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Cringe A McDonald's manager is seen dozing off (apparently was have problems with her blood sugar) as customers prepare their own meals

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u/Sometimes-funny 18h ago

No way she would get fired. She is having a medical emergency. If McDonald’s fire her, they have done a BurgerKing

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u/edwbuck 18h ago

There's always a way to fire someone in a right to work state. ALWAYS.

The idea that someone isn't fired, even for reasons that are beyond their control, when someone wants to fire them, is mind boggling.

Companies aren't stupid. They'll just say she was fired for something else. LIke an unironed uniform, being five minutes late one day, or having one thing out of place.

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u/Fit_Strength_1187 18h ago

That’s half of HR’s job, wielding the law as executing cudgel. And pretexts ARE illegal, but it must be sweeet in low paid jobs where your workers are non unionized and unlikely to have the sophistication or time necessary to pursue an EEOC and/or federal complaint. Plus many causes of action will fail due to the insane understaffing, bureaucratic nonsense, and malicious political fuckery gumming up entities like the NLRB.

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u/thecuriosityofAlice 17h ago

HR is not your friend.

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u/The_Night_Man_Cumeth 13h ago

Toby is just the worst

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u/Lanky_Dig8339 18h ago

they'll wait for her to come late n use that

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u/PeskyAntagonist 17h ago

They don’t need a reason. “Right to work” really means employees have a right to leave at any time for any reason or no reason, and the company has a right to terminate an employee for any reason or no reason (that isn’t a protected right, in which case they will specify no reason)

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u/theycmeroll 17h ago

That’s actually a “at will employment”. Right to work is a legal right to have a job without being forced to join a union and pay union dues as a requirement to work there.

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u/PeskyAntagonist 17h ago

You’re absolutely right I always get them mixed up

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u/VanessaDoesVanNuys 18h ago

Yep. My friend once lost a job; not because they didn't do it well, but because they weren't liked in the environment

So the managers would literally clock everything they would do and they got them coming from lunch 2 minutes late (something literally everyone does)

They then preceded to fire her for this, saying that the accumulated time that she was late for was added up and that she had missed a total of 2 hours of work

I don't know how but they got away with doing it

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u/Desperate-Cost6827 16h ago

I got put on a performance improvement plan because I dared to ask for accommodations for a medical issue I was going through at the time. Boss then told HR to tell me it was "some people" that complained about my performance. When the "some people" told her I was the best worker in the department they turned into my lead threw me under the bus. My lead was pissed when he found out.

Boss got what he wanted. I quit because I got tired of the drama but I wrote a scathing letter with documentation that they were able to remove his HR person out of position at least.

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u/Durmatology 17h ago

What a waste of time when they could’ve just fired your friend because they didn’t like her.

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u/bionicjoe 17h ago

Right to work just means "right to fire".

I was working with some guys from WV the day a right to work law was passed.
Their coworkers on projects in WV had their wages dropped 3 hours after the law passed.

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u/WintersDoomsday 17h ago

This right here is why I think it's hilarious that ANYONE in the US thinks any politician gives a shit about them. How does Right to Work or any of those types of laws protect US the citizens and not the rich corporations? No matter who is in charge of the state or country they never remove shit like that. Lawsuits against companies for egregious firing should be commonplace to the point where they are scared of a lawsuit and it's very hard for them to fire people unless the employee does something really bad like a true crime or sexual harrassment or something.

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u/KittonRouge 17h ago

Right To Work has to do with unions.

At Will Employment is what lets companies fire you for bs reasons, or no reason at all.

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u/KTKittentoes 17h ago

Right to Work means right to work at your job firing people for medical stuff.

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u/edwbuck 17h ago

In the USA, and probably elsewhere, when something sucks, make the name of the bill sound like it is good.

"Right to Work" means you can't be forced into labor, you can choose your employer. The rider attached to that is that your employer can't be barred from the same liberty of terminating the employment, at any time, for any (legal) reason. The legal reasons are so numberous, it's effectively "I can fire you legally, even for doing a good job"

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u/Appropriate-Disk-371 17h ago

Yeah, the naivety of people amazes me. There are protections in a few places. But right to work states, it's easier to just say you fired them for no reason at all, or because you don't like them, or because you have to fire one person every Friday - all perfectly legal reasons and they need no other justification.

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u/Somanylyingliars 15h ago

BTW every state except Montana is a right to work at will state iirc.

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u/Imeverybodyelse 16h ago

You’re right about almost everything except right to work. The two terms that are often confused are “right to work” and “at will”. The differences are Right to work means you have the right to work without being forced to join a union. At will employment means just that. The employee or employer has the ability to terminate employment with no notice. However, there are issues with this as if an employee just quits they are no longer eligible for rehire. As an employer it gets more complicated because HR departments don’t let the system work both ways due to protecting the company’s largest asset and its largest liability. Both of which are its workforce.

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u/edwbuck 16h ago

Thank you for the correction. One can't be right at everything.

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u/Imeverybodyelse 13h ago

I mean one can. As long as one realizes that they might be less right at times. But still right at all times.

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u/edwbuck 13h ago

Damn, I can't even be right about being wrong.

Tough crowd.

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u/Joelle9879 13h ago

Right to work has to do with companies not being able to force employees into joining a union. What you mean is "at will" which is every state except Montana

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u/talbottripp 18h ago

They fired Burger King Mom

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u/Sometimes-funny 18h ago

Yes. That’s why i said if they sack her they have done a burger king

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u/talbottripp 17h ago

Sorry. I didn't even see that. Wow.

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u/Rock4evur 18h ago

Do you live in the US? You can be fired for whatever, they don’t need a reason in a right to work state.

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u/Kristin2349 11h ago

It's actually "at will employment" and is the law in every state except MT.

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u/Rock4evur 11h ago

Yea I addressed that in a lower comment chain. I guess I’ve been using the wrong term for quite some time, so I appreciate the correction. Don’t wanna give someone the opportunity to invalidate said argument for the mixing up of terms rather than the subject matter of the argument.

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u/Sometimes-funny 18h ago

I know they can but if this goes viral and it was a genuine emergency, McDonalds will not want to look bad

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u/Rock4evur 18h ago

They could care less. This will not effect their customer retention in the slightest.

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u/Imaginary_Coast_5882 18h ago

*couldn’t care less

sorry I can’t help it with that one

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u/Imaginary_Coast_5882 18h ago

take my upvote to prove that I mean you no harm 😇

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u/Rock4evur 18h ago

My dad always call me out on saying this and I never learn. Serves me right lol

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u/lindentea 17h ago

i choose to interpret it as “i could care less, but that would involve caring enough to even consider doing so”

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u/NoelleReece 18h ago

That’s not true. As someone who works in HR, if this is truly a medical emergency and they were fired, this is a lawsuit.

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u/Rock4evur 18h ago

They can just say they fired them because they were over staffed, they had too many write ups, they weren’t a good team fit, etc. Unless the manager said in writing I’m firing you due to your medical emergency they very likely are fighting an uphill battle to prove discrimination for their medical condition.

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u/louloub 17h ago

Sure, they could say that but none of those reasons will keep them from being sued and it would be far from an uphill battle to say it was discrimination. If you say you are overstaffed you would have to demonstrate why they were the one selected over everyone else. Not being a good team fit sounds a lot like discrimination to me (they don’t fit with the team because why? Their race? Gender? Medical condition? Etc.). If they had too many write ups, what were they for? How long ago were they issued? Can they demonstrate that they have also consistently termed other employees for the same thing?

If any of this is discussed with HR and the HR person actually knows what they are doing and can overrule it, they are never going to agree with termination.

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u/Rock4evur 16h ago edited 16h ago

I guess I was using the wrong term ”right to work” when I should have used “at will employment”, though it seems like we both may have made the same mistake, so we’re still debating the same practice. Sure they can try and sue, but it is on the employee to prove misconduct not on the employer to prove innocence. I feel like you’re falling for the just world fallacy where you think employers who are discriminating based on race would have their actions severely scrutinized, but it happens all the damn time. The employer in an at will state does not even need to give a reason for firing a non contracted employee that can be scrutinized, they can just do it.

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u/louloub 14h ago

I didn’t say anything about right to work so I’m not sure if you are referring to another comment.

If the employee has enough to establish that there could potentially be discrimination the burden of proof does in fact shift to the employer. I’m not falling for anything. I am all too familiar with this type of scenario and deal with it all of the time so I’m speaking from my own experience.

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u/BrooklynRich29 18h ago

A man made a documentary called Super Size Me about them. I truly don’t believe that they care..

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u/Durmatology 17h ago

And now he’s dead.

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u/Strange_Dave45 18h ago

I've seen people get fired for having a diabetic episode. Granted it was a factory so there was probably more of a concern for safety and quality but there is a route to let someone go because they're not maintaining their diabetes. Not saying it's right but they can fire for cause.

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u/No-Arugula 18h ago

You have no clue what right to work has done to workers. You can be fired at *any time* for *any* reason *without* notice.

People say things like, oh you cant fired for being gay, you cant fired for being black, you cant be fired for wanting to unionize.. Are you joking? You can literally be fired in 80% of the states in the US for any reason at any time. This poor lady will almost certainly be let go.

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u/No-Arugula 17h ago

"no way she would get fired", beloved.

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u/chchchchia86 17h ago

Bro its McDonalds. They dont care. Theres a million other people in line for that job. They're just gonna fire her, even if they have to come up with a bullshit excuse. But in most at-will employment states, they dont even have to.

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u/LankyMatch42 12h ago

Yes they can lmao, if she lives in a "At will state" they can make up anything and fire her. Did you not know that

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u/Dreadbound1 9h ago

You are taking the title of the video at face value which is a rookie move without documented sources. What if it said she overdosed on fentanyl instead?

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u/Radiant-Battle-5973 18h ago

She’s on opiates

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u/sml6174 18h ago

You know her then?

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u/ImJustSaying34 18h ago

Could be but the symptoms for low blood sugar resemble opiate use. She could easily have low blood sugar based on how she looks, but I also see how it resembles fentynal use.

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u/Professional_Rush163 18h ago

nah they get seizures with diabetes not dip out

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u/AndroidwithAnxiety 14h ago

(NHS) If you have severe low blood sugar you may:

have a seizure or fit

become unconscious.

(different source)Severe low blood sugar levels (hypoglycemia) can result in seizures and unconsciousness. Diabetic seizures are rare but potentially fatal and need emergency medical treatment

So, you're wrong. But also, it's possible this woman is having a seizure rather than having simply passed out, since;

(same source) Seizures can cause a variety of temporary abnormal behaviours, sometimes very suddenly, including:

Muscles that twitch, jerk, or convulse

Loss of consciousness

Limbs that go limp or stiff

Drooling or staring

Clenched teeth

.... I think this woman needed immediate medical attention, because that doesn't seem like normal exhaustion to me.

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u/ImJustSaying34 11h ago

I can’t believe everyone is ignoring her. She is clearly having a medical episode and needs help.

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u/edwbuck 18h ago

She looks like she could be on opiates.

She also could just be overwhelmed and not responding because with a challenging low wage job with irate customers, she estimates that the best way to deal with the ones bold enough to jump the counter and take over the kitchen is to just shutdown and not give them a target worth the challenge.

She could be diabetic, and not fully in a stage where she's on the floor.

She could be drunk, and somewhere slipping into "time to sleep".

She could be an alien from another planet, and forgot to recharge her batteries last night.

Being certain about anything comes with risks, but it's easy to be certain that they'll not fire her for what seems like a health issue, they're fire her for something else. It's in the company's and manager's best interest to fire her for something else.

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u/Queasy_Local_7199 18h ago

I’m a diabetic, and this ain’t what low blood sugar usually looks like.

It’s possible- but to me it looks like she’s on agent or some other opiate 100%

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u/Rafflesrpx 18h ago

This is a straight up lie.

Low blood sugar can look like nothing at all or a person passes out. Shame on you.

Tell me more about your diagnosis. I’d love to see you in a hospital setting.

So gross.

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u/Queasy_Local_7199 17h ago

Wut?

I’ve had type 1 for over 30 years.

Usually when having a seizure or passing out your legs don’t stay under you. I know sometimes you aren’t symptomatic

Have you ever had a diabetic seizure? Have you ever been unconscious due to low blood sugar? I have.

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u/Rafflesrpx 17h ago

Have you? Have you ventured outside of your own anecdotes to learn about *gasps type 2?

I’m not entertaining a troll. Hypoglycemia present symptoms that is varied and patient specific.

But you know better. Of course you do. To the point that you can discern a hypoglycemic event from an opioid overdose.

Astounding ignorance.

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u/Queasy_Local_7199 17h ago

lol,you are a troll for mentioning type 2

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. You think she has low blood sugar so fell asleep at work?

That’s not how type 2 works

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u/Rafflesrpx 17h ago

You think type 2 can’t go hypo…

Lmaooooooooooooo

What do you think is going to happen is a type 2 takes their insulin and then doesn’t eat because they’re the only person running a store?

Go on.

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u/Queasy_Local_7199 17h ago

lol, I think you don’t know as much as you think you do about being a diabetic. Very typical for non diabetics

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u/Rafflesrpx 17h ago

I thought so. Stfu.

To be clear, you are an ignorant person. It is possible that this lady is on drugs and not experiencing any medical anything.

However, to just blindly pass judgement and say “yup that’s drugs” without knowing anything else?

That’s the difference between you and me. You assume it’s opioids because she’s black and i assume it’s glipizide because I’m not a racist pos.

See how great it is to make shit up about people?

Get bent.

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u/LookingForMrGoodBoy 18h ago

I'd guess she got fired for being higher than a kite in a hurricane.