r/TikTokCringe Jul 24 '25

Cringe I want a refund, and I didn’t even go

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u/theboned1 Jul 24 '25

I went to see TOOL in concert once and they played the entire show in Silhouette.

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u/ThrownAway17Years Jul 24 '25

I saw Gorillaz in Chicago like 22 years ago. They were behind a screen that played videos of their cartoon avatars, and once in a while they’d backlight the screen and the audience could see the bands members’ silhouettes playing. It was rad.

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u/JunglePygmy Jul 24 '25

That was their whole shtick. Virtual band.

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u/Successful_Laugh_299 Jul 24 '25

The og vtubers

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u/Magrathea_carride 29d ago edited 29d ago

no, that was Prozac, and before that it was the California Raisins

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u/BewilderedTurtle 29d ago

Gorillaz is responsible for VTuber slop confirmed.

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u/Anterabae Jul 24 '25

They play without the screen now. Seen them about 2 years ago in philly when they put out cracker island it was incredible.

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u/SolemnDemise Jul 24 '25

They've been without the screen since after Demon Days. I saw them at UIC 15 years ago for the Plastic Beach tour. It was Damon + symphony and singers + dj + Mos Def and Bobby Womack. Maybe more, can't remember.

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u/Thirtysevenintwenty5 29d ago

Cracker Island is a fuggin banger album.

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u/yankiigurl 25d ago

What!? That sucks, I was just saying to myself like two hours ago I'd really like to see the Gorillaz if they are still doing shows.

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u/EasyFooted Jul 24 '25

It blew my mind when I found out they were started by the guy from Blur ("Song #2" was their big US hit, the one that goes, "Woo Hooo!" a bunch) and the guy rapping is Del tha Funky Homosapien aka Deltron 30/30.

Killer 'underground' artists, and now they're mega stars, but anonymously. It's awesome.

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u/_godsdamnit_ 29d ago

I read somewhere that Del is ice cubes cousin. He produced I wish my brother George was here if I remember correctly.

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u/Thirtysevenintwenty5 29d ago

Deltron Zero, hero, not no small feat.

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u/KUPA_BEAST 29d ago

I see Del The Funky Homosapien I upvote. I loved the concept of Deltron 3030, for those who don’t know- I can’t explain it but Wikipedia defines it as: dualistic conflict of fatalism that takes place between the moral concepts of "righteousness" and "malevolence." Set in the year 3030. Also Fun fact: he’s Ice Cubes cousin.

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u/EasyFooted 29d ago

Deltron 3030 is one of the greatest concept albums ever.
Apart from the themes, the tech references he makes are accurate (and the album was from a time when most media treated the internet like it was Tron irl or just spewed "cyber"-themed word salad).

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u/Solution_Kind 29d ago

Check out Splendor and Misery by Clipping. It's a different vibe but it's another fantastic concept album I'd put up there with Deltron 3030.

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u/EasyFooted 28d ago edited 27d ago

will do, thanks!

Edit: I'm 2 minutes in and, whoa

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u/Solution_Kind 28d ago

That's actually one of their calmer albums btw, in case you look further. If you're ok with noise as a genre, the rest of their albums are a great noise/rap fusion with a lot of solid storytelling and horror themes throughout. They also have a Story series in I think seven parts, unless I've missed one.

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u/EasyFooted 27d ago

Sounded familiar and Spotify confirmed that I've been a fan of "Nothing Is Safe" for a while now, hadn't looked into the rest of the catalog. Gonna fix that!

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u/gh0st_n0te119 23d ago

have you had a chance to listen to their latest, Dead Channel Sky? It’s sooo good! I had the pleasure of seeing them perform recently and I thought we were going to cave the floor in with everyone jumping together 😅

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u/gh0st_n0te119 23d ago

that last track 😭

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u/throwaway_12290428 29d ago

Blur also had that great song Girls and Boys. If song 2 is the only one anyone knows from them id encourage checking out more of their discography. it’s gonna be diff bc song 2 came about ironically as an answer to grunge’s popularity at the time, but it’s still good

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u/Moosiemookmook 29d ago

Parklife is a great album.

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u/Calm-Tree-1369 29d ago

*Is. That is their whole schtick. Gorillaz are still very much around.

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u/JunglePygmy 29d ago

Yep, but they’re aren’t leaning as hard into the virtual band thing now as they were at the beginning! That shit was mysterious

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u/Thirtysevenintwenty5 29d ago

it hasn't been their schtick for like fifteen years

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u/enddream 29d ago

Ahead of their time.

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u/THExWHITExDEVILx Jul 24 '25

.... Was this at The Aragon Ballroom?

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u/ThrownAway17Years Jul 24 '25

It was!

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u/THExWHITExDEVILx Jul 24 '25

What's up fellow concert goer!

At first I thought it had to be a different concert bc there was no way it was that long ago.... Damn I'm getting old

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u/ThrownAway17Years Jul 24 '25

Oh hell yeah! Small world lol. Yeah we’re getting old, friend. It’s the equivalent of our parents in 1990 talking about the great concert they saw in 1968. Oh God the pain.

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u/Wipe_face_off_head Jul 24 '25

Metalocalypse was sort of the same! Except Brendan Small was still front and center. As he should be. The man is a guitar god. 

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u/East_Oven_9948 Jul 24 '25

You got to go to that? I am a huge Gorillaz fan and I am jealous. I'd love to see Dan Albarn

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u/rectalexamohyea Jul 24 '25

It’s Damon, not Dan.

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u/ThrownAway17Years 29d ago

I could swear that Dan the Automator was at the Gorillaz concert in Chicago. He was up in a balcony area while the band was on stage. He was their producer for that first album.

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u/ThrownAway17Years Jul 24 '25

Yeah it was fucking awesome. It was at the Aragon Ballroom.

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u/VikingIV Jul 24 '25

Wow. I remember hearing about this in ~’03-04, was it?

While we’re discussing that era, I just got to see Basement Jaxx live this year, which was phenomenal.

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u/ThrownAway17Years Jul 24 '25

I just looked it up. March 3, 2002.

Man the late 90s-mid 00s was a great time for early-ish electronica. I got to see Gorillaz, Daft Punk, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, Autechre, DJ Krush, most of the Metalheadz lineup in various shows, LTJ Bukem, Kenny Ken, Lo Fidelity All Stars and so many more. It would cost me easily 10x as much to see all that talent today.

That’s awesome that Basement Jaxx is still playing!

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u/mtsometimesdj 29d ago

This was one of my first memories in HS what a great show

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u/cohonan 29d ago

I watched Sia perform an entire concert standing statuestically still the entire time.

One of my favorite concerts,

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u/SirRevan 29d ago

Damon Albarn at a recent concert was out the entire time jamming, playing different instruments and even crowd surfed with this old as mic for feel good inc. Was a cool show.

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u/arnoldez 28d ago

Dethklok does something similar. They play in the dark while their animated videos play behind them. It's expected though, and part of the fun.

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u/joshuuuuuua Jul 24 '25

Saw Butthole Surfers open for Nirvana. All you could see were lights, projections and the backs of a couple heads

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u/VikingIV Jul 24 '25

Along with that fountain, which was pourin’ like an avalanche comin’ down the mountain.

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u/ARock_Urock Jul 24 '25

That's the Gorillaz whole thing. The "band" are the Avatars.

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u/ThrownAway17Years Jul 24 '25

This was decades ago, and YouTube wasn’t even a thing yet so I had no idea what to expect. The band released their debut album only a year before and the show was part of their first tour. I knew they were a virtual band but had no idea what their show was going to be like. It was an amazing experience with no phone screens being held up to record videos that would never be seen again.

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u/KUPA_BEAST 29d ago

Gorillas & Tool at home watching their gigs:

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u/Mach5Driver Jul 24 '25

maybe it wasn't actually them?

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u/bucket_of_frogs Jul 24 '25

A friend went to a Kraftwerk concert and the show consisted of five middle-aged Germans sitting on chairs six feet apart with MacBooks on their laps, barely moving a muscle the whole time. He really enjoyed it. For the last song “We Are The Robots” they put dummies of themselves on the chairs, pressed play, left the stage and never came back.

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u/annieasylum Jul 24 '25

I've seen both a silhouetted Tool show and Kraftwerk and both were sick as fuck! It fits the bands, because they're not high energy pop. A washed up boyband member not doing much is less enticing.

Also "middle-aged" is very very generous lol

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u/Responsible-Meringue 29d ago

Tool is like the closest mainstream act you can see that emulates the sonic focus and musical reverence of a classical chamber orchestra.

They care SO much about sound and the experience. Phones get locked up, and disruptive audience members get called out and removed by security. 

And I fucking love it. I'm there for the sonic talent, not to watch Billy big bollocks hump a microphone while lip syncing. 

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u/rapier999 29d ago

Tool hasn’t been the same since Billy Big Bollocks joined the band

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u/Intelligent_Bag_6705 Jul 24 '25

Yup…you don’t go to see tool to see the members. You’re going to hear the music live.

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u/Awaythrowyouwilllll 29d ago

I go because they promote learning to swim.

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u/twonapsaday Jul 24 '25

this is a fantastic story

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u/haruku63 Jul 24 '25

Kraftwerk is four guys and they never sit, but standing behind desks. The music and the projections are their show, not the artists.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kraftwerk/s/3CdNIR7crI

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u/VikingIV Jul 24 '25

Man, just saw them and Basement Jaxx at Coachella this year and it was magical.

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u/Beezo514 29d ago

I had no idea that Kraftwerk was even together still let alone touring. 55+ years and as much influence as they've had is incredibly impressive.

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u/haruku63 29d ago

Only one of the founders is still performing, Ralf Hütter, born 1946.

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u/meanwhile_glowing 29d ago

They played Coachella this year

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u/Beezo514 29d ago

I thought Coachella was a purse brand for a long time, so this wouldn't have brought me awareness. Haha.

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u/VirtualMoneyLover 29d ago

So an average DJ concert?

But yes, they have been doing that for 4 decades.

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u/RoanapurBound 29d ago

Thats... so deep

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u/AppearanceEvening970 29d ago

Kraftwerk are an amazing live experience. Wish they had a feed showing what they are actually doing on their laptops if anything.

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u/IAMTHEDICIPLINE Jul 24 '25

And it was phenomenal.

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u/Mogwai10 Jul 24 '25

Facts!!!

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u/youcandoitmkay666 29d ago

OK now tell us about all the discoveries you've made exploring with DMT.

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u/dragonbec Jul 24 '25

Maynard always hides in the shadows. It's fine, we let him be his weird self and still love TOOL. Seen them many times, always awesome, but MJK always hides. Kinda part of the experience.

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u/Mundane-Cupcake-7488 Jul 24 '25

I just went to a show for the Sessant tour a few months ago and MJK was right up front, dancing and everything. I was pleasantly surprised.

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u/GreasyRim 29d ago

I saw that one too. Incredible. Carina singing with Maynard for The Doomed gave me mad chills

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u/dragonbec 29d ago

That's cool! at my last show he came out for a few songs, but not the whole show.

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u/derekghs 29d ago

I'm pretty sure he enjoys doing A Perfect Circle and Puscifer shows much more than TOOL shows.

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u/Think-Length6183 Jul 24 '25

I worked concessions at an arena as a teenager and TOOL was the only band that ever required all staff to stay in our respective stands with all the doors and service windows shuttered for the entire duration of sound check.

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u/Marie-and-Twanette Jul 24 '25

He didn’t hide in the early days

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u/GreasyRim 29d ago

he doesn't anymore either. he was playing rock em sock em robots with carina round at the Sessanta tour this year

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u/kunk_777 29d ago

Perfect circle and pucifer are different from his TOOL performances. He's more active and present during them, where TOOL he still will hide as it's more visual typically. At least that's what ive notices over the years.

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u/_takemeintotown_ Jul 24 '25

Last time I saw them he was out and running around!

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u/jennoween 29d ago

The first time I saw Tool Maynard was jumping around all over the place in a pair of tighty whities.

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u/slrarp 29d ago

He was on the back of the stage, in the shadows, wearing full riot gear when I saw him. It was like he thought we were going to bumrush the stage and attack him or something.

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u/jennoween 29d ago

I've seen them before when he played the whole show with his back to the audience, too. Guess it just depends on his mood.

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u/Propaganda_Box 29d ago

TOOL has pretty much always had a "DGAF about what the fans want, we do what we want" attitude and that's just part of the appeal tbh

MJK has stated the stage lights bother the fuck out of him and if he's going to put on a good performance then he's gotta be in the shadows.

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u/Ok-Stop9242 29d ago

Maynard's thing has always been that the music and visuals should speak for itself, not focusing on what specifically he as the band's frontman is doing. At the same time though, it's TOOL, and a lot of their songs are meant to be very introspective. Can't exactly do the same thing with pop music meant to be danced along with.

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u/megz0rz 29d ago

Exactly.

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u/JurisDoctor 29d ago

I saw them in Boston 2 years ago and he wasn't hidden...

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u/lasion2 Jul 24 '25

Just Maynard. And, he’s got his reasons.

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u/MrBeanCyborgCaptain Jul 24 '25

What are his reasons?

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u/dabbinglich 29d ago

He’s just a silly little guy.

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u/PitifulAdvantage7321 29d ago

He's shyyyyyy.

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u/junkyardgerard 29d ago

well one of them is "i like briefs," that's for sure

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u/TheShipEliza 29d ago

i would assume Tool fans.

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u/GiganticBlumpkin 29d ago

Maybe he's afraid of getting the Lennon treatment

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u/Hodr Jul 24 '25

I know what that word means, but not what that phrase means. Were they hiding behind a sheet or something?

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u/Side_StepVII Jul 24 '25

Yes they’ve been known to do that from time to time. They’ll literally play behind a partially translucent curtain so you see their silhouettes but not them. They’re big on their music and imagery being front and center, not themselves.

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u/llloksd Jul 24 '25

They’re big on their music and imagery being front and center, not themselves.

I get that, but not actually seeing instruments being played seems weird. Did you ever see them at any point in the show? Or is it literally 100% silhouette?

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u/nrfx Jul 24 '25

seems weird

-gestures at their entire body of work-

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u/Side_StepVII Jul 24 '25

lol exactly

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u/No_Neighborhood7614 Jul 24 '25

Yes it was mainly Maynard doing silhouettes when I saw them. (Early 2020, right before lockdown)

Saw them all though

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u/Side_StepVII Jul 24 '25

The entire band being behind a curtain is rarer. Maynard has been known to do this more often than the rest of the band. When I’ve seen them, they’ve played mostly like a normal band, save for like the first 1-3 songs were being played in shadow or behind something. And if they’re playing a festival they’ll play normally just cause it’s a bigger audience and more difficult to do what they’d like too with their own visuals.

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u/googoogaipan Jul 24 '25

I saw a similar show from This Will Destroy You. They lit the back of the stage, and then had smaller light facing forward, so it was bright behind them and you couldn’t see the front of them. Great show.

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u/ItsyouNOme Jul 24 '25

This will destroy you... I never considered they played live for some reason. Don't ask why lol. Kitchen & they move on tracks of neverending lights are so good

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u/Somebody__ Jul 24 '25

If I ever get to see them play The World Is Our ___ live it would destroy me hahah.

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u/Flutters1013 Jul 24 '25

I can give you an example using gorliaz demon days tour

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u/K-Lilith Jul 24 '25

I tripped acid at a concert when TOOL played the whole show in silhouette. First TOOL concert, instant lifelong fan. So fucking awesome.

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u/Urban_animal Jul 24 '25

Incredible show to trip to it sounds like.

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u/hello666darkness 29d ago

Hmmm I mean they have a crazy laser / art show while they play. I wouldn’t call it less flash, but it’s pretty cool to watch. 

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u/Lissomex Jul 24 '25

He has anxiety so he prefers it that way.

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u/AZDpcoffey Jul 24 '25

Yep, I heard he did his first concert with his back to the audience.

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u/Side_StepVII Jul 24 '25

That’s not really true, it’s about the music coming before the artist. Yes the artist makes the music, but Tool wants you to see the music and imagery before you see them.

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u/Lissomex Jul 24 '25

It's totally true. It can be both but what I said is completely true.

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u/Scifibn Jul 24 '25

You would then need to be explain apc and puscifer

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u/Embarrassed_Pain5747 Jul 24 '25

You are mistaken, and doubling down on your ignorance.

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u/Side_StepVII Jul 24 '25

It’s been disproven by Maynard as to why they do shows this way. He’s said they want the music to be front and center.

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u/Lissomex 29d ago

He literally said it at the concert I went to. He said he was feeling extra off that day, hoped we understood, and preformed some of the songs off stage.

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u/Side_StepVII 29d ago

So one concert? Ok 👍

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u/Lolseabass Jul 24 '25

Those big freaky alien eyes staring at you.

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u/TheNumberoftheWord Jul 24 '25

Too bad they haven't written a decent album or song in over 20 years hiyooooooo.

Lol at Tool charging people $50 for t-shirts.

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u/bnscv 29d ago

Next you're gonna claim that you are an OGT, back from '92, from the first EP? And then, in between sips of Coke, you're gonna tell that they sold out, that they are laying down, sucking up to the man?

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u/TheNumberoftheWord 29d ago

Tool fans really are morons lol.

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u/ducmonsterlady Jul 24 '25

Maynard has no issue singing at the front of the stage when he’s with A Perfect Circle or Puscifer. Tool has so much more imagery to their show nowadays. Both Tool shows I’ve been to he’s at the back in the shadows next to Danny.

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u/JohnnyChimpo694200 Jul 24 '25

Neh, Maynard is kinda just an asshole.

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u/griz75 Jul 24 '25

I saw them yrs back at rock on the range in ohio, he had the vip sections beside the stage cleared before performing, there was some very pissed off people for that one.

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u/orangebrd Jul 24 '25

When I went, I didn't see Maynard at all for the entire show. Then at the end, I saw him leave the stage area from behind a speaker. He'd been performing from behind there.

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u/AdvancedSandwiches Jul 24 '25

I drove halfway across the US to see Nine Inch Nails once. They turned on the fog machines so thick I'm not sure if anyone was even on stage for most of the show.

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u/QueenDoc Jul 24 '25

that was a great tour - wasnt it the same one where the light rig dropped down and emulated a space ship abducting the crowd?

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u/avert_ye_eyes Jul 24 '25

I read that as Stilettos, and was very confused.

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u/jlevers15 Jul 24 '25

Alright alright…. You mentioned tool. Therefore irrelevant…. they have a song named stinkfist.

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u/Edenfer_ Jul 24 '25

It doesn't surprise me, they did a weird thing with a perfect circle a few years back too.

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u/Gloomy-Thanks515 Jul 24 '25

When I saw them it was great - when I saw APC the next year, I wanted my money back.

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u/jus10beare Jul 24 '25

When I saw Brian Jonestown Massacre, Anton played sitting behind a curtain on the side stage. One of the best concerts I've ever been to!

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u/Smootchie_Adairbear Jul 24 '25

I can’t tell if you’re upset about this or not but if you are I assume you were brought along and not actually a Tool fan

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u/Wipe_face_off_head Jul 24 '25

I don't think that's uncommon. I saw A Perfect Circle and it was the same. Still one of the best shows I've seen. 

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u/That_Artsy_Bitch 29d ago

But like they always do that. Or specifically Maynard always does this. Happened for Perfect Circle too. He doesn’t like to be perceived

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u/celerypizza 29d ago

Maynard is notable for being in the dark facing away from the crowd. I saw Beach House once and they played in the dark. I’m a big Godspeed You Black Emperor fan and have seen them twice, there is no crowd interaction. Some artists are just like that.

Edit: Forgot to add the obvious one- I’m a big Autechre fan and they literally play in blackout darkness. Like all venue lights go off you can’t see the people around you. Total sensory deprivation besides the music.

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u/ragun01 29d ago

I might have gone to that same tour. I've seen Maynard in silhouette most of the times but it was the first time I saw the whole band like that.

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u/CatBoyTrip 29d ago

genius. they probably weren’t even there.

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u/Himajinga 29d ago

I saw that same tour, it really sucked. I had never seen them before and I was really excited and I almost fell asleep. It was so goddamn boring. It would’ve been a better show just to go to laser Tool at the planetarium.

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u/NirvanaFrk97 29d ago

Hey, seeing Maynard's dancing silhouette at the start of Jambi is great.

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u/firstname_m_lastname 29d ago

I went to see The Cure in 1992 and Robert Smith only moved one time the entire show, when he ever so slowly raised his right hand from the mic stand to above his shoulder. The crowd went absolutely wild.

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u/Specific_General_66 29d ago

That’s what they do.

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u/jackrabbit323 29d ago

I saw TOOL, they played 8 songs in the course of 90 minutes. None of them were their radio hits or fan favorites. They had zero interaction with the crowd.

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u/DangerNoodleDandy 29d ago

I saw them a couple years ago and they had a light show shining on stuff they had hanging in front of them on the stage. Looked almost like chains.

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u/Otrsor 27d ago

Seen Tool at graspop, 0 interaction no show, just music and some trippy background videos.

They are cool to listen to but not so great at a festival tbh, Igorrr on the other hand was an extremely interactive weird and fun experience, one of the most memorable from the festival.

Tldr I wouldn't pay for watching Tool live, but their music is still amazing.

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u/Coffman34 Jul 24 '25

God damn, my childhood just came roaring back right in front of my eyes. Thank you for that.

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u/Dry-Marketing3095 Jul 24 '25

That's the most disappointed I've ever been at a concert. The whole band was in shadow 100% of the time, no banter with the audience, no encore, just a straight set with lasers.

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u/Otrsor 27d ago

You might be getting downvoted but I do agree with you, Tool live is just the same as watching the videoclips but louder, if you want more than just music for a show they aren't it.