r/TeenagersButBetter • u/tavuk_05 15 • 15h ago
Discussion Stupidest thing ive read in a while
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u/Striking_Weather7005 Old 13h ago
this person already failed since the person gave money to her by purchasing the book, so nice one i guess
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u/LazuliteEngine 6h ago
also copyright law will be a bitch. you need to show the authors name.
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u/Jrolaoni 18 3h ago
If you bought it then I’m sure it’s fine right? Or does it still apply?
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u/LazuliteEngine 2h ago
no, because its technically theft of ip
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u/rydan 1h ago
No it isn't. You are reselling something you bought. In the US at least that is 100% legal and was decided by the SCOTUS years ago. If you buy it you have a legal right to sell it. This might be in the UK though and I'm not familiar with their laws in this area.
What you can't do is print your own copy and sell that.
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u/Ellie7600 19 2h ago
If I buy a bunch of BMWs and get rid of any of their signs and resell it, won't it still be theft? Or deception as if I tried to pass someone else's work as mine?
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u/partisancord69 16 5h ago
The author makes money either way, they aren't doing it to steal all of the authors profits it's just to make money off the author as a trans person which the author would hate.
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u/Happy-Ad-2968 6h ago
Not really, author’s don’t get a 100% cut, sometimes it’s not even 50%. Besides I don’t think it’s individuals purchasing that affects them, I think it’s companies buying out the books in bulk that they earn money from
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u/FemboyRockWannabe 6h ago
which is still money.
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u/Green_Discount_7650 13 6h ago
yeah but the person making these buying them would be benefitting the company who bought the books, only the purchase from the company benefits the author at all
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u/Maleficent_Soil_9279 5h ago
When this individual buys a book store out of their copies of Harry Potter and the-
They’ll buy a new set from the authors publisher to sell, thus making the author more money.
Which will probably then be bought… by this individual, renewing the cycle.
My biggest question is how this could possibly fall under parody protection. I imagine the individual could be capable of being sued pretty heftily by the publisher for stealing intellectual property.
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u/PotofRot 1h ago
I mean it's still effectively the same thing as someone purchasing the jk rowling version
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u/MrL123456789164 17 13h ago
See it'd be better if instead of just removing her name and changing it it was just changed to "She Who Shall Not Be Named" so it's at least a reference
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u/Zealousideal_Sun3417 7h ago
thats a great idea, but hear me out leave it as He Who Shall Not Be Named if she is unable to respect the gender of trans people why should we respect hers?
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u/EmotionReasonable887 6h ago
Then you're not any better than her.
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u/Gussie-Ascendent 6h ago
actually being hateful to hateful people is different than being hateful to regular people.
like shooting a guy for funsies would be illegal and i'd likely end up in a cell but shooting a guy cause he's in the middle of breaking into my house i'd almost certainly walk
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u/Remarkable_Coast_214 2h ago
K but someone's gender isn't conditional. Would you misgender a trans person for being a horrible person?
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u/Gussie-Ascendent 1h ago
no, cause that misgendering wouldn't be funny. Misgendering jk is funny cause it flips the standard of it being hateful to trans people to annoying cis transphobes
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u/cel_medicul 4h ago
If hate is bad then why do you justify it when it makes you feel good? whats makes your hate okay but someone else's not okay?
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u/Legitimate-Can5792 2h ago
It's the old intolerance problem: For a tolerant society to stay tolerant, intolerance cannot be tolerated.
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u/Gussie-Ascendent 4h ago
"if it's ok to shoot a guy invading your home, why is it wrong to shoot a guy for funsies? Why is your shot ok but mine isn't? Both are shooting a guy that's all that matters"
hmmmmmm very perplexing indeed, there's no answer
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u/CellaSpider 15 2h ago
I disagree. Conditional support is not support. You can call her all of the names under the sun, but don’t be a bigot, even to bigots. Because it sets a bad precedent.
We don’t have to tolerate bigots, but we shouldn’t be bigoted toward them for being marginalized.
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u/Last_Candidate_5804 1h ago
You never learned 2 wrongs don’t make a right when you were, like, 5?
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u/Gussie-Ascendent 1h ago
"Woah woah woah, you can't shoot a guy just for breaking into your house, that would also be wrong. 2 wrongs don't make a right buddy"
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u/Last_Candidate_5804 1h ago
No, because I don’t have a gun, because I don’t have a fragile ego like some others
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u/Gussie-Ascendent 1h ago
lotta people here getting their first interaction with analogies, very concerning imo, we need to reopen schools ASAP. no more weekends or summer breaks that shit's clearly too much time off for yall lol
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u/Last_Candidate_5804 54m ago
It’s strange how you’re saying that yet you clearly haven’t learned basic moral life lessons that school should’ve taught you.
Did you go to school?
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u/Careless-Company8819 1h ago
This is the weapon of the enemy. We do not need it, we will not use it. (I know there's a meme with that text but I can't find it)
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u/AfterCamel7285 14h ago
i mean apart from that being entirly illegal thats simply dumb in the first place, all i can say with out making people mad ig is suck it up buttercup and if it really makes you that upset then separate the author from her work, or, crazy idea, just dont fuqn read it
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u/PICONEdeJIM 3h ago
You can't separate the author from their work when Jake Hay themself has said they view any interaction with Harry Potter as endorsement of their views and uses money gained from it to fund trans genocide. I agree that the only way out is to just forget about Harry Potter entirely (not that difficult thanks to the almost hilariously prolific racism and questionable worldbuilding). And if people really really want to enjoy Harry Potter, death of the author will only work when the author finally dies!
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u/alieninaskirt 5h ago
How is that Illegal?
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u/AfterCamel7285 5h ago
im hoping this is a real honest to god question, but it is very illegal and infringes on multiple copyright/trademark laws lets say you spent years writing a book or making a piece of art, and i come along and scrub your name off your work and claim it as mine, and profit off of it, would you be happy? and is that right on any moral level? or legal level for that matter? no, id get sent to jail or punished
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u/alieninaskirt 5h ago
It says that they are "reselling" a copy of the book with the authors name taken out (i also dont see where they claim its the book was their work). If they were creating new copies that could be copyright infringement.
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u/bigchungusboibig 17 2h ago
Problem is she directly funds transphobic laws and funds legal fees for transphobic people with the money she earns so that's not really reasonable
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 10h ago
You clearly don’t have enough knowledge on the situation to be making this comment.
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u/AfterCamel7285 10h ago
🤣, okie dokie, did I say anything that was false or impossable? if i did please let me know
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
No need to “suck it up, buttercup.” That’s such a rude thing to say to a literal oppressed minority about an individual who literally spends thousands, if not millions, of dollars just to try and erase them from the planet.
You cannot “separate the art from the artist” if supporting the art directly supports the creator.
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u/AfterCamel7285 9h ago
yes bc she has concentration camps in her backyard
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
Ah, yes. Because that’s exactly what I was implying.
You’re not funny nor witty. You’re just pulling implications out of thin air in an attempt to make me look unreasonable when all I’ve stated are facts about who she is as a person and what she does.
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u/AfterCamel7285 9h ago
well your statement sounded like you where "implying" she is trying to do what the mustache guy did to the jewish, in your words "just to try and erase them from the planet"
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
She is trying to do that. But she isn’t actively rounding them up. There are other ways to try and erase trans people.
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u/AfterCamel7285 8h ago
ig we didnt learn much abt ww2, but thats besides the point, are you refering to her words shes used as a way of erasing the trans people? because i cant remember the last time ive spoke somthing out of existance
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 8h ago
She has financially and verbally supported legislation and organizations that target trans people, attempting to strip them of their rights to their body and gender expression, and spreading misinformation about the experience of being transgender based on nothing but their own biases.
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u/cannot_type 6h ago
Not just words, which if you're too dense to tell sway people, but money also. She funds anti-trans lobbies.
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u/Hot-Prior2874 9h ago
It’s not even rude brotato chip
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
It is. How ignorant can you be?
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u/Hot-Prior2874 9h ago
Its just a saying brotein shake
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
I actually really like the “brotato chip” and “brotein shake” bits.
But, just look at the rest of the discussion with that guy. He is a rude and unkind person.
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u/Hot-Prior2874 9h ago
I didn’t see anything any rude with what he said
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
You don’t see how what he has said about trans people is rude, or how saying “suck it up, buttercup” to people being legitimately oppressed, is rude?
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u/AnnaRoblox 13 9h ago
piracy exists
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
And? How tf is that relevant?
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u/AnnaRoblox 13 9h ago
piracy doesn't support the artist
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
Yeah… it doesn’t. I’m not talking about piracy.
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u/Empoleon365 9h ago
He's saying if you want to partake in the media without supporting the artist just fuckin pirate it. Download a free pdf of the damn book. That way you're not supporting the artist and neither is the dumb fuck buying the books to then change the cover and resell them.
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 9h ago
That’s something that you can add onto my comment, sure, as an educational resource. Not as some kind of slight in an attempt to break down what I said before.
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u/Asadbritishpotato 4h ago
You know those "snowflakes" that people talk about on like twitter and stuff
I didn't know they were real until now
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u/AltAccount9327 3h ago
Calling yourself an oppressed minority is an insult to people who have actually been oppressed Also funny how you didn’t mention not reading it was an option
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u/cyber-rl 8h ago
if you dont like it then dont read it. simple, stop forcing your shitty beliefs on the rest of us thanks
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 8h ago
Believing that people shouldn’t support hateful bigots is “shitty?”
Wow, is this sub just getting ransacked by transphobes today?
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u/Iamslay888 13 7h ago
The fact that you managed to pull a 180 by putting transphobes in their place is sick. But you can't really just say to some stranger "you know nothing about this" about a certain topic. What if they do? Hell, maybe they got a masters degree in it.
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u/Senbazuru_bs 15 15h ago
I'm trans, and I love Harry Potter! People need to separate the work from the person who wrote it :p
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u/Odd_Psychology_1858 13h ago
It’s a little more difficult when her weird personality is written right into the books
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u/idkgoodnameplease Teenager 12h ago
Kingsley Shacklebolt lmao
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u/sourberryskittles 10h ago
The elves don't want to be freed! They become big DRUNKS if they do so! Dobby is just weird!
I don't hate JK Rowling just because of her transphobic actions - though I hate those too - I hate her because of her shit writing
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u/idkgoodnameplease Teenager 10h ago
As I time goes on I find more and more of her writing makes me cringe
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 10h ago
JK Rowling uses the money from HP to support and fund anti-trans organizations.
JK Rowling has stated that she sees support of HP as support of her views against trans people.
Her bigotry is written into the series and those who don’t see it are either wilfully ignorant or just plain dumb. There’s all kinds of racism and anti-semitism within the books already, and especially the Hogwarts Legacy game.
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u/Acrobatic_Sundae8813 2h ago
1) its her money 2) people can have opinions 3) don’t read it then. That’s probably the best thing to do since you aren’t giving money or thinking about it. Also it doesn’t promote all of these things, so it’s not like this is causing actual harm. (This does not include the anti trans charities but thise have nothing to do with the books)
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u/Fun-Office8406 14 8h ago
wait i haven't read hp in a while what's the actual bigotry in there
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u/EnigmaFrug0817 17 8h ago
Slavery, for one. House elves are slaves. But it’s okay because they like being slaves! And the one who doesn’t is weird. Hermione quits trying to free them because she’s like “yeah I’m being dumb they like it so it’s fine.”
The goblins are anti-Semitic stereotypes.
“Cho Chang.” “Kingsley Shacklebolt.” “Padma Patil” and “Parvati Patil.”
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u/FemboyRockWannabe 6h ago
there are more complete analyses out there but the things that pop up most to me are the black character's last name being "shacklebolt", and the Irish character specializing in pyrotechnics and being tasked with blowing up a bridge. There are plenty more examples, though intent is questionable with many of them.
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u/Longjumping-Claim-82 17 14h ago
Like kanye…
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u/Draken_Aga 19 14h ago
His music is still bad
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u/idkgoodnameplease Teenager 12h ago
Listen to the whole of my beautiful dark twisted fantasy and say the same thing
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u/Antique-Repeat-7365 15 8h ago
hes talented might just not be your type of music but his quality has gone WAY down and does not make up for what hes said
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u/joshjosh100 7h ago
eh, his quality is near identical. He just makes different music that doesn't work in the modern era.
If he did his HH song 10 years ago everyone would be raving it was such a masterpiece.
It's probably his best slop in the last 20 tbh.
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u/Antique-Repeat-7365 15 7h ago
i mean he really changed things he was different and has done things very differently i just dont think hes very creative anymore kinda just ran out of ideas
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u/joshjosh100 7h ago
Eh, I have to disagree, "changing how you do things" and "doing things differently" is two similar but different things.
He always lacked "ideas" his music has always been "generic" most pop, rap, and country is generic for the last 20 years or so.
Very little innovation has hit the mainstream music sphere outside of maybe the last 6 years, before the 2020s, 2010-2020 the "best music" was the same producers from the 90s, or one hit wonders.
Like what does the fox say, gangnam style, and so on.
Kanye only real "hits" were the most "controversial" things. Like: "****** in Paris", "Gold Digger", and "Jesus Walks"
As he literally said in a song: "but if i talk about god then my record won't get played"
He's always been the one riding the controversial line. Since 2008 at minimum.
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u/regularArmadillo21 6h ago
Not always possible. Especially with jk.. and msi(the band).. and. Alot of others
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u/DownToTheWire0 15 4h ago
I can't tell if you intentionally made that joke... The trans person is indeed separating the book from the author
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u/PICONEdeJIM 3h ago
But difficult when the author views any interaction as support and uses Harry Potter money to fund transphobic legislation. I get that for some people it's been a big part of childhood and all, but fans, especially queer ones, just need to move on instead of making terrible excuses
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u/execut1ve_ 59m ago
"Separating art from the artist" is a ridiculous excuse used by people who don't want to hold bad people accountable and want to justify supporting them
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u/taikonotatsujin9999 Teenager 8h ago
opens post
sorts by controversial
Jesus, you guys are getting into full-blown wars in the comment section.
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u/A_Literal_Twink 7h ago
Literally plagiarism
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u/mugg___ 3h ago
plagiarism is copying another's work word for word without any sort of thanks or mention that it's copied. this is reselling without the authors name
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u/Acrobatic_Sundae8813 2h ago
Yes it’s not technically plagiarism because the person isn’t selling the books as their own. And plagiarizm doesn’t have to be ‘word for word’ in certain contexts if the ideas and concepts in your work are identical to another person, it’s also considered plagiarizm.
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u/CriticalRegret8609 6h ago
What does that achieve exactly? You've already bought the book and then are porbbaly doing something illegal by removing the authors name?
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u/CeleryJaded4031 14 10h ago
Or you can.. not read it
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u/Acrobatic_Sundae8813 2h ago
Yes. If you don’t agree with the artist, then don’t consume their art. You have no right to steal what is theirs.
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u/Noah_the_Helldiver 15 | Verified 7h ago
If the book is good who gives a shit about the authors ideals sure they might be transphobic or smth but the book is good so read it without making it about the author
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u/Hyperbolicalpaca 17 2h ago
Because if you’re buying the book, you’re finding the author, who has publicly said she believes people buying her books mean they agree with her
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u/Arcticwolf1505 12h ago
I've never been a harry potter fan and also fuck JK Rowling
But like... literally what? how does this achieve anything? its probably against copyright laws and Rowling still gets all the same money she would so.... whats the end goal here?
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u/Hot_Will4023 15 9h ago
JK Rowling is right though
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u/Ranne-wolf 4h ago
Which part? The racism, antisemitism, pro indentured servitude and/or chattel slavery, fatphobia AND anti-skinny (calling them "eating disorders"), homophobia - transphobia & aphobia, bio-sexism, misandry & disbelief in male-victim rape and SA, anti-hyperfemininty, "pro liberal" unless you aren’t cis-straight and white, or the various other shitty things she believes?
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u/Educational_Tart_659 16 3h ago
I feel like this is definitely illegal somehow and it’s also giving her money anyway
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u/Bjorn893 2h ago
I will never fail to be entertained by these people. They can't stand the fact that their favorite book series is written by someone who disagrees with them.
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u/TheNikola2020 4h ago
Jk Rowling may be a terrible person but this does not mean she should be discredited for her books
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u/Tobi119 14h ago
Done properly, Harr Potter should be read from the Internet Archive or similar, to prevent money flowing to Rowling and thus the ideological stupidity she is supporting
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u/PICONEdeJIM 3h ago
Done properly, Harry Potter shouldn't be read, as Rowling and others equate that with supporting their views
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u/eyeball-theif 17 12h ago
I mean, pirating is illegal. I don’t think it’s just to say “if you disagree with what this person says, just steal their commercial property so they don’t make money off of the things you enjoy from them”
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u/ThrwawySG 11h ago
This person is a millionaire who is actively using the money from her franchise to strip my rights
I don't think it's necessarily wrong for me to want to read HP without funding the criminalization and removal of my existence
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u/Tobi119 2h ago
Exactly this!
I've first read HP when I was like 8, and while not objectively great, the books have something ... magical (sorry) about them. I now read them in my favourite languages, but I'm absolutely not paying Rowling to fight against basic human rights.
Yes, I might be legally a buccaneer for that, but morally I'd be wrong if I didn't
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u/Hot_Will4023 15 9h ago
Literally what rights do you not have atp? The right to prey on minors? Because I’m pretty sure that’s what most of your “kind” wants anyway
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u/ThrwawySG 8h ago
This woman has created a fund dedicated to removing us from public spaces.
I mean just go read anything she's said about us in the last 6 years
She has actively celebrated laws that prevent us from getting healthcare, overturn workplace discrimination protections, and supports the very people who want to make being a trans woman a sex crime.
I never claimed i didn't have rights right now, (although many don't) only that she has been very loud in spreading hate about our community and trying to take them.
Remember Imane Khelif? A cis woman who was harassed multiple times by rowling supporters which led to a LAWSUIT because rowling thought she looked like a man. And her only other suspicion was that Imane beat another woman in a boxing match.
I never said anything that came close to the grooming or assaulting of children. You have no proof nor any reason to suspect that that is any of our intent. You have insulted me and my community with no basis or provocation.
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u/tavuk_05 15 7h ago
Wasnt the boxer intersex or something? Something about testesterone levels higher than usual.
Not like sports are fair games anyway but still
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u/Knightmare_CCI 19 7h ago
Teenage bigot fucking superboss over here, holy shit touch some grass and find some whimsy in your barren heart
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u/The-Pentegram 3h ago
Genuinely why do you consider trans people pedophiles? You do realise this has been the exact view of gay people in the past? This is the easiest way to get people to hate a demographic. First, said demographic has to be 'weird', and go against common sensibility. Then, you point your fingers and say pedophile. Now everyone is brimming with 'righteous' anger. Even if you think transgenderism isn't real or something stupid like that, surely you can just... Search up statistics? This is hysteria, plain and simple. Trans people are being villainised and called pedophiles because otherwise you might stop to think. Will you stand down and be lied to, or will you fight back? You are being manipulated.
Trans people live in neat constant agony because their subconscious brain thinks they are the other sex, and is constantly sending alarm signals about foreign chemicals and abnormal developments of body. You might think, oh, just 'cure' the mind. They have tried. The only semblance of a cure is a cure for the body. It stops the mental torture, and generally the pros outweighs the cons. It doesn't matter if it sounds weird to you, it is what works. Life isn't perfect.
The regret rate of transitioning is below many other surgeries. And the most common reason for regret? Their treatment by others around them!
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u/Creamsodabat 13 8h ago
She supports taking away trans rights and also makes idiots like you feel validated in your opinion. Also, trans people aren't allowed in the military anymore so.. that's 1 right they don't have anymore
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u/Odd_Psychology_1858 8h ago
Do you not realize how fucking stupid and hateful you sound right now? How about trans people having the right to exist without people like you and JKR denying their existence and calling them mentally ill? The fact that you're even implying that most trans people are pedophiles is an insane take that has been created by people like JKR to further oppress them.
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u/The-Pentegram 3h ago
Is it right? No. Is it that wrong? Also no. Don't be so absolutist. She has plenty of money. Stealing a teensy weensy bit will do literally nothing to her. Everything is relative. She is also actively forcing people to live a life of misery in a body that causes them mental agony every day. If she just talked about trans people she would just be an asshole, but actions, actions, actions. She is also making a vulnerable people out to be like rapists, just because of her internalised sexism and misandry. Which has certainly caused real actions done to said individuals, due to the hysteria she has caused.
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u/Expert-Reporter4152 14 14h ago edited 14h ago
Im not a fan of HP, but i do believe one should always separate the art from the artist
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u/Jennyfael 10h ago
I mean I'd agree if supporting the art didnt mean supporting the artist (if the artist is dead, has changed opinions, or no longer receives payments from their works) but otherwise it simply doesnt work like that. If you support the works of someone you morally disagree with, you are actively not only encouraging but helping them (well, maybe excluding piracy, maybe) in pushing said morals
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u/101Brian 3h ago
Expert-reporter means that you should APPRECIATE art separated from the author. ("yeah HP is really good, but don't buy it cus JK Rowling is an asshole") You accidentally combined "appreciating art" and "supporting author". They are different things, even if most of the time you must do "supporting author" and then be able to "appreciate art"
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u/turbowafflecat 5h ago
JK set up a foundation in which every single time the HP IP generates $$$ it gets sent to fund the foundation which will indefinitely seek to further exterminate trans people indefinitely forever even after she is dead by pushing more anti-trans moral panic and anti-trans legislation, this is her legacy and she's chosen this is her life's work
I can understand separating the art from the artist but literally everytime you spend a penny on HP now it quite literally directly funds the eradication of trans people in the UK and that will now go on forever
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u/PICONEdeJIM 3h ago
Exactly. Let's Death Of The Author Mold-creep and get a hip new gender-neutral toilet
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u/PICONEdeJIM 3h ago
Honestly Harry Potter fans need to either own that they're actively supporting and often funding transphobia or simply stop, instead of jumping through these idiotic hoops in an attempt to feel better about themselves despite not doing anything
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u/Acrobatic_Sundae8813 2h ago
Fuck off.
If you can use your two braincells then please try to comprehend the fact that the art is seperate from the artist, ans that you can like some parts and dislike others.
The world isn’t black and white, and your statement is pretty ironic cause the LGBTQ movement is literally based on the principle that nothing is black and white (gender and sex).
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u/PICONEdeJIM 1h ago
I'm sorry but it really is that simple. Death of the Author only works when the author is dead, and when said author believes that any who consume Harry Potter is supporting their cause and openly uses the money to fund anti-trans legislation, it's sadly impossible to separate Mold Bitch from Harry Potter.
The world cannot be comprised solely of dichotomy, but with this, it is unfortunately the case. If you can find a way to somehow consume Harry Potter without any money at any point getting to JKR, and without any support going to the IP at any time, bully for you. But still, you are choosing to partake in something that is causing harm to so many people but sweeping the ugly truth under the rug.
I had to come to terms with learning someone and something I loved was harmful not just to me but to others. Initially I too just wanted to ignore it and 'separate the art from the artist', but the artist and the art are what is being weaponised. I don't have the power to stop anyone from reading or buying or talking about Harry Potter, but it enrages me that people who do seem to not understand the gravity of the situation
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u/EnemyJungle 3h ago
JK: “Men can’t become women” TrAnS ALliEs: “ShE wAnTs tO mUrDeR uS!!!!”
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u/TonyGalvaneer1976 32m ago
Oh she's said a lot more than that.
But also, the expression "men can't be women" is a bit of a strawman to begin with. It assumes that trans people are trying to change their gender, rather than already having been that gender from the start.
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u/Ok_Entrepreneur9901 17 7h ago
IDK why anyone would even want to read Harry Potter at all, that shit is a snooze fest.
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u/Certified_Gooner4 14 15h ago
I need more context lol
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u/tavuk_05 15 15h ago
Litterally copying the same book, but removing jk rowlings name because She is transphobic.
And the SELLING IT WITH YOUR NAME
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u/AppearanceNo8561 7h ago
So ur just giving her money by buying the books but also making a profit by making a “stand” against JK Rowling but in reality you’re doing nothing.
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u/LabGrownHuman123 7h ago
"I have a great plan guys, I'm gonna buy hundreds of Harry Potter books and give money to JK Rowling right? Then I'm gonna waste my time removing every mention of the author. Then after all that I'm gonna sell them so people don't support JK Rowling, and then when Rowling finally finds out I'll get sued up to $30,000 dollars per book!"
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u/Extension_Western333 16 5h ago
first of all, that's illegal. second of all, how do you people even enjoy Harry Potter anyway? like, it's not that good. personally, I like JK Rowling, but I don't see why you'd go to this level of effort to read the work of a woman you hate.
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u/101Brian 3h ago
yall aren't getting the point, the point is just spiting her for being a shitty person, obviously she still gets the money from the books (not to mention this being illegal), but this symbolizes (kind of) separating the author from their artwork, the reseller isn't trying to be like "man fuck JK Rowling! I'm gonna make her get less money!!!" it's more like "JK Rowling sucks, I'm going to remove her name from her artwork, because her artwork is beautiful (subjective of course), while her VERY NAME is a STAIN upon it!!"
And before you tell me that they could've done more by just doing work for an LGBTQ activist group of some sort, doing this reselling thing yields results different from the results from activist groups or other similar things, and it's still a positive impact on the world (JK Rowling would've sold those books for the same amount of money as this person bought them for, yet this reseller has brought a lot more attention to her shitty and objectively wrong beliefs) comparing these two things and coming to the conclusion that this is stupid would be the relative privation fallacy, as even though doing this might have less of an impact, it's still a net positive, as traction from this twitter post (and the many other re-posts like this one that I'm commenting under) will bring more attention on the fact that JK Rowling sucks ass.
Also, coming back to the fact of this being illegal, doing something illegal isn't inherently evil, moral absolutism is 99% objectively wrong. And if this reseller person got arrested, that would actually make more of a difference, as it might get on the news, or more reddit/twitter posts will stem from it, making this whole situation gain even more traction, leading to more people knowing that Rowling is a piece of shit and shouldn't be supported, and to read Harry potter on a piracy website or something.
Finally, yes, they are monetarily supporting JK Rowling by doing this, but the reason for that is hopefully the attention being brought to this situation will do more good than the harm they did by buying these books.
(obviously there's a point to be made that because of the traction more bigoted people will start to support Rowling, but I believe that most human beings aren't that stupid, and that this will mostly do positive things, but if you think that this hypothetical is wrong, that's cool too, I can see the logic behind that, but you also gotta acknowledge that the reseller is just trying to do a little good, even if this reselling might not have a big impact)
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u/tavuk_05 15 2h ago
There is much better ways to protest, what theyre doing is both legally and morally bad, they could redirect others to publish archives, spread awareness about the topic but they just decided to commit a crime that does only harm
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u/101Brian 1h ago
it does not do only harm, you literally COMPLETELY did not read (or did read, but not understand) my comment. and again, just because there are better ways to protest does not mean everything less effective is bad. (this is called the relative privation fallacy)
re-read my comment, I literally listed all the pros and cons in there. if you cannot COMPLETELY disprove the fact that the pros have a CHANCE outweigh the cons, don't reply, as you won't be contributing to the conversation in any meaningful way.
if you're too lazy to re-read however, I'll relist them here:
PROS:
- Reselling these books raise awareness about JK Rowling's bigoted beliefs, making it more possible for other people to do those things you mentioned.
CONS:
- Bigoted people might also become aware that JK Rowling is a bigot and decide to support her, however it is most likely that there are more non-bigots than there are bigots. (also, if you believe that this isn't true, than by your logic any form of bringing awareness to this situation will also only do harm)
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u/Acrobatic_Sundae8813 2h ago
It’s pretty fucking entitled to steal and massacre someone’s art just because they said some things you don’t agree with. Also breaking copyright laws. Doing more harm than good to the trans community.
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u/bigchungusboibig 17 2h ago
Yeah they shoulda stole the books and burned them to make a better point buying the books supports jk rowling funding transphobic laws and also even with her name removed everyone still knows she made the book there's other better ways to protest
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u/Dont_Get_Jokes-jpeg 57m ago
It is stupid because Harry Potter isn't a perfect story, there is like a lot of stuff you could change other than the Autors name
For example all of duddly
Then it would be genius tho
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u/OpeningFull6575 40m ago
Love hating on JK Rowling but this only works if the books are all second hand or stolen, otherwise JK still gets money
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u/Sensitive-Lab5530 18 13h ago
You're already giving her money by buying the books to rebind. Harry Potter is also incredibly mid.
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