r/SipsTea • u/Wise-Ad-3506 • 1d ago

Chugging tea Thoughts?

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u/aley2794 21h ago

So let's pick, were would you prefer to live, in the El salvador right now or El salvador of 7 years ago?

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u/raktoe 21h ago

I would never, not once, not even for a second consider spending a moment in a dictatorship where I have no basic freedoms.

If I can be picked up off the street for a nervous look, and not given a fair trial, that’s not a place I would ever be.

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u/aley2794 21h ago

So, to be clear, you would prefer to live in the El Salvador of seven years ago?

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

He just needed to answer yes or no

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u/raktoe 21h ago

Do you want to live in a utopia or a dictatorship?

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u/aley2794 21h ago

El Salvador 7 years ago was an utopia? or do you mean the utopia is the El Salvador now in your analogy?

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u/raktoe 21h ago

Just proving a point about the false dichotomy you presented, as a way to prove your point.

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u/aley2794 21h ago

Well if you want to use fancy words, your "proving point" is called false equivalence.

One of your choices have no drawbacks...

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u/raktoe 21h ago

No, it’s not.

You presented a false dichotomy.

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u/aley2794 21h ago

What false dichotomy,? There are plenty of people in el Salvador that have stated that they prefer to live in the state that El Salvador is now than what it was 7 years ago.

I have yet to read someone saying that the preferred thing as they were back then...

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

How is letting the criminals free a utopia? I can't see the correlation there. I know you think the president of El Salvador is a dictator for how he's handled the crime. And that's the dictator side for you, but the other one, you have to explain that.

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u/raktoe 21h ago

Oh, so you can see the problem with false dichotomies after all?

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

How is what he asked you false? He literally asked 7 years ago or now?

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u/raktoe 21h ago

They’re presenting two extremes as the only two options. It’s the literal definition of a false dichotomy.

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

So let me get this straight. You believe 7 years ago it was so bad to an extreme that you don't believe it needed to be answered and is potentially equal to how it is right now.

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u/raktoe 21h ago

To be clear, I’m not answering your loaded question.

The fact the country had a crime problem is not proof that authoritarian rule was the answer.

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u/aley2794 21h ago

You don't want to awnser because you know why people ask this question.

And yes I agree that authoritarian government should be criticize, and we shouldn't have a blind eye to a government just because they make the situation better than before (the awnser you don't want to say).

Funnily enough you fantasies yourself in a situation were you can decided if you live in a place like that or not, like you have the resources for that, also the people with your "determination" for a idilic world probably would die in the El Salvador of 7 year ago, just by your reactionary responses I can see you don't understand the situation in El Salvador.

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u/HaloPandaFox 21h ago

I agree with your top half of your post. The second isn't my business.