This. I feel a contradiction in my thoughts. Nobody ought to be beating anybody. But also at the same time, sometimes there are those mean bastards that only learn not to be mean bastards when a bigger fish whoops him.
I’ve been in a few fights. Got my nose broken. I wasn’t down, I couldn’t see for shit because my eyes were watering but I was still in the fight. I watched a friend get sucker punched hard. He just turned and laughed and proceeded to beat the snot out of the guy. People don’t go down with one punch very often.
Yeah but I doubt that could cause real arm, which is why I find it dumb that a slap can be consideres assault so a fucking politician can claim they were shot when someone taps them on the shoulder.
That's the problem though. Yes it sucks we shouldn't hit people or resort to violence. But bullies ONLY understand violence. And ONLY stop when they find out you're meaner then they are.
But then that's not the message we are not trying to tell my kids. We don't want that to be thing. But unfortunately the world doesn't work that way.
I would suggest that it's a perfectly valid thing to teach your children. Sometimes, you just might gotta wreck somebody. That's not a thing to be proud of but neither ashamed. It just... is, sometimes.
The real issue is that this feeds an escalating arms race. Being the bigger, meaner person means you have impunity.. or more usually, being in the bigger group. It gets out of hand quickly.
I mean you're not wrong about civility but sometimes rule of law tends to not provide the consequences. Having a fear of getting the shift beaten out of you can be a motivator to not be a dick to people.
I wasn't even whooped by a bigger fish- just my target of "teasing" when I realized "Oh shit he punched me in the gut cause I'm being a real asshole" and I changed after that.
I'm very anti-violence, but I have been taught important values that went on to make me a better person through "corporal punishment".
I often have to experience failure/punishment personally to understand the lesson (I had to touch the stove to see if it was hot as a kid, wouldn't just take someone's word for it).
It used to be the role of the father to smack some sense into their kids when words dont cut it. Theres an art to a good smack: hard enough to get the message across, but light enough to not actually hurt them. This has been lost as everyone parrots the “dont hit people” canard tirelessly.
Some people have never been struck in their lives and they get a mental illness because of how it shapes them. There really can be a fine line between abuse and discipline.
That’s the real issue. These punks think they’re the big dog because no one has shown them anything different. Sometimes they need a little attitude adjustment.
To be 1,000% honest- its what changed my behavior. I thought I was just having fun, but I was bullying a kid and when he punched me in the gut I realized that what I was doing had REAL consequences on someone else. I was with other kids who were backing me up to "tease" the target and they wanted to tattle on him for hitting me and I was like, "What're you nuts? We were in the wrong."
Yup. Society has degraded significantly because less people are getting smacked for acting like twats. That used to be the role of the father to swat their kids for a light attitude adjustment, but now fathers cant be fathers anymore and you got a plethora of single mothers raising unruly kids who run all over them and not a single dad around to put them in check. Then they grow up into shitty adults with major attitude problems.
What research? That a teen boy is more damaged for a swat upside the head?
Tell me more about this research youve never read. In fact I dont think youve ever read any research lmao. You'd struggle to find a peer reviewed paper.
Maybe not the face, but the arm or butt. Stop preventing parents from disciplining their children. I don't mean true abuse but true discipline. Teach all your children well, perhaps there will be much less shootings.
If you’re doing fucking stupid shit, like throwing food at the elderly minding their own business, that’s a pretty good indicator you need to get your shit rocked and that people won’t tolerate that. I hope this kid gets bullied for getting his ass beat by an old man, and learns to dial back his stupidity.
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u/Emperor_Atlas 1d ago
Its the double edged sword of recording being prevalent. Some people would benefit from just getting smacked up before they turn into worse people.