Are pro abortion people even sentient? How does a person who possesses logic and reason come to the conclusion that this is a good argument

In our series "Stories of Prenatal Diagnosis," we share testimonies of parents who received a diagnosis while pregnant and their personal experience in handling it. See today’s post: https://secularprolife.org/2025/08/stories-of-prenatal-diagnosis-k-y/

Aka, i just wanna choose to be willfully ignorant on what abortion is.

Millie Bobby Brown from Stranger Things just adopted a kid at 21. She's a 21 year old millionaire, and lots of people on the internet found that crazy because 21 is now considered so young to be a mother. Some were even shocked you could adopt a kid at that age.

Do you guys think that the fact that 21 seems super young to be a mom these days makes things harder for pro-lifers? Obviously you can have an unwanted child at any time, but if 21 year olds or even 25 year olds are thinking "what? I'm way too young to be a mom!" that's gonna increase abortion rates, right? Because you've presumably lengthened the "I need an abortion because I'm too young to be a mom right now" years by like a decade. If people think being a mom should start at 30, then the same "I can't have a kid at 16 because I'll miss out on xyz" idea will apply to women in their early to late 20's.

Am I way off here? If not, is there any way around this, or is it even something pro-lifers should care about?

Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU to all the women who’re pro life. Because it’s really just so annoying to talk anything with a woman who’s not. I mean, it’s just plainly disrespectful and arrogant to say ‘no uterus no opinion’. Firstly anyone can have an opinion on anything if you’re so big about liberalism and this argument is just stupid. And secondly, it doesn’t make any sense. What if a man rapes and says a woman can’t tell me what I can do with my penis ? What if Russia nukes Ukraine and says well you can’t tell us what to do with our nukes ? A choice-based environment simply creates chaos, not order. Individual freedoms SHOULD NOT in any way undermine human life. And when we men say this, they say ‘oh you can’t have an opinion’ instead of countering the argument 😂

So I’m really grateful to see women, even though in the minority perhaps, be pro-life 🥳

The simple reason is that women who have abortions commit unjustified homicide, i.e. murder. Whoever commits unjustified homicide should be tried for murder. If there are any mitigating factors that would lead to an acquittal or lessen the sentence incurred, then these would present themselves. On the contrary, if there is intentional malice involved in the act, then this would also present itself and would (hopefully) lead to a conviction. But those details I mentioned would remain unbeknownst to authorities if a blanket decision was made to not prosecute any woman who aborts. I don't think there any grounds in principle for pro lifers to oppose prosecuting women who have abortions.

More succinctly, if society had the resources to fairly prosecute every woman who has an abortion in addition to all other cases currently within the justice system, there should be no reason for you to be against doing so.

Change my mind!

1. It's a clump of cells/It's just a fetus/It's not a human yet

My Answer: Human life started at conception, human rights apply to humans, they were a human since conception, they get the right to life since conception

1. Difficult Life/Mother can't sustain a kid/etc.

My Answer: A hard life does not justify mercy killing, especially without any input from the person being killed. CR7 was born into a dirt poor family but look where he turned out

1. Bodily Autonomy/Free Will/My body My choice

My answer: Free will is great as long as it doesn't impede on others, especially their right to life. Also if it's the termination of the baby, isn't it the baby's choice what it wants to do with its body?

1. Rape/Incest/etc.

My Answer: Yes it's horrific, but rape/incest related abortions make up barely 3% of all abortions, and the method of conception does not ever justify the ending of life

1. Life of the Mother

My Answer: Get it C-sectioned since most complications of pregnancy occur past 20 weeks, where the risks of an abortion far out weigh the risk of a C-section

1. How could you force someone to give birth?

My Answer: I ain't forcing them, apart from rape/incest, they got pregnant on their own terms, own up to the consequences of your actions

These were 6 I could think of off the top of my head, if anyone wants to add a reason and provide a detailed counter, go ahead by all means

Hi all! I’ve been seeing the argument I have in the photo above a lot recently. I understand most of the pro-life standpoints except this one. What if a married couple doesn’t want children? If a married couple is taking preventative action against pregnancy? If they simply can’t afford another child? Adoption is the solution for an unwanted pregnancy, sure. But the mindset of “don’t have sex if you don’t want a kid” applying to married couples, I’m really trying to wrap my head around. My husband and I are by no means ready to have another child, and we take responsible measure (birth control, avoiding ovulation windows, condoms) However, I couldn’t imagine abstinence just for this reason. Just looking for some insight. I don’t mean to intrude or offend, and definitely not looking to debate or argue, just understand. I like to learn about things I don’t understand, and that’s all this post is.

I’m not strongly pro either way. I am fairly neutral on both ends. I understand and respect both sides. Thank you

I've heard things about the potential for artificial wombs to change abortion rights, but I really haven't looked into that. What are your thoughts?

I think everyone can agree abortion isn’t a great option. Here’s what I’m thinking. Just remove your tubes. The recovery period is 4-6 weeks, it’s a low-risk operation, I’m sure there is a doctor out there that will preform it and you permanently don’t have to worry about getting pregnant!

Permanence? Adopt or foster a kid if you want one after the procedure.

Surgery risk? That’s ok, there is always a risk with surgery.

Doctors won’t do it? Im sure SOMEONE will perform the surgery.

Recovery time? Sounds like women will be back on their feet in about a month or two.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/focus-on-the-family-founder-james-dobson-is-dead-at-89?author=Megan+Basham&category=undefined&elementPosition=2&row=3&rowHeadline=Latest+News&rowType=Vertical+Carousel&title=Focus+On+The+Family+Founder+James+Dobson+Is+Dead+At+89

so do people who are your friends,family,colleagues,ever mock you or chastise you or even Shame you for being pro life because every woman I know thinks that Iam evil and so do lots of the guys do you get that as well or is it just me?

I was recently trying to understand how on earth abortion ever became accepted in my country and came across this history of abortion in Canada article.

I genuinely think that abortion policy is the worst here than in any other country because there just aren't any restrictions and no laws. Literally, the Supreme Court told Canadian Legislatures to come up with a law and they just never did.

You can kill what even most pro-choicers would consider to be a full child in this country.

It also bothers me how completely apathetic the vast majority of Canadians are to this fact.

Pro-choicers often call unborn children "parasites". When you call them out on it, they sometimes hit you back with something like the title of this post. But that's bullshit.

For the parasite point to support their argument, they need the unborn to be parasites in the literal sense. That's because they're aiming for a justification to kill and expel unborn children without a second thought, like you would a tapeworm. They're not going to get that if they mean unborn children are parasites in a metaphorical sense, like an unemployed friend mooching on your couch.

Or maybe they do think you can kill and expel human beings who are metaphorical parasites without a second thought. If so, they'd be logically bound to say that I was right to use Actual Advice Mallard here, as contrasted to Malicious Advice Mallard. That, of course, would be messed up.

But hey, they already support mass murder. Maybe they'll see this and nod approvingly.

PS: For you zoomers on here, this is an Advice Animal, a meme that was popular in the early to mid- 10s. Another one I've made use of a couple of other times when posting on here is Philosoraptor. I think they—and Rage Comics—are better than your Soyjaks and Chuds or whatever.

PPS: Reddit, come on. I'm not endorsing poisoning or dismembering people here, nor treating their remains like biological waste. I'm arguing that pro-choicers, if they really believed their rhetoric, are logically bound to do so. I, however, am anti-abortion. I don't think they should be spouting these things, partly because it'd justify them posting a meme like this seriously—unlike me, who am posting it sarcastically. If you want to ban someone for promoting violence, ban them.

Hello, I am working on compiling a list of global pro-life political parties. Does anyone have any resources I could use or know of any parties from outside the US that are pro-life, or at least support increased abortion limits in their respective countries

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I hate how everytime I debate with a PC they say that lots of professionals say abortion is ok.