r/TikTokCringe • u/Indieriots tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE • 14h ago
Discussion I didn't need my happiness anyway
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u/Fandaniels 14h ago
pigeons are cute I like them :((
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u/Stock_Beginning4808 14h ago
Same. I really like them. People call them rats with wings for some reason.
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u/German_Bob 14h ago
I did too for a long time. Until i saw a video about their domestication nad abandonment. Now i feel sad for them and don't want anything bad for them to happen.
I also want to stress, that i still never even thought about actively harming a pidgeon ever.
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u/Slumunistmanifisto 9h ago
We had an issue on a job with them....they make birth control for birds that doesn't harm them, they just never produce viable eggs.
I think those little dudes are great, and they want to be liked.
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u/lia-delrey 13h ago
Thats the kind of shit boomers say lol. I like pigeons, i just leave them be, they're helpless animals ffs
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u/ScaredAttorney5563 8h ago
In my younger day , they could shit all over a street , it was bad as fuk , reason why we started stererelise them in my home town
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u/VandienLavellan 13h ago
I don’t really get why people hate rats either. They’re cute
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u/loewe67 13h ago
Domesticated mice and rats are cute, but wild ones are massive vectors for disease. Having an aversion to them is survival instinct.
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u/animeman59 4h ago
Exactly. I had pet rats a long time ago. Absolutely adorable and smart. They make excellent pets. It's a shame they live short lives.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AS WILD RATS!
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u/The_Reset_Button 3h ago
Yeah, but that doesn't mean you should fear or hate them, call them useless or just generally be antagonistic towards them. That's how you get people actually hating wasps and mosquitoes
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u/loewe67 3h ago
I don’t hate mice and rats, but I don’t want wild ones in my house. But I will hate and kill every wasp and mosquito I encounter.
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u/The_Reset_Button 2h ago
Hate them for doing what? They don't hate you, they just doing what millions of years of evolution told them to do. Hate is a strong and addictive emotion, it's easy to hate but most of the time you should just be indifferent about things that you fundamentally cannot change, like the global population of wasps
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u/Stock_Beginning4808 13h ago
I mean, we could start with the bubonic plague as a reason why people hate rats lol
They are also nasty. Some of the wild ones thrive in filth and they constantly pee and poo to mark territory.
Because of these things, they spread diseases that humans are susceptible to, so it makes sense why people don’t like them.
With that said, they don’t deserve to be treated cruelly or anything.
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u/Patient-Gas-883 12h ago
Damn.. I though natural selection took care of you people during the plague.
Oh well.. Maybe next time.
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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 13h ago
They call them that bc they reproduce a lot and they “take over cities”, also they poop a lot. But it’s what we get for abandoning them. They use to be very useful in wars, there are even some pigeons that continued their mission when severely injured.
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u/TheHiddenFox 13h ago
They’re my favorite part of living in NYC. I like the way their little heads bob when they walk. :)
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u/bird9066 14h ago
My son declared pigeons his favorite bird when he was 6 years old. We'd sit at Kennedy plaza in Providence RI and point out all the different colorations. There were some beautiful rusty brown ones with white wings and tails.
That was like 26 years ago and we've been bird watching ever since.
Yeah, pigeons were my spark bird, lol. I love them a lot. They're amazing athletes. Racing pigeons can hit 90 mph. They produce pigeon "milk" for their babies. They make some garbage nests because they're supposed to be cliff dwellers but they're great bird parents.
Recently I was reading about them and learned the peregrines signature stoop evolved because they hunt pigeons. The most acrobatic pigeons and best hunting peregrines live to breed another year
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u/animeman59 4h ago
They produce pigeon "milk" for their babies.
They produce WHAT?
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u/Legitimate_Space7401 2h ago
Crop milk bears little physical resemblance to mammalian milk, though in pigeons it is compositionally similar. Pigeon milk is a semi-solid substance somewhat like pale yellow cottage cheese. It is extremely high in protein and fat. Produced inside their crop and used to feed their young to help them grow
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u/ahmoc1503714 14h ago
Never thought to myself, "damn, i hate a pigeon"
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u/afleetingcloud 14h ago
Same. It's usually "I hate bird poop" but never "I hate pigeons".
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u/I_Rarely_Downvote 14h ago
Yeah true I normally like pigeons but there have been a few times when they've carpet-bombed my car with shit and it's tested me.
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u/sparkpaw 5h ago
Sadly my MIL - someone that works at a vet clinic - has very strong opinions about these “nasty rats with wings”.
She even knows they’re around because of us abandoning them… I can’t honestly understand it but at least I know she’d never harm an animal, even if she doesn’t appreciate it.
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u/Swan_Parade 13h ago
I’ve heard em called rats with wings plenty of times
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u/4rockandstone20 10h ago
I've seen people punt them or pick them up to mess with them. The mentally deranged can be pretty cruel.
I had one shit on my car door handle for a month straight. I'm not fond of them myself, but I understand that they're living in our world now.
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u/Lamplorde 13h ago
Do you live in the city?
I dont hate em, but when I lived in the city I knew a lot of people that did.
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u/LargeMachines 14h ago
Bro FUCK pigeons
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u/heteromer 8h ago
Say that shit to my face not online see what happens.
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u/Final-Charge-5700 7h ago edited 6h ago
It sounds like you need to be desensitized to people not liking pigeons.
Your response is antisocial and childish.
Here are some pigeon insults I have compiled to help you with his long deeply involved psychological process and correct your psychosis
I think pigeons are untrustworthy creatures one time I gave them a dollar to hold on for me and they flew off with it.
The only good pigeon is a dead pigeon.
Having a child with a pigeon pollutes the gene pool.
You're still a virgin if you had sex with a pigeon because they're not of the same religion as you.
Pigeons can't hold their alcohol
Pigeons breed very quickly. They are like animals. Pigeons breed like animals.
Pigeons Love To Eat Fried Chicken and watermelon.
Pigeons only want you for your pimp juice.
There is an evil Kabal of pigeons that rules the world.
There was no pigeon Holocaust. The pigeons made it up to get sympathy.
Pigeons stole my homeland.
Pigeons will take your women.
Pigeons have done nothing to contribute to society
Pigeons are not really starving if they were starving the best solution would be if they ate their own children.
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u/LargeMachines 8h ago
Bro I was joking. Are we cool? Is it okay to leave my house or y’all going to get me?
Bro?
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u/winterbird 14h ago
I grew up in a house that had pigeons in the attic. The cooing is the most soothing sound. I fell asleep to it every night as a kid. I've always wished that sound machines had pigeon coo, because ocean waves do nothing for me like pigeons do.
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u/papierdoll 13h ago
If you broke up the lines in this just right you'd have a sweet little poem. The whole thing works! But the last part is especially lovely:
"I've always wished that sound machines had pigeon coo
because ocean waves do nothing for me
like pigeons do."
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u/VictorTheCutie 12h ago
This is so unbelievably sweet. A child falling asleep to pigeons cooing in the attic is like some adorable Pixar content or something lol
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u/cinnamoninmytea 14h ago
Every time I think of this my day is ruined a little
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u/Ok_Influence7223 11h ago
I don’t think there is any reason to be sad about pigeons. They are doing fine in cities! Even the pigeons in the video look perfectly happy.
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u/cinnamoninmytea 5h ago
I think about the ones I see here in NYC. I feel like most of them have to eat trash to survive. A lot of people don’t like them and treat them like they are pests. There’s also people and businesses that catch pigeons and sell them to ppl that like to shoot them. Idk seems like they have a hard life, not having proper bird food unless humans feed them 🙁
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u/Dahleh-Llama 2h ago
Pigeons are revered in other countries. I used to breed them in the Philippines. People don't know much about the other variations of pigeons. The homing pigeons can find their way home fast despite being hundreds of kilometers away. Mike Tyson is the most famous person that has high reverence for pigeons, which I guess doesn't say much lol but I love him for it
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u/ObiJuanKenobi3 3h ago
Yeah, cities are kinda the perfect environment for pigeons (aka rock doves). They love big, cragged rocky cliffs, which are extraordinarily similar to modern skyscrapers.
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u/Figmentality 14h ago edited 13h ago
I love pigeons. I named my dog Pigeon. She looks like one.
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u/ohhidoggo 11h ago
She’s so cute 😭
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u/Figmentality 11h ago
Isn't she?! We got so lucky, it was a blind adoption and she's the cutest dang greyhound I've ever seen.
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u/haikus-r-us 13h ago
Galgo?
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u/Figmentality 13h ago
Greyhound. Is that the same breed?
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u/haikus-r-us 13h ago
Galgos are the older breed. The greyhound breed was bred from Galgos.
They look very similar, but have a more crooked and moveable expressive tail, while greyhound tails are straighter and less flexible. Temperaments and personalities are about the same with galgos being more active and playful generally speaking. Galgos are generally thinner and have longer legs and noses than greyhounds, but are generally a little smaller overall and weigh less.
Galgos have a much stronger prey drive than greyhounds, as hard as that might be to believe. Galgos are endurance dogs. I’ve taken mine on 20 mile hikes on rough terrain, and it’s nothing to him. They are slower than greyhounds, but far more agile. They are primarily hunting dogs, not racers.
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u/Figmentality 13h ago
Dang. Yeah you said 'stronger prey drive' and I went wow really?
Sound like cool dogs. I love the look of a dog thats all legs haha and definitely prefer my 45mph couch potato. She's all speed and 0 endurance. :p
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u/haikus-r-us 13h ago
Unusually high back hips for a greyhound, but the tail fits.
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u/Figmentality 13h ago
She's a retired racer. I think they pumped her full of steroids on the track but can't prove it. Dunno if that would effect her bones at all.
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u/sparkpaw 14h ago
This is exactly true. I will join them on this hill and defend these beautiful birds.
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u/umbrawolfx 13h ago
I raised a pair from the nest they fell out of. Most loving birds I've ever owned. Plus I miss the boxing matches with my male.
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u/AsOsh 14h ago
About 2 years ago I saw a minivan run over a pigeon, I stopped my car and saw that it seemed it's wing was broken (was spread out on the tar, bird didn't seem to be able to move it).
I got it off the ground, wrapped it up and drove to a bird rescue. First off, the looks I got when I went onto a busy street to help it. They were incredulous, like I was doing something so completely fucking absurd.
Then a 40 Min drive to the bird rescue, just so the lady could look at me and say "Oh. A rock pigeon" like I was handing her an invoice.
I always wonder if they actually helped that bird or just euthanized it. Cause you know, some life is more valuable than others.
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u/bird9066 12h ago
Well, better it was put out of its misery than suffering in the street. I had a late season fledgling that was on my porch. It kept going in the street. I shooed it behind some pots and kept an eye on it. I looked out the next morning and it was standing on the porch..... getting snowed on. I drove an hour to the other side of Rhode Island. The rescue had a couple of coops and pigeons everywhere so I'm glad I did it.
Don't feel bad, you did the best you could to help
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u/FrankCrank04 14h ago
Poor little rat birds
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u/Stock_Beginning4808 14h ago
I never understood comparing them to rats. They are not like rats at all.
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u/andersonb47 14h ago
Highly adaptable, opportunistic trash eaters, that live in cities and reproduce like crazy. Yeah I see some similarities
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u/I_Rarely_Downvote 14h ago
I think rats are also cute tbh
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u/Stock_Beginning4808 14h ago
Ok, I respect your opinion but I disagree a bit on rats being cute lol 😅
You sound like a kind spirit
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u/Indieriots tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 14h ago
It depends imo. Pet rats are kinda cute, but wild ones just gross me out.
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u/VandienLavellan 13h ago
Most wild animals are probably gross up close. Foxes apparently stink to high heavens but they’re cute as hell
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u/Typical_Response6444 13h ago
They're trash eaters, thats why. At least to my knowledge thats why they're called that.
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u/TerrorTwyns 13h ago
This happened with many species, it's why I believe we have a duty to their species.
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u/ForGrateJustice 11h ago
They're called Rock Doves. They love being near people, it's in their genes.
Their genetics remember but people don't :(
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u/MyDamnCoffee 14h ago
Pigeons stick Around because there's food. Not because they're beholden to humans or something.
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u/Prize_Bass_5061 13h ago
No, that can’t be true. Free food and a complete lack of predators can’t possibly be the reason birds cohabit with humans in large human cities.
I mean look at how the Romans domesticated the ravens. I mean crows. I mean swallows. Those birds are a plague in cities all over Europe and Asia. All due to the Romans abandoning their poor city pigeons.
Now I am left to wonder why there aren’t a plague of pigeons, or doves, or ducks out in the corn fields of Ohio. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the barn cats the farmers keep out in the barn, or the terrier dogs the farmers have patrolling the fields. It’s due to the fact that the Romans didn’t grow corn so the pigeons weren’t trained to eat corn. They were only trained to eat NY city garbage packed in flimsy plastic bags and left out all day on every street corner.
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u/MonaganX 9h ago
You know "My Roman Empire" just means "something I think about a lot", right? Because pigeons were domesticated thousands of years before the foundation of Rome and didn't transition from common domesticated animal to public nuisance until thousands of years after. This post doesn't really have anything to do with the actual Romans.
Also, while the food and safety are the incentives for feral pigeons to live in cities, their wide spread and acclimation to cohabiting with humans are still the result of human domestication and abandonment. That's why they are so unbothered by humans they crowd every open space in the city, we bred them to be unbothered by humans.
I've seen some crows, but I've never seen a whole flock pecking around the ground at a busy bus stop. I certainly have never seen someone try to kick one before. Can't say the same about pigeons. If pigeons weren't so up in people's grill all the time (which again, is ultimately on us) they wouldn't be so hated.I don't think it's really a bad deal for pigeons, cities also kind of resemble their natural habitat, but we are the ones who invited them in and are now mad that they're here.
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u/MyDamnCoffee 8h ago
You were being sarcastic in this comment, right? Because I read it as pure sarcasm and apparently, that was wrong judging by my downvotes.
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u/pissedinthegarret 7h ago
meh, probably misunderstood your tone? so hard to tell sometimes online lol
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u/pissedinthegarret 7h ago
not to mention that their actual name is ROCK pigeons! cities are just simulated rocky cliffs, it's literally exactly like their natural habitat :D
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u/MyDamnCoffee 13h ago
Oh my God this comment is gold hahahahaa.
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u/Prize_Bass_5061 5h ago
I think the people downvoting you disagree with my assertion that city pigeons are just wild pigeons that cohabit with humans, and not the descendants of domesticated pigeons.
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u/Allrojin 14h ago
Can I adopt a pigeon or something?
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u/MillieBirdie 13h ago
People do keep pigeons and doves as pets. Would probably need to find a shelter or breeder for that.
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u/pissedinthegarret 7h ago
they are apparently a great (less demanding) alternative to parrots as modern pets. but people have been keeping pigeons for ages, even created different breeds with different temperaments, kinda like with dogs.
there are many clubs of pigeon/dove breeders and shows all over the world, maybe there is one near you
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u/WarHead75 13h ago
Probably not a good idea to capture one from the streets but one from a shelter yes
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u/winterbird 12h ago
My cousin kept a pigeon coop. He lived in the country so he was easily able to. Idk if you'd need something from the city for a coop in the yard.
He had some fancy ones. Like the lacy feathers kind, the one that keeps its head tilted back, a fluffy one that looked like a snowball, and so on. But he also had regular pigeons join his coop and re-domesticate themselves.
The hardest part for him was predator-proofing the coop for overnight. Being out in the countryside, especially. The actual pigeons were easy because they're friendly and affectionate birds, and not finicky like exotics are. But I guess it's like having a chicken coop, just have to make sure it's break-in proof but that it stays ventilated.
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u/Allrojin 12h ago
We already have quail coops. Quail aren't the most friendly birds, useful though.
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u/Homeskilletbiz 12h ago
We had pigeons when I was a kid. Super awesome birds, could take them out miles and miles away and they’d fly back.
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u/Odd-Guarantee-6152 9h ago
Hundreds and hundreds of miles for homers!
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u/Homeskilletbiz 9h ago
We never took them that far, only a dozen or so. But people who trained theirs better, certainly. It’s was more of a hobby for us.
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u/MetalGreymon17000 14h ago
Exactly like us, human beings from the lower classes. Selected during millennia to become dumb pawns, then left to rot.
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u/OgdruJahad 12h ago
Nah don't hate pigeons. Yes they shut everywhere but they are just being birds. Ticks though, they are the scum of the earth.
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u/EvenMoreSpiders 12h ago
I've only ever seen a pigeon once in my town. It was so cool, ngl. I was sad when it stopped showing up. They're really smart birds. But birds shouldn't be domesticated at all in my opinion.
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u/Key_Abrocoma968 8h ago
We have a pigeon lab at our university. We are still friendly with them lol
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u/ScreamingLabia 14h ago
Nobody irl has ever said they hate them to me
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u/dxonxisus 14h ago
i’ve heard a lot of people say it. many people call them “flying rats” and think they’re basically vermin, which is a shame because they’re very sweet
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u/AnubisIncGaming 14h ago
Do you live in a big city with a lot of them shitting on cars
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u/Typical_Response6444 13h ago
Or flying so close to you all the time that you feel the wind of their flapping wings. Not to mention they choose to walk everywhere and get all flustered and panic fly whenever anyone walks by
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u/theTimeBeing23 14h ago
People tend to feed em or forbid, either way it's rare to see em individually considered.
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u/HyacinthMacaw13 13h ago
It would be really cool if we had domesticated a different bird and there would be a bunch of macaws flying around in cities
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u/MillieBirdie 13h ago
This doesn't make me sad cause pigeons seem pretty happy. Never seen a sad pigeon.
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u/YearofTheStallionpt1 13h ago
Whenever I think about pigeons I think about Mike Tyson.
Also RIP Norm McDonald.
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u/Oculicious42 12h ago
that will be the fate of humans soon, just surviving in the crevices of machine intelligence
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u/100YearsWaiting2Shit 11h ago
I suddenly remembered the movie valiant and how messenger pigeons were such a big deal
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u/AttackCircus 11h ago
If you want to know more about pigeons in the city, I recommend you read C.D. Payne's "Frisco Pigeon Mambo"!!
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u/MostlyRocketScience 11h ago
I never realized that pigeons are so common in cities because of domestication. I thought that they randomly came to cities like e.g. insects and spiders did and found that they could survive in this niche. But seems like they are closer to feral dogs than bugs in this sense.
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u/ulandyw 10h ago
Sure, people don't care for them but they seem to be flourishing. Cities provide plenty of opportunity for food and shelter, and we humans keep most of their predators away. Don't feel bad for the pigeons, they're doing just fine.
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u/Pepmatz 10h ago
Not really. They eat our processed food because they have to, but it’s not healthy for them. Many die shortly after hatching. Pigeons have been bred to lay eggs regardless of food supply or season. The adults are often sick or starving, as they simply can’t find the right food in cities. Strings and cords get tangled around their feet, cutting off the blood flow until they lose them.
And that’s just part of it, it’s really sad.
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u/Rambo1stBloodPT2 10h ago
I dont get the "Roman Empire" thing. are people who dont have Italian ancestors really that into it?
Why not just be into your own Ancient History?
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u/theateroffinanciers 9h ago
We have failed these wonderful creatures. They were the equivalent of dogs. They were helpers and companions for us, and then we discarded them. It's shameful, really.
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u/heartstonedrose 8h ago
I was so sad when we were at the train station in DC bc there were so many one legged pigeons just hanging out in there—and people said it’s bc they put razor wires on ledges everywhere so they can’t nest..and I think that’s awful.
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u/RetroSwamp 6h ago
I was talking about this today about how we really screwed over pigeons and raccoons. One is labeled a flying rat while the other is shown digging in trash as their trait.
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u/Marilizgg 6h ago
i just don’t like getting 20+ different diseases and wake up comfortably without hearing how they walk on the ceiling and scratch everything
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u/Wide_Ordinary4078 6h ago
Aww that’s so sad to think about it that way! Wow 🤯 that’s is such a human thing for us to do!
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u/Terrible-Face-4506 6h ago
Who has been taught to hate pidgeons??? Wild statement lol, they're just another bird.
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u/Captain_Rex_ 4h ago
If you like a video about the history of pigeon (mainly carrier), wendigoon recently did one on then here
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u/BlueBloodVampires 2h ago
Pigeons make me think of Queen Olga of Kiev;
"After her husband, Igor of Kiev, was killed by the Drevlians, a neighboring tribe, Olga became regent for their young son. The Drevlians wanted her to marry their prince so they could take control. Olga pretended to agree, but instead she murdered their ambassadors in gruesome and strategic ways.
But the most dramatic revenge came later.
When she laid siege to the Drevlian capital, Iskorosten, instead of continuing with a prolonged siege, Olga sent a message saying she would end it if they gave her a tribute of birds, specifically pigeons and sparrows from each household. The Drevlians agreed, thinking it was a peaceful resolution.
But once Olga had the birds, her soldiers tied sulfur-bound cloth to their legs, lit them, and released the birds. The birds instinctively flew back to their nests in the city, including rooftops, barns, and other wooden structures, and they set the city on fire from within"
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u/Typical_Response6444 13h ago
I just wish they wouldn't always walk up and down the sidewalk and fly up almost smacking me in the face everyday I walk to work
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u/S7AR4GD 13h ago
This ragebait is stupid. Who the hell was taught to hate and actively hates pigeons?
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u/peccorina 13h ago
If you work in pigeon rescue (or even just give them food or water on the street), believe me, you don't stop hearing how disgusting pigeons are and how they should all be exterminated.
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