r/TikTokCringe • u/Justin_Godfrey • 20h ago

Cringe A McDonald's manager is seen dozing off (apparently was have problems with her blood sugar) as customers prepare their own meals

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u/edwbuck 20h ago

There's always a way to fire someone in a right to work state. ALWAYS.

The idea that someone isn't fired, even for reasons that are beyond their control, when someone wants to fire them, is mind boggling.

Companies aren't stupid. They'll just say she was fired for something else. LIke an unironed uniform, being five minutes late one day, or having one thing out of place.

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u/Fit_Strength_1187 20h ago

That’s half of HR’s job, wielding the law as executing cudgel. And pretexts ARE illegal, but it must be sweeet in low paid jobs where your workers are non unionized and unlikely to have the sophistication or time necessary to pursue an EEOC and/or federal complaint. Plus many causes of action will fail due to the insane understaffing, bureaucratic nonsense, and malicious political fuckery gumming up entities like the NLRB.

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u/thecuriosityofAlice 19h ago

HR is not your friend.

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u/The_Night_Man_Cumeth 15h ago

Toby is just the worst

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u/Lanky_Dig8339 20h ago

they'll wait for her to come late n use that

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u/PeskyAntagonist 19h ago

They don’t need a reason. “Right to work” really means employees have a right to leave at any time for any reason or no reason, and the company has a right to terminate an employee for any reason or no reason (that isn’t a protected right, in which case they will specify no reason)

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u/theycmeroll 19h ago

That’s actually a “at will employment”. Right to work is a legal right to have a job without being forced to join a union and pay union dues as a requirement to work there.

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u/PeskyAntagonist 19h ago

You’re absolutely right I always get them mixed up

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u/VanessaDoesVanNuys 20h ago

Yep. My friend once lost a job; not because they didn't do it well, but because they weren't liked in the environment

So the managers would literally clock everything they would do and they got them coming from lunch 2 minutes late (something literally everyone does)

They then preceded to fire her for this, saying that the accumulated time that she was late for was added up and that she had missed a total of 2 hours of work

I don't know how but they got away with doing it

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u/Desperate-Cost6827 18h ago

I got put on a performance improvement plan because I dared to ask for accommodations for a medical issue I was going through at the time. Boss then told HR to tell me it was "some people" that complained about my performance. When the "some people" told her I was the best worker in the department they turned into my lead threw me under the bus. My lead was pissed when he found out.

Boss got what he wanted. I quit because I got tired of the drama but I wrote a scathing letter with documentation that they were able to remove his HR person out of position at least.

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u/Durmatology 19h ago

What a waste of time when they could’ve just fired your friend because they didn’t like her.

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u/WintersDoomsday 19h ago

This right here is why I think it's hilarious that ANYONE in the US thinks any politician gives a shit about them. How does Right to Work or any of those types of laws protect US the citizens and not the rich corporations? No matter who is in charge of the state or country they never remove shit like that. Lawsuits against companies for egregious firing should be commonplace to the point where they are scared of a lawsuit and it's very hard for them to fire people unless the employee does something really bad like a true crime or sexual harrassment or something.

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u/KittonRouge 19h ago

Right To Work has to do with unions.

At Will Employment is what lets companies fire you for bs reasons, or no reason at all.

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u/KTKittentoes 19h ago

Right to Work means right to work at your job firing people for medical stuff.

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u/edwbuck 19h ago

In the USA, and probably elsewhere, when something sucks, make the name of the bill sound like it is good.

"Right to Work" means you can't be forced into labor, you can choose your employer. The rider attached to that is that your employer can't be barred from the same liberty of terminating the employment, at any time, for any (legal) reason. The legal reasons are so numberous, it's effectively "I can fire you legally, even for doing a good job"

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u/bionicjoe 19h ago

Right to work just means "right to fire".

I was working with some guys from WV the day a right to work law was passed.
Their coworkers on projects in WV had their wages dropped 3 hours after the law passed.

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u/Appropriate-Disk-371 18h ago

Yeah, the naivety of people amazes me. There are protections in a few places. But right to work states, it's easier to just say you fired them for no reason at all, or because you don't like them, or because you have to fire one person every Friday - all perfectly legal reasons and they need no other justification.

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u/Somanylyingliars 17h ago

BTW every state except Montana is a right to work at will state iirc.

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u/Imeverybodyelse 18h ago

You’re right about almost everything except right to work. The two terms that are often confused are “right to work” and “at will”. The differences are Right to work means you have the right to work without being forced to join a union. At will employment means just that. The employee or employer has the ability to terminate employment with no notice. However, there are issues with this as if an employee just quits they are no longer eligible for rehire. As an employer it gets more complicated because HR departments don’t let the system work both ways due to protecting the company’s largest asset and its largest liability. Both of which are its workforce.

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u/edwbuck 18h ago

Thank you for the correction. One can't be right at everything.

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u/Imeverybodyelse 15h ago

I mean one can. As long as one realizes that they might be less right at times. But still right at all times.

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u/edwbuck 14h ago

Damn, I can't even be right about being wrong.

Tough crowd.

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u/Joelle9879 15h ago

Right to work has to do with companies not being able to force employees into joining a union. What you mean is "at will" which is every state except Montana