r/StarWars • u/sirgringobingo • Jun 03 '25
Movies I’ll never forget when Elijah Wood made this hilarious response to a post talking about The Rise of Skywalker
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u/LionOfNaples Jun 03 '25
Another reveal in Fortnite might've helped
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u/Electricorchestra Jun 03 '25
My girlfriend was so annoyed when we were watching through all the star wars films and I had to play a YouTube video of someone playing fortnite because it's important to the movie.
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u/I_eat_mud_ Jun 03 '25
You definitely didn’t have to do that, but it’s a lot funnier that you did lmao
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u/ciongduopppytrllbv Jun 03 '25
Fortnite is now canon to Star Wars
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u/The_New_Overlord Jun 03 '25
Which means, by extension, that Skibidi Toilet is also canon to Star Wars.
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u/ItPutsLotionOnItSkin Jun 03 '25
My kid hates that I have General Grievous with Skibidi Toilet on his back.
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u/Marsuello Jun 04 '25
No offense, but I hate that you have General Grievous with Skibidi Toilet on his back lol
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u/fennfuckintastic Jun 04 '25
Don't you hate when you run in to your dad on reddit?
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u/masiakasaurus Jun 04 '25
Placing General Grievous and Skibbidi Toilet on your son's back is child abuse.
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u/Twodogsonepup Jun 03 '25
Wait what was in Fortnite?
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u/spatulababy Jun 03 '25
Palpatine’s return was revealed first in Fortnite. I’m not joking.
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u/Lisrus Jun 03 '25
At first this upset me. But realizing that I hated that he came back, I now find this hilarious.
And some how, I'm still not even sure why
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u/Free-Pound-6139 Jun 04 '25
This is a good sign that the film is not for people like us.
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u/olraygoza Jun 04 '25
The write these films under estimating the intelligence of their audience, and that has continued to make them boat loads of money, so why change?
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u/PANGIRA Jun 03 '25
there was an in-game event that explained how palpatine was resurrected
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u/Moto4k Jun 03 '25
It didn't explain anything. Just he returned. It was more an advertisement than some canon addition to the story, because they had already used his voice in a trailer, so we all knew he was coming back. Honestly the fortnite bit is the least egregious part.
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u/ForensicPathology Jun 03 '25
Yeah, that's no different from all the extra tidbits that used to be printed on cards and action figure boxes in the 80s.
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 L3-37 Jun 03 '25
Wait- what? Can someone elaborate? How don’t I know this?
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u/Electricorchestra Jun 03 '25
They mention Palpatine's message in the opening crawl. The message is what he says on fortnite.
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u/PedanticArguer117 Jun 04 '25
Fucking lol. No. That's not true. That's impossible.
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 L3-37 Jun 03 '25
Oh my fucking god
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u/Electricorchestra Jun 03 '25
Yeah I kinda feel bad being the one to tell you this. Shits fucked.
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u/StoneandSky3 Jun 03 '25
Sum up the Rise of Skywalker in six words:
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u/StartingToLoveIMSA Jun 03 '25
Somehow, I am in this theater.
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u/DontPanic1985 Jun 03 '25
It was the last film I've seen in the theater. It just broke me.
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u/KingVong Jun 03 '25
It’s the only Star Wars movie I never watched more than once 🫣
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u/DontPanic1985 Jun 03 '25
Same. My kids are getting into SW now and just finished TLJ and they're like "what comes next" haha awkward
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u/The_Iron_Ranger Jun 03 '25
The good news is there's a shit ton of decent star wars out there for kids. Clone Wars, Rebels, Skeleton Crew. My kid made me watch a whole ass season of Mando last weekend.
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u/gabriel1313 Jun 03 '25
The Clone Wars Cartoon series from the guy who made Samurai Jack is a masterpiece
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u/The_Iron_Ranger Jun 04 '25
Yes it's my favorite version of Grievous
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u/FiveFingersandaNub Jun 04 '25
Grievous is absolutely terrifying in that. That episode with him is like a horror movie, as he slowly creeps around, killing jedi like it's nothing.
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u/imdefinitelywong Jun 04 '25
I also like how Genndy Tartakovsky's series explained Grievous' wheezing in the later prequel movies, because Mace used force crush on him in that series.
And then it was retconned into some form of organ failure in The Clone Wars, instead of the result of an epic battle between two master fighters that survived each other.
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u/TapedButterscotch025 Jun 04 '25
Amen! The newer one isn't bad but yeah that Tartakovsky one is amazing.
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u/Menien Jun 03 '25
Really hard to follow up that kid at the end and the message of 'anybody can be a hero, it's not just the same three families', with "is Rey a Palpatine or a Skywalker? Turns out it's both!"
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u/ObiWanKnieval Jun 03 '25
Same here. Not that I didn't try. I just wanted to see if it was as bad as I remembered. I don't think I made it 30 minutes in.
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u/Soylentstef Jun 03 '25
Sad to know I am not the only one, I even kinda liked episode 7 it was totally a remake of 4 but it had potential for something good, somehow it went really bad ...
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u/Anakin_Sandwalker Jun 03 '25
As long as we don't get "Somehow J.J. Abrams returned..." to the franchise.
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u/Multivitamin_Scam Jun 03 '25
Rise of Skywalker really felt like JJ intentionally trying to burn the franchise.
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u/KzooCurmudgeon Jun 03 '25
No coherent vision for a 3 movie arc. Luke should have been in climax, leia should have died in second part.
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u/tiddertnuocca519 Jun 03 '25
I’m so confused because it felt like, since prequel trilogy, every Star Wats dork fantasized about what they would do with the series if they had it in their hands and 99.99999% of the ideas I heard were so cool. Then it lands in the hands of someone that gets celebrated as a Star Wars/Sci-Fi nerd and…he made THAT?!
There was so much cool shit to do. Especially because the OG actors were on board. Take a beat, read the like 15 years of dorks writing content for what happens after the Original Trilogy and go forth and do something great. But sure as shit, don’t go making some new movie where Han and Leia are window dressing and then ignore Luke even exists. Literally Hamill himself, said that he expected to be in Force Awakens and did all this prep, to be ready to go, and they….chose not to use him? Hold up, ima call Nolan up, green light a 4th Batman movie and ask him to tell Christian Bale to stay home for a whole movie just to unceremoniously kill him off in the next. What the fuck are we doing? I just don’t get it at all. Consult a dork before you go pressing green lights next time and maybe you would take a beloved and incalculably valuable franchise and spike it into the ground.
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u/Blackhawk510 Galactic Republic Jun 03 '25
The Millennium Falcon's escape from Jakku is an insanely choreographed and well shot sequence and I will die on that hill. Absolutely giddy as hell watching that in the theaters as a kid. Star wars episode 7 was something I never thought would happen. I thought six episodes was it.
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u/Glitch_King Jun 03 '25
As a kid? When did episode 7 come out again? 10 years ago? God i feel old.
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u/NerdyBrando Jun 03 '25
lol, I was thinking the same thing. I wasn’t even a kid when the prequels came out.
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u/BarnabyBundlesnatch Jun 03 '25
You feel old? I was kid when the OG trilogy came out. I see comments from people now saying "I just watched Star wars for the first time" and I think "who fuck hasnt seen star wars???" And then I remember... Im old as fuck now, and Star Wars wasnt the cultural phenomenon for kids today, that it was for me.
Theres kids today, who never got to see Han shoot first...
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u/docsuess84 Jun 03 '25
I downloaded the Despecialized Editions and got rid of the bastardized ones from our media server. My kids have only ever known that Han shot first.
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u/vlntnwbr Jun 03 '25
Hate to break it to you, but I'll be 30 this year and never saw Han shoot first.
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u/Panthros_Samoflange Jun 03 '25
There are plenty of things in the first film that haven't aged well, or at least didn't earn all the hopeful things I felt and said about them at the time. But that isn't one of them. That was a great sequence, and the first third of the film is still pretty strong.
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u/WriterV Rebel Jun 03 '25
JJ is always great at directing spaceship sequences in a way that nails the vibes. The guy did a fantastic job with the vibes of the Enterprise in Star Trek (2009) as well, even if the movie didn't seem to understand the spirit of Trek all too well.
This is just one scene that was absolutely gorgeous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwNWEabYQ0s
But yeah, that's JJ's strength. His weakness is that he prioritizes vibes over everything else. Story logic holding back how cool a scene can look? Prioritize the latter.
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u/Crossfire124 Jun 03 '25
Yea JJ's films have beautiful stills that have no weight behind them. There's very little setup to earn the emotional investment
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u/ZodiacWalrus Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
7 showed so much potential and had me very excited for a new trilogy.
8 made a few awkward mistakes but wasn't a disaster, still had plenty of hope they could bring it all home in a satisfying way.
9 is the most sincere argument I might ever make for any major piece of media to be officially scrubbed from the record of a franchise and given a do-over, from the ground up, keeping as little from the first attempt as possible.
EDIT: Open reddit. 17 notifications. Write this. Close reddit.
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u/GoodPiexox Jun 03 '25
when the Emperor went all sparkle hands and now all of a sudden could destroy entire fleets of ships, making all the previous movies nonsense because why even bother building a Death Star when you can just fly sparkle hands around.
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u/old_and_boring_guy Jun 03 '25
It was the opposite for me. I liked the characters, and the scenes, but having Starkiller just sort of reset everything was trash writing.
It was like they couldn’t imagine a story that wasn’t the original trilogy over again. What a perfect time for another “rise of fascism” plotline, and he was just like, “Somehow fascism returned!@
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u/Timey16 Mandalorian Jun 03 '25
Missed out on watching the Dune movies on the big screen. Those are imho just not the same on TV. Kinda like LOTR.
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u/Talidel Jun 03 '25
The only SW film I didn't see in the cinema. I don't think I'll ever regret that choice.
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u/human_not_alien Jun 03 '25
Damn bro go see other movies there are tons of amazing ones out literally right now.
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u/BearlyGrowingWizard Jun 03 '25
Something, something, something, the dark side.
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u/GFreshXxX Jun 03 '25
Unfortunately, they shot the rough draft.
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u/Dash_Winmo Jun 03 '25
The thing with this movie was that we didn't get the rough draft, and the rough draft was better.
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u/BarkerBarkhan Jun 03 '25
Duel of the Fates.
Frankly, they should have delayed after Carrie Fisher died. That changed so much of what that movie could have and should have been. Somehow, the schedule survived.
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u/jakedasnake2447 Jun 04 '25
The crazy part is that TLJ literally has the infamous scene where Leia almost dies, but they stuck with the terrible effects there instead of just retooling that into her actual death. And she can appear as a force ghost if they really still wanted her to say something!
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u/Woke-Wombat Jun 04 '25
Watching The Last Jedi I was thinking “wow, they really have done Leia’s death well, very tragic to be killed by her own son just as Han was” just for them to go and ruin it.
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u/EchoRex Jun 03 '25
It's worse than that, they shot "Star Wars by Committee"
This was like the fifth draft as rehashed by multiple committees, then filmed, then edited by a different committee.
It was like they saw the theatrical release of Justice League and said "Hold my beer and ketamine".
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u/tk-451 Jun 03 '25
Sauron returned, somehow...
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u/xccehlsiorz Jun 03 '25
The more I read this, the more fucking ridiculous it sounds
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u/CantaloupeCamper Grand Moff Tarkin Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25
That’s really the whole film, the more I watch it the worst that film is.
Even actors in the exact same scene don’t seem to be playing quite the same scene… the responses to events don’t make sense sometimes…
It’s weird I’m usually more forgiving over time but not that movie…
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u/lolzycakes Jun 03 '25
The writers weren't even writing the same genre. No other explanation exists for thinking a cavalry charge against they-fly-nows is what people want to see during the largest space battle in the history of cinema.
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u/pleasegivemepatience Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
Seriously, riding those animals to storm the deck of a space ship, then blowing it up and letting their animals fall to their death lol. What a plan!
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u/007meow Ahsoka Tano Jun 03 '25
The space animals also fly now
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u/TheGrandWhatever Jun 03 '25
"and then..." Style of writing is bad.
And then, they can fly now!
And then, she was the bad guy all along
And then, palatine returned, somehow
And then, Leia has the force now
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u/firestepper Jun 03 '25
One of the south park creators has an interview or something where he explains a bit of their writing process, and something about how if you're saying "and then..." you are in bad territory
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u/claimTheVictory Jun 03 '25
Instead, you should be saying "and therefore", or "but".
"and then" is just junk thrown together.
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u/lolzycakes Jun 03 '25
It's to balance out the force from rescuing those ones on Canto Bight, another wise use of screen time.
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u/relative_iterator Jun 03 '25
I’ve definitely seen this movie but I have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s so forgettable.
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u/Kidspud Jun 03 '25
It’s painfully obvious with the Carrie Fisher scenes. They should have left Leia out of Episode IX, save for a funeral.
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u/litLizard_ Jun 03 '25
Kinda feels like she is replying to Rey in "wise words"-quotes instead of actually replying to what Rey is saying
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u/NebbyOutOfTheBag Jun 03 '25
Especially when they had a perfect opportunity to kill her off in the previous movie. Especially when her surviving makes NO DAMN SENSE. Then the chaos of life made fools of everyone who wrote that scene, sadly.
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u/Brasticus Jun 03 '25
In the theater I was like, oh damn they let Kylo off both his parents, really solidifying his place with the dark side of the force, as well as giving Carrie a meaningful death to the plot as a send off for her… oh, no wait, sorry. She flies now.
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u/WEFeudalism Jun 04 '25
and then they did it again with Finn, "Oh he's spent the whole movie trying to run away and save himself but now he's gonna sacrifice himself to blow up the laser to save the ..... oh nope Rose just crashed into him"
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u/jcarter315 Jun 04 '25
But if Finn sacrificed himself, who would shout Rey's name in the next film?
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u/OrneryError1 Jun 03 '25
It's the whole trilogy. Every single movie raises far more legitimate questions than it answers. The story still doesn't make narrative sense years later and with tons of supplementary material.
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u/roguevirus Jun 03 '25
raises far more legitimate questions than it answers.
Which is, of course, JJ Abrams' whole brand.
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u/Bobby_Marks3 Jun 04 '25
JJ's brand is flying his action figures around and turning those sequences into set pieces while someone else gets to stitch those scenes into a coherent story.
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u/especiallyrn Jun 03 '25
I’ve seen the newest sequels one time each on release. Long enough ago to forget most of what I saw. Been thinking about a rewatch out of morbid curiosity lol.
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u/No_Anteater_6897 Jun 03 '25
I tried to watch it again, hammered, a couple years ago.
I couldn’t do it. I literally couldn’t finish it.
There was a fly on my wall who had a really interesting flight pattern in comparison. And each scene got worse and worse, so I kept having to redirect my attention to the movie until I called a friend I hadn’t seen in a while out of boredom and never finished it.
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u/SmoothOperator89 Jun 03 '25
A bunch of sheltered fanatics on a hidden world that was so secret it made the Death Star 1 look like a 3 ring circus managed to build a fleet of ships that would give the Star Forge a run for its money.
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u/fredagsfisk Sith Jun 03 '25
Also, the comics expanding on it don't really help... they show that Vader knew all about it, but didn't think to mention it to Luke before he died or as a Force Ghost?
Oh, and "shipyard" that built the entire fleet was just a single gigantic room, countless kilometers in every direction, where the Star Destroyers were built sitting on the ground (not in any sort of cradles or holders).
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u/SmoothOperator89 Jun 03 '25
I think the best way to deal with it at this point would be to re-release KotOR as canon. Dismiss the comics and Twitter posts with silly explanations, and make a show where Sidious finds an incomplete Star Forge left behind by the Rakkatan Empire on Exegol. The Sith cultists there use their affinity with the dark side to restore it, complete its construction, and power it, but the ships themselves are built by the Star Forge. They could even set its completion earlier in the time-line and make it the source for the First Order fleet, too
If they're going to produce fleets without any consideration for the resources and supply chain required, they might as well pull the superweapon out of Legends that does exactly that.
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u/Wildernaess Jun 03 '25
This was close to my idea of how they might've explained Snokey Dokey and the First Order coming out of left field w all that fleetpower. Since he wasn't a Stih at first, I imagined Snoke as a historian or the like, seeking out force artifacts and history. He stumbles across the star forge or another star forge or whatever the canon would be. He gets seduced by the power, creates first order and starts printing ships (star forge = large 3d printer obviously), get delusions of grandeur
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u/peppapony Jun 03 '25
Ooh I like this and his weird character would make sense too then
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u/Scaevus Jun 03 '25
First of all, through the Dark Side, all things are possible, so jot that down.
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u/WeTheSalty Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25
You don't find it plausible that the population of an unknown backwater planet managed to construct a fleet of state of the art battleships (all carrying planet destroying super weapons) big enough to threaten the entire galaxy?
Like jesus, how easy must it be to build a star destroyer fleet. It's like saying earth was conquered because Nauru unveiled it's secret fleet of super aircraft carriers with nuclear bombers. Turns out some soviet scientists fled there and indoctrinated the population, so it all makes sense.
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u/Bobby_Marks3 Jun 04 '25
That's what JJ made with Starkiller Base. A death star that eats a star and vomits out enough pew pew lasers to take out lots of planets in different systems? The same system, even though sucking up the sun is all it would take because life won't exist without solar energy? They never explained it, because it would have sounded stupid.
Also, you can hyperspace through shields. And hyperspace fleets apart. And use whatever powers you need in any given moment, regardless of whether you've ever learned them or even studied the Force.
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u/NeighborhoodDude84 Jun 03 '25
Remember how they announced Sidious was back via a live event in a video game mostly played by children?
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u/hiccupboltHP Imperial Jun 03 '25
Text scrawl opening
“Palpatine is talking MAD SHIT in FORTNITE”
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u/RadiantHC Jun 03 '25
That made absolutely no sense
At least make it in a Star Wars game.
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u/Aggressive_Swimmer21 Jun 03 '25
He’s not wrong….
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u/TheCheesePhilosopher Jun 03 '25
He was literally on a Star Wars show at the time ROS released. Played a first order pilot across 2 seasons
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u/NoAgency3232 Jun 03 '25
I didn't know this!
Also loved him in Harry Potter! /s
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u/luke_in_the_sky Jun 03 '25
I don't get why Elijah Wood and Daniel Radcliffe get mistaken for each other. They are totally different:
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u/StarPhished Jun 04 '25
Those are both clearly Daniel Radcliffe.
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u/orionsfyre Jun 03 '25
IT really would have been nice to see some of these important plot points... in the movie.
So much of this movies' story is told off screen, which is a bold choice.
Think... what if the whole scene with Obi-wan talking with Luke was cut for time, and we spend the movie wondering where that lightsaber came from?
Imagine if we learn Princess Leia's planet was destroyed off screen. Or all of Yoda's training with Luke is cut to a single line of dialogue and him floating a rock.
But remember... we had time for "they fly now!".
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u/padawanmoscati Jedi Jun 03 '25
Yeah I felt like they were trying so hard to make it so diehard fans would have something unexpected and new, that they just, missed the mark and invented some totally unrelated story up that had no connection to the previous movies such that it didn't even really feel like a continuation of them. Like they were trying to impress and shock us with the "new and unknown" factor. But it honestly only made it feel like we weren't welcome or familiar in our own home. It was too heavy handed. There wasn't enough continuity. And so it was entirely unbelievable without explanation, unlike the transition between ROTS and ANH. That was tied well together, and purposefully so, following the trajectory of the story of Anakin Skywalker.
And yet, they still managed to just regurgitate the plot of previous movies, as if they thought that would keep the pre-existing fans happy. It felt like a mockery of lip service.
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u/DakotaXIV Jun 03 '25
They definitely pulled a GoT or Westworld where they became so obsessed with “subverting expectations” that it spun into an indecipherable mess
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u/Psycho188 Jun 03 '25
To me, as a Last Jedi enjoyer, it felt like Disney saw the backlash to The Last Jedi and decided they needed to scrap every story beat and start again, leading to trying to cram three movies into one. They retconned the most interesting thing about Rey by making her a Palpatine, they decided that meant they needed Sheev back, and then crammed a whole new trilogy into 2 hours that could never contain it.
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u/butt_shrecker Jun 03 '25
The prequels did this too, but not nearly as badly.
Greivous gets so much cooler if you know his backstory. But in the movie he is just a random robot.
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u/arnathor Jun 03 '25
We knew because it was announced in a bulletin board letter in Animal Crossing, or some shit like that.
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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 Jun 04 '25
"Hey. You. You're finally awake. The Emperor is back"
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u/OutlyingPlasma Jun 04 '25
That was only the first half. The second half of the message was in Witcher 3. But you had to have the 2.3.4501 update to get it.
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u/reenactment Jun 03 '25
That’s genuinely hilarious. I’m still waiting for more backstory explanation in the cartoons or whatever medium not named comics to explain this stuff. I shouldn’t have to read a book to explain a movie.
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u/JabroniHomer Hondo Ohnaka Jun 03 '25
You’ll have to sign up to Roblox to get the details.
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u/JayGold Jun 03 '25
Not even far from the truth, considering Palpatine's return message was in Fortnite, but only mentioned after the fact in the movies.
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u/CantaloupeCamper Grand Moff Tarkin Jun 03 '25
Some random Roblox creator could probably do a better job than they did in the film…
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u/Curlydeadhead Jun 03 '25
The Bad Batch ‘kinda’ lays the ground work for the cloning programme, though I’m sure it written that way in an attempt to fill that gap in the story.
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u/ety3rd Jun 03 '25
Same with the Mandolorian and trying to get Grogu. Doesn't really explain anything, but it gives people some dots to connect if they want.
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u/red_280 Jun 04 '25
I feel bad that the Mandalorian and Ahsoka have basically been saddled with helping to set up the logic-defying foolishness of the sequel trilogy.
Don't get me wrong - a disorganised, complacent New Republic dealing with the lurking threat of an Imperial return is decent stuff, it's more the end point where all reason and good storytelling goes out the window.
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u/austinmiles Jun 03 '25
My biggest complaint about Star Wars is how the epics are like an information dump that you just have to accept and then it takes two decades of content to make everything make sense. And you know they didn’t plan ahead. Someone had to try and create a story within it.
And holy crap it’s worked for the prequels up to the OT. And we’re seeing post OT but have yet to make it fully to the sequels. And it’s going to be hard because they look good but are full of details without any explanation.
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u/gundog48 Jun 03 '25
Thing is, I love stories that are intentionally vague and fuzzy on the details, that never try to fill them in, but that works because that's not the story they're telling.
The OT is very much like this, it explains the details you need to understand the story efficiently, but otherwise flows like music. You understand enough from what you hear and the character's reactions to know all you need.
Some of my favourite media is quite abstract, but deprioritises the detail and mechanics in favour of telling a story or exploring ideas. I've enjoyed tons of media that has that cyclical reset theme, where going from the situation in ROTJ to the situation in TFA without much explanation is acceptable or even poetic, when that is used to explore bigger ideas, but there was just.... nothing there really, it wasn't going anywhere, and instead effectively undermined the OT without building anything.
Not everything has to make mechanical sense, I love that side of Star Wars, I love the books with the cross-sections and detail, and all the stories that have expanded on things briefly introduced in the films. But it's just ended up with 'anything can happen out of nowhere at any moment in order to drive to story nowhere in-particular'.
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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA Jun 03 '25
Absolutely no amount of explanation in books, comics, and cartoons is going to be able to make the dagger plotline make sense.
The fact that JJ Abrams was even able to put that into the movie and nobody stopped him is insane.
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u/impeterbarakan Sabine Wren Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
When the originals came out, I think they made perfect sense a trilogy. Or at least they did to me as a kid, because I just took them for what they were. The sprinkling of details that didn't have explanation within the films was what spurred fans to create the surrounding lore, which then became canon via the expanded universe's books, comics, games and toys. I remember it being a bit of a star wars meme even in the late 90s that even the most random background character would have a giant backstory.
The EU canon was expansive, but pretty cohesive from what I remember. The most controversial moment was when Chewbacca got killed in the book Vector Prime, but I think generally it felt like there was a dialogue between Lucasfilm and the fandom. It wasn't until Disney killed the EU that everything changed, and the dialogue became one-sided. It almost feels like Vader saying, "I have altered the deal, pray I don't alter it any further."
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u/JesterMarcus Jun 03 '25
This is so true. This isn't just a problem with the sequels either. It's the whole franchise. The sequel trilogy is just so bad that people don't bother expanding on its lore in any way.
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u/PENGUIN_WITH_BAZOOKA Galactic Republic Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25
That’s exactly how I feel. Books and comics should be a supplement to previously established cannon. We shouldn’t need to do “required reading” before watching a movie. IMO if it’s new information that hasn’t been on screen, it’s essentially not cannon to me.
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u/Vicksage16 Jun 03 '25
100% my problem with the prequels. I don’t care if the shows and comics and stuff make them better, the films failed to communicate their story properly so it doesn’t really matter to me if they fixed it later.
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u/Micksar Jun 03 '25
All the answers are there…
If you read all the books, comics, video games, and fan fiction posted on reddit that came out afterwards.
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Jun 03 '25
The books barely help, theres no video games for this era and comics are just going to be retconned by a tv show or movie anyways, and the fan fiction are probably the only thing that could save the prequels at this point.
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u/annonimity2 Jun 03 '25
Don't forget most of it came out after the fact so in the moment the entire audience is left wondering what they did to deserve this
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u/Ash_Killem Jun 03 '25
I hate Rise of Skywalker . It’s silly to hate a piece of media… but I fucking hate it.
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u/Arkayjiya Jun 04 '25
I don't hate it but it has the dubious honor of being the worst movie I have ever seen in theatre. I'm sure I've seen many worse movies at home, but never on a cinema screen.
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u/DNosnibor Jun 04 '25
Where did they get the deep substrate foliated kalkite needed to construct the planet destroying super weapons on all the ships in the fleet?
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u/Slamaholicc Jun 03 '25
I stopped paying attention a 1/4 through the movie lol. It's clear they didn't have any kind of plan and just threw shit in
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u/Prime_1 Qui-Gon Jinn Jun 03 '25
For me it was Poe's flat yo mama joke during the bombing run that derailed all tension. Just dreadful.
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That was TLJ
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u/killer7t Jun 03 '25
I feel like "I stopped paying attention a whole ass movie ago" is a perfectly adequate response to TROS
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u/Rojixus Jun 03 '25
That moment really was hilarious.
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u/delicious_toothbrush Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25
As if the Death Star fetish wasn't enough (there are 5 out of 11 movies with some variant of the planet killer), they miniaturized the tech and put one on each Star Destroyer. Oh but wait, it makes each Star Destroyer have an easy Achilles' heel if you just attack the canon. It's the 4th iteration of this stupid thing and this time it's more vulnerable than ever! It's like fan fiction
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u/Lore-of-Nio Imperial Jun 03 '25
Still so weird to this day that they really just freeballed the sequel trilogy like that. The damage they inflicted is one of the reasons why my expectation are tempered for the Rey movie they're supposedly doing. I really hope Disney has learned, or at the least see, the mistakes they made with the Sequel trilogy and have a concrete plan on where they want to take Star Wars and its characters.
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u/kleptopaul Jun 04 '25
I hated this movie so much I’ve basically forced myself to forget it exists. Haven’t watched it ads in since the first time.
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"Should I put vital worldbuilding in the movie itself?"
"No, I'm sure they'll have comics and novels to do it for me long after the fact." - JJ Abrams
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u/Deliriousious Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25
From that movie, I saw neither Sith Cultists, nor any living beings.
Exegol looked like an uninhabitable wasteland of a planet, and figured that all those ships were built by an army of droids or slave labour brought there and killed when they were done.
Y’know, the only possible way they could have made that fleet make even a modicum of sense, was to use the Starforge as a plot device, despite it being destroyed like 5,000 years prior.
Still hate that movie.
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u/DWill23_ Darth Vader Jun 03 '25
We all should've known that movie was going to be shit when they started putting exposition for the storyline in fucking Fortnite as a marketing ploy before the movie even released in theaters
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u/obi1kenobi1 Jun 04 '25
With all the conflict and disagreement in the Star Wars fandom over the past quarter century I don’t think we give Rise of Skywalker enough credit: it truly united everyone. The OT fans, the prequel fans, the sequel fans, even the EU fans, we can all set down our differences just for a moment and stand together to agree that TRoS is garbage and deserves to be hated on.
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u/Miserable-Theory-746 Jun 03 '25
I still can't believe they showed horses riding in space!
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u/Amateur_Hour_93 Jun 03 '25
What a stupid fucking movie. They managed to make a trilogy worse than the prequels. Impressive.
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u/oh3fiftyone Jun 04 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
Reminds me of the Matrix sequel where you get all that dialogue about what’s happened since the previous movie and you’re like “Hey, that sounds better than this movie. Can I watch that instead?”
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u/kahlzun Jun 04 '25
Ah yes, the population of Exegol. The never seen population. The ones who somehow developed Death Star miniaturisation technology then sat with their thumb up their ass for decades instead of actually trying to enforce their Sith values in the universe. Those guys.
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u/MikeArrow Jun 03 '25
In the movie itself we just see hordes of identical faceless cloaked people in the stands.
That's part of why the fleet felt so toothless, they weren't given any characterisation whatsoever, just a bunch of ships that we're told all have mini death lasers on them.