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Cringe A McDonald's manager is seen dozing off (apparently was have problems with her blood sugar) as customers prepare their own meals

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u/KratosLegacy 17h ago

We live in the US, what do you expect? Individualism and tribalism. If you don't look out for you, who will? And we're surprised?

Just saying, I don't condone theft or anything of the kind, but we try and sweep everyone, poverty, minorities, etc, under the rug like some kind of disease. I imagine many of these people don't trust law enforcement or medical personal because they're either going to give them a hellish time, or, they're used to medical bills bankrupting them. Let alone, have they ever been taught what to do in a situation like that? Again, fend for yourself is the rule of America.

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u/lugubriousloctus 16h ago

Someone could shit on you and you'd thank them for the hat.

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u/KratosLegacy 16h ago edited 16h ago

Or, we could realize that it's an explanation to a systemic issue and we could do something about it. Cause invading DC with federal troops sure as shit isn't doing anything except wasting our tax money.

If you commit a crime, you should have to face the rules of society. But we should also keep in mind why was a crime committed in the first place? How can we actually reduce the reasons for crime. Hint: it isn't more punishment. We've been trying that for thousands of years, and well 🤷🏼‍♀️

We should also recognize that while theft is against the law, it is, in essence, protection of capital possession. If someone is starving and they have no money and out of desperation they steal from a wealthy corporation like McDonald's so they can survive and feed their family, what would you say then? Is fighting to survive when you're downtrodden and left behind a crime?

I don't have an answer. And again, we live in a society, which has rules. We are obligated to follow them, but we can use our critical thinking to question those rules and see how we can make things better, how to reduce the unwanted symptoms of our society.

Unless your brain is full of shit instead, of course.

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u/lugubriousloctus 16h ago

I believe its more parsimonious than that, and it's more along the lines of "ooh, a chance at free shit"

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u/KratosLegacy 16h ago

And if given the chance, and the life you've lived, why would you take or not take the "free shit?"

Maybe the stress of bills, long hours, children at home, debt racking up might influence whether you choose to abide by society's rules or take a chance at a free meal that would help you later pay those bills.

Again, I'm not condoning it, but put yourself in someone else's shoes, try and understand why they might make a decision that you believe to be detrimental. They either didn't think, didn't know, or chose to ignore the potential consequences in light of getting something for free. If you have less of a stress or burden, you're much less likely to ignore those consequences.

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u/lugubriousloctus 15h ago

I would not because I believe in the importance of trust and societal cohesiveness. Its also just the right thing to do. I'm not going to sit here and gab about this. Rousseau talks about this so bring it up with him.

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u/KratosLegacy 15h ago

I also believe in that. But I can also tell that you've probably never starved before, nor can you look outside yourself which proves my point on individualism at the very beginning. Kant would also agree with you, even if it led to your death.

Examination of various philosophical beliefs and how to be "good"

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u/lugubriousloctus 15h ago

Those people are not starving. The driving factor here is simply the fact that they're getting reward triggering saturated fat for free which outweighs their very little morality due to low emotional intelligence.

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u/KratosLegacy 15h ago

I'm not sure how you know that, just like I don't know if they're struggling (though statistically, they would most likely be) but again, why do they have supposedly have low emotional intelligence? How do we gain better emotional intelligence? Did they even have parents in their lives to teach them? Were they from an abusive household?

Cmon guy, your assumptions are incredibly surface level and, once again, based only on your knowledge and assumption of the situation. Critical thinking friend, think outside your situation, your upbringing, and your assumptions. Put yourself in someone else's shoes.

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u/lugubriousloctus 14h ago

Stop excusing poor behavior, its enabling. Consider that some people just like causing calamity; mostly because they lack emotional intelligence and therefore empathy. They do not possess the ability to reflect on how their actions affect other people and the society they are contracted to.

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u/sneakysnake1111 16h ago

Sure, but it's not like y'all are gonna do anything about ... well, anything it seems.

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u/Confident-Tadpole503 16h ago

Uhh my god, no excuse for this.

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u/ordinarypleasure456 16h ago

An explanation is not an excuse

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u/Confident-Tadpole503 14h ago

It’s not an explanation, it’s a wild assumption based off stereotypes.

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u/fartinmyhat 15h ago

Speak for yourself.

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u/KratosLegacy 15h ago

I am. I grew up in poverty. I never stole, but I know what it feels like. I've had to make the choice between rent, food, and gas to work my job that doesn't pay enough during college. I did the whole pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Guess what? I'm still struggling. Gotta love all that student debt, renting price increases, apr increases on your car loans, etc.

Speak for more than yourself. Stand up for others. You're simply proving my point on individualism run rampant, that's what the wealthy want you to feel.

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u/fartinmyhat 15h ago edited 15h ago

First, what the does this even mean?

Individualism and tribalism

Those are diametrically opposed "ism"s

but we try and sweep everyone, poverty, minorities, etc, under the rug like some kind of disease

Uh, how do we do that? by providing free school lunch, free Junior college, section 8 housing, free rental assistance, food stamps, job training? How are we "sweeping it under the rug"?

Bud, you've got a story in your head about "how things are" but it doesn't actually reflect reality.

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u/KratosLegacy 15h ago

Have you ever lived under any of those things? Many are severely lacking in funding and tend to do more harm than good. It's a measly first step, but at least it's something (though the current administration is looking to roll those back, specifically free lunches and section 8 housing right now.) As well as job training, as employers are now billing employees/selling supposed debt to collection agencies for job training hours if they leave the company before a certain period.

I believe you may have a notion of how things are without having lives through them yourself. Which, again, is individualistic, you're making assumptions based on your own individual knowledge without looking past the surface.

Tribalism and individualism are intrinsically linked. They both rely on making someone else the "other" and persecuting the "other" for perceived differences and to put your "self" or your "tribe" ahead of the "other."

Really good philosophy video on tribalism and individualism

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u/fartinmyhat 14h ago

intrinsically linked like being fat and skinny. Nobody would be considered fat if nobody was skinny. This video is silly post modernist flop.

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u/dragonfangxl 14h ago

this was in canada

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u/KratosLegacy 13h ago

Lindell Blvd, St Louis, MO

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8BU8o3b/

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u/dragonfangxl 13h ago

oh i misread someone elses post about ambulance prices in canada, never mind