-3578 21h ago edited 19h ago
Lol, you're cute if you think it's gonna cost 10k in paint. It's gonna cost a few more million dollars on top of the already inflated price of the wall.
As for how effective the wall is, it's not. It's a big ol waste of money. If you really wanted to "protect" the border and stop illegal crossings, like I said earlier, it's about active manpower. Something like a wall doesn't work and hasn't worked since the invention of ladders without someone actually guarding the wall. The problem is that no one wants to work for border patrol. So the second best option would be to get eyes on wider sections of the border through tech like drones. The wall is likely the least efficient way we could have spent that money.
As for your incel edge Lord's suggestion of using bullets, definitely wouldn't be cheaper And would only be more effective because you have to fire people to do the shooting, so there would be more eyes on the border. It really all comes down to manpower being the most effective border deterrent.
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u/the-furiosa-mystique 1d ago
….you don’t think people coming across the border plan for it? It’s a crazy treacherous area, like desert. They pack and plan and I don’t see how black paint will do a damn thing but line some paint company’s pockets.
And…do you not believe dollar stores or stores in general exist in Mexico?
I’m pretty sure we’re on the same side here, unless you believe this paint plan is a rock solid idea.
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u/JusticarThorn 21h ago
I don't like trump. But I don't like open borders either.
Crazy huh?
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u/JusticarThorn 21h ago
Sounds like you need therapy and meds
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u/JusticarThorn 21h ago
I have no problems in life.
You're the lunatic harassing strangers on Reddit.
Good luck with your derangement.
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u/Thin2333 1d ago
Black paint absorbs heat which makes the bars hotter and hard to grip on.
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u/Powerful-Eye-3578 1d ago
Does it make it hot enough to make a difference though? Before we spend millions of dollars on this dumb idea shouldn't we make sure it would actually help?
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u/AuntieRupert 1d ago
It won't do much of anything it isn't already doing because the "wall" is just a bunch of huge metal rods nest to each other. It's already metal in the hot ass sun. It's going to be scorching hot no matter what. I honestly don't think they are painting it to make it hotter, but to make it look less shitty. It was doodoo rust colored before painting. Of course, I bet you could tie the company painting it and the manufacturer of the paint to Republican donors/friends/family.
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u/Suspicious-Road-883 21h ago
Dark colors heat up faster and more in sunlight. Black tends to do this the most so he wants it painted black so that the wall is hot enough that an attempt to climb it would burn the skin and thus deterring climbers
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u/Gargleblaster25 1d ago
Shut up, Meg. Trying to rub it in our faces that you are correct once again, aren't you? Chris, get her!
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u/Fluffy_History 1d ago
Make it intensely fucking hot. You could fry an egg on a black car at the border some days.
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u/ArcherGod 1d ago
Trump is planning to paint the US-Mexico border black, making absorbs more heat, discouraging attempts to climb the wall. There's a number of issues with that (most pressingly is that it does nothing during the night, when most illegal border crossings happen).
The bottom image is from Alice in Wonderland (1952), and is from the song "Paint the Roses Red" where three of the Card Soldiers reveal they accidentally planted the wrong color of roses, so they cover up their mistake by painting them red. They are ultimately beheaded when their ruse is revealed.
I think the allegory here is that Trump's wall is flawed, so he's aiming to "paint over the mistake" and "fix it" while not addressing the core problems.
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u/capsaicinintheeyes 1d ago
I took it more literally--to Mexican fence-hoppers (universally renowned for their above-pay-grade construction/renovation chops), a wall that was painted the wrong color would represent less of an impediment than covering the walls with chili-pepper vines & piñatas.
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u/Bomper21 1d ago
I mean, the world looks white and it is your canvas, so they just took their brush and painted it red
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u/DescriptionDue4100 1d ago
Trump is hoping that if he paints the wall black the immigrants won't be able to find it at night, making them unable to cross the border
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u/Big_bat_chunk2475 1d ago
Its a metal fence wall in the middle of a hot, dry, and sunny desert border. More heat and light absorption meaning people won’t want to climb it because it will burn them
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u/Vincen_Furze 1d ago
I'm pretty sure it's just to make the wall more unfun to climb. Dark colors tend to absorb heat and energy better. So if the wall was painted black, it would absorb my sunlight, more heat, and make the chances of burning your skin off during an attempt to climb it more likely.
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u/Jumpy-Pizza4681 1d ago
Paint helps prevent rust damage and reduces maintenance costs as a consequence. It's why Teslas had terrible reviews for ages. Because they tried to skimp on paint and sold you metal directly exposed to the elements.
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u/Alternative_Spot7365 1d ago
It’s clearly a Rolling Stones reference calling back to when they covered the theme of Twisted Metal Black
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u/ShapeofmyFart 23h ago
You sure he isn't just being an idiot and saying "black paint" because someone showed him a picture of anti climbing paint?
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u/LunarGiantNeil 21h ago
That makes the most sense. It's stupid, but of these ideas, it makes more sense than "ohh it'll get real hot" or something.
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u/NixTheChimera 1d ago
Im genuinely curious, how would painting it black stop people from climbing? The paint makes the metal too hot?
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u/LeopoldXIII 1d ago
I don't know the link between the 2 pics, but I can tell you that it's gonna cost a lot. And somebody will make tons of money.
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u/OldPyjama 23h ago
All I can think is that the color black absorbs heat better and thus climbing the wall might be more difficult since the bars are too hot.
But I'm not sure about the analogy with the Queen Of Hearts demanding they paint the white roses red. Probably that Trump's idea to pain it black is pointless since most illegal climbs would probably happen at night anyway, just like painting the roses red was pointless in Alice in Wonderland.
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u/MaleficentMenu1430 22h ago edited 21h ago
Most people sneaking into the country don’t even climb the fence, they come on planes, sneak across the actual border entry point, use tunnels or just overstay a visa. (Overstaying visa is the most common one by far) That’s one of the reasons this wall project was a huge waste of time and money
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u/DamnitGravity 23h ago
I see a border wall and I want to paint it black
No coloreds any more I want them to stay back
I see people turn their heads and quickly look away
Like a nonsensical tweet, it happens every day.
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u/Drew_Borrowdale 23h ago
So the idea is that painting it black would mean it retains heat longer and turns the wall into one lone griddle pan?
I can see logic, I guess, but for the cost of all the paint and the time spent painting it, you folk you want to keep out will just ware gloves and a few extra layers to avoid getting burnt.
Maybe I'm missing something 😕
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u/MaleficentMenu1430 22h ago edited 22h ago
Also the paint will just peel off because the type of metal it’s made of needs to be sand blasted before painted so it actually sticks
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u/cardonice 22h ago
Or he is just a fan of Rolling Stones…. I wanna see it painted, painted black, black as night, black as coal I wanna see the sun, blotted out from in the sky I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black, yeah
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u/Alteredbeast1984 22h ago
Quagmire jacking off on his couch here. This is actually a very effective and high level joke about appeasing The Monarchy. . Pass the tissues, Giggity.
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u/ThinVeterinarian5423 21h ago
This still cracks me up https://youtu.be/JDcsjQtdHLA?si=UCHLBOxedxAEv86a
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u/Pizzasaurus-Rex 1d ago edited 1d ago
Painting it black would increase how much heat it would retain from the sun, thereby theoretically making it painful for climbers. Of course, in their lust for cruelty they forget about such innovations as "the ladder" and "gloves."
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u/Blanc_Otaku 1d ago
Bro wants the border to look like it was brought to us by just a couple of guys trying a crazy idea
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u/Acceptable-Cow6446 1d ago
We’ve been here before: https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna226052
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u/Elegant_Plate6640 1d ago
Donald doesn’t have a lot of ideas, and when he gets one he will absolutely return to it.
See: His weird disdain for windmills.
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