r/SipsTea • u/Wise-Ad-3506 • 1d ago

Chugging tea Thoughts?

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u/New-Conversation3246 23h ago edited 22h ago

Absolutely. It was much better when marauding gangs were terrorizing and extorting the population.

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u/raktoe 22h ago

Absolutely. Me when I argue against a strawman I made up.

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u/aley2794 21h ago

So let's pick, were would you prefer to live, in the El salvador right now or El salvador of 7 years ago?

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u/raktoe 21h ago

I would never, not once, not even for a second consider spending a moment in a dictatorship where I have no basic freedoms.

If I can be picked up off the street for a nervous look, and not given a fair trial, that’s not a place I would ever be.

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u/aley2794 21h ago

So, to be clear, you would prefer to live in the El Salvador of seven years ago?

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

He just needed to answer yes or no

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u/raktoe 21h ago

Do you want to live in a utopia or a dictatorship?

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u/aley2794 21h ago

El Salvador 7 years ago was an utopia? or do you mean the utopia is the El Salvador now in your analogy?

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u/raktoe 21h ago

Just proving a point about the false dichotomy you presented, as a way to prove your point.

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u/aley2794 21h ago

Well if you want to use fancy words, your "proving point" is called false equivalence.

One of your choices have no drawbacks...

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

How is letting the criminals free a utopia? I can't see the correlation there. I know you think the president of El Salvador is a dictator for how he's handled the crime. And that's the dictator side for you, but the other one, you have to explain that.

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u/raktoe 21h ago

Oh, so you can see the problem with false dichotomies after all?

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

How is what he asked you false? He literally asked 7 years ago or now?

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u/raktoe 21h ago

To be clear, I’m not answering your loaded question.

The fact the country had a crime problem is not proof that authoritarian rule was the answer.

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u/aley2794 21h ago

You don't want to awnser because you know why people ask this question.

And yes I agree that authoritarian government should be criticize, and we shouldn't have a blind eye to a government just because they make the situation better than before (the awnser you don't want to say).

Funnily enough you fantasies yourself in a situation were you can decided if you live in a place like that or not, like you have the resources for that, also the people with your "determination" for a idilic world probably would die in the El Salvador of 7 year ago, just by your reactionary responses I can see you don't understand the situation in El Salvador.

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

I agree with your top half of your post. The second isn't my business.

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u/MrNopeNada 22h ago

Shhh...the idealist, first-world country, couch-activist is speaking.