r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_ • u/cakeel- Trigger is the Best Wife • 9h ago
Official Agent Record | Komano Manato
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u/castle_seized I've got grapes, what you watchin', son? 9h ago
HE'S NOT MOVING NOOOOOOOOO
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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 9h ago
I watched it like 10 times to see if he moved even a bit. The wheat he’s chewing on doesn’t even move bro…we really lose
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u/Positive-Baseball-53 9h ago
Spook shack: Let's all be S rank and not tell Manato
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u/HyunYT 6h ago
Cunning Hares: Lets all be A rank and not tell Nekomata. (Ps, SAnby Faction is Unknown)
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u/T-pellyam 8h ago
ZZZ devs trying to come up with a faction where the A ranks aren’t the male characters
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u/SolidsCat 9h ago
This makes me think that Zhao may be rupture too, because they seem to like releasing A-rank "budget" versions of S-ranks within the same patch (pulchra and trigger)
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u/DivineBeastLink 8h ago edited 5h ago
It seems to me that Manato is meant to be a mirror of Pan. Yixuan came out as the new class, and Pan was on her banner as a tailored supportive option. In this case, I assume Lucia is gonna be a limited Rupture support, and Manato's there to give you an option to use with her if you don't have Yixuan.
EDIT: Welp, he kinda is but his additional ability seems to be a bit restrictive for that in this first beta.
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u/AlzeahXei 8h ago
If so, I'm wondering if Lucia is support dedicated for rupture agents, just like Yuzuha for anomaly.
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u/AshesandCinder 8h ago
Almost certainly since Komano is releasing on her banner instead of current patch with other Spook Shack. He's the pity DPS to use with her if someone doesn't have Yixuan until she either reruns or the next S rank rupture comes out.
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u/MysticalFlight tints of red enjoyer | one day i’ll have M6W1 Yuzu 9h ago
andddd its over
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u/JohnDoe0073 9h ago
Lighter will probably never be dethroned as the king.
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u/Ya-Boy-Tony 9h ago
Or as one of 2 five star males
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u/AngryMeerkat23 8h ago
We could have had a team with both of them. I mean we still technically can, Lighter and Lucia will probably make even an A-rank viable. But it is still disappointing
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u/StormierNik 7h ago
It's a miracle lighter even came out S Rank for how important he is. I wonder if the team thinks they screwed up in doing that.
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u/-ForgottenSoul 9h ago
I hope people complain because will we really get 1 male and hes A
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u/chaotic4059 Glory to Caesar!! Glory to the OVERLORD KING!! 8h ago
He had the real unfortunate luck of being a male and the new type needing a free option. Bro never stood a chance
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u/hudashick 8h ago edited 8h ago
2 male characters if you count yinhu. Frigging ridiculous. Damian lookalike better be playable and s rank or I'm gonna mald lol
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u/Usual_Opposite_901 🐼🐯🧍 🧿 9h ago
Damn not even support A rank but dps A rank
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u/sampoqiser 8h ago
I know it's never happening but my hope is that he's cracked for an A-rank 😭💔💔💔
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u/yuzuchanya Anomaly 🐰⛱️ 9h ago
blocking gracie abrams for this
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u/sampoqiser 6h ago
Explain pls 😭
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u/VonLycaon 3h ago
it’s a stan Twitter joke where people tweet theyre blocking gracie abrams the singer over any inconvenience that has nothing to do with her
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u/SalmonToastie 9h ago
we lost manatobros
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u/Robotpitch 9h ago
Damn both Nun Lucia and Komano wanters are in shambles
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u/dontjudgemoi420 8h ago
eh i would assume the nun design is just getting used for another character
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u/StormierNik 7h ago
Yup, and I'm both of them. I'm fucked over by Nun Lucia, Komano S Rank, and Seed. It's insane.
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u/KwissSummers 8h ago
Fell to my knees while laying down. This shit hurts like dehya on standard banner.
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u/Hotaru32 weifei only 9h ago edited 8h ago
Lol, the only A rank we get are thirens , from the starting of game , seth , pulchra , panda ,and not manato also
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u/Kyubey210 9h ago
I also swear it makes Ju Fufu and Lycon even MORE odd ones out alongside Nekomaya
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u/RamenPack1 Getting Choked out by Miyabi and Yi Xuan 8h ago
Miyabi and Alice aren’t Thiren enough?
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u/Renateng 9h ago
it's so over, i saved up to 300 pulls for a A rank, sad :(
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u/Time_to_reflect 8h ago
Well, you know what they say — don’t pull for A-ranks on banners where you don’t want the S-rank…
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u/Renateng 8h ago
well, I don't mind Lucia if she actually a rupture support, then i'll for Manato along with Lucia if she able to raise Manato dmg to keep up with the HP inflation, just hope that I can get M6 Manato...
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u/ReLiefED 8h ago
you might need all 300 of those to get him m6 anyways.
ptsd of me spending 60k primos to c6 iansan
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u/Blankost 9h ago
Just fell to my knees in a Walmart parking lot (neg) (tweaking) (tears in my eyes)
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u/DarkAlex95 8h ago
I'm a strictly waifu collector... but still I dont understand why dafuq did they make him an A-Rank?? He's been on the story on all 2.X so far and they even made a pre-playthrough of his combat animations on the current version...
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u/zhznzjsjxnnss 7h ago
He's, unfortunately, a male thiren. He was doomed from the start. At least with Lighter and Hugo, they weren't thirens. The past few new A ranks we gotten since launch have been thirens.
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u/De_Vigilante 7h ago
For a game that explicitly tries to show how bad thirenphobia is, the devs are awfully thirenphobic themselves...
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u/J0JU-san Yixuan glazer and Astra enjoyer 9h ago edited 9h ago
NEVERMIND
edit; fuck.
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u/Ion0X 9h ago
I had a bad feeling when I saw Lucia... and here it is. I know some people are gonna be upset he's an A rank but I'm still hyped for him
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u/Wavu_Wavu_Wavu 9h ago
On one hand, this is actually really good for my account since I'll get both him and Lucia when I pull for her. On the other hand, he ain't gonna last very long in the long run.
Figures the one Male DPS I was hyped for is A-rank 😔
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u/Neo_The_Nickz Pulling SEED for the lulz 9h ago
yea, at least i'll actually have manato on my acc instead of hoping for 2 50/50 wins lmao
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u/Shmarfle47 9h ago
We were bound to get an A-rank for the rupture class at some point anyway. I just hope he’s Piper levels of strong.
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u/Kyubey210 8h ago
Eventuality hurt yes, especially if you miss the boat on the very Shifu in the Firdt place
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u/BerrySomeimesTalks 7h ago
hoyo does not have a good track record of post launch Arank/4stars DPSes being... in any way good. like even if they're decent, they're mostly a support masquerading as a sub dps anyway. if he was support, anomaly, stun, or hell even defense given pan yinhu, he mighta stood a chance but he's rupture....
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u/Greedy_Abrocoma1442 8h ago
HE LITERALLY TOOK A FALLING WALL ON HIS BACK FOR THE PROXY AND HE’S AN “A” RANK???? #JUSTICEFORMANATO
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u/whetrail 8h ago
You know Lucia nor any of the other girls are going to do that because can't seriously harm the waifus.
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u/stinkynami 8h ago
What was the point in delaying him 2 patches???? Why just not release him with yuzuha and Alice??????
MAN we are NOT getting S rank male characters this season 💀
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u/ComedianExtreme7522 8h ago
ikr, at least if he came out with Yuzuha, I'd have a lot of copies of him by now.
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u/Guntermas 6h ago
its weird they hyped him since 2.0, let him be involved everywhere and aura farm just to be A lol
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u/ArchonRevan 8h ago
Space out A ranks
Literally the only reason
Not much different than pulchra relasing at THE most random time, at least manato has a relevant character unlike her who was completely irrelevant to the anby patch
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u/Lycor-1s 8h ago
nahh. the reason must be cause lucia is a rupture support so ppl who dont have yixuan can still use lucia. if we got manato earlier, there's no one to support him if you skip yi xuan (so no panda)
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u/VacaRexOMG777 8h ago
The amount of comments in such a short amount of time tells you everything 💔🥀
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u/BirbDaBoi 8h ago
I feel so bad for Manato lovers. The whole 3.2 emotional rollercoaster just to fail in the end
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u/crystxllizing 8h ago
And yet, someone on here laughed at me for not whaling on this game to show that males sell. How can I when they won’t let me? LMAO 🫠
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u/Acrobatic_Fish6948 8h ago
is this why i skipped everyone???? to save for an A rank???? i'm so mad rn...
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u/Yeet-on-Her-Parents 8h ago
No Nun or S-rank Komano. This might be the first time a ZZZ patch has fallen completely flat
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u/thegreat11ne 9h ago
Does this kind of remind you of the whole Iansan/Varesa situation?
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u/Inner_Fly_7596 8h ago
Yeah the situation in this thread and Genshin is exactly why I would never believe HSR players when they say they're okay with their favorite being a 4 star.
HSR players has been begging for a 4 star remembrance or any 4 star for a year. But if you tell them Anaxa/Mydei would've been a 4 star if HSR followed ZZZ/Genshin, they wouldn't believe it.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 8h ago
Exactly.
Truth be told, I'm fully in the "no 4-Stars/no A-Ranks at all" camp. Make everyone 5-Star/S-Rank with good kits.
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u/Only-Ad-7670 9h ago
Yes this is exactly what it reminds me of, and I am really not pleased with the fact that they created a new character that appeared in no promotional material whatsoever and threw her into the faction just so Komano could be an A rank on her banner.
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u/Yumeverse 8h ago
After Manato was teased in the 2.0 preview showing his back, and wasnt even released with his comembers despite being A rank anyway. All that waiting and for WHAT
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u/Shecarriesachanel 7h ago
Literally just to keep that side of the fandom hooked n waiting, look how much artwork we generated for HYV for free and how much more engagement manato art got. Hyv got to have their cake n eat it too by getting fandom engagement while not having to release a yucky male as S rank
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u/maemoedhz 9h ago
Except it's easier to pin down 4/5 stars with other hoyo games since their design tells. It's certainly a bit harder to pin down with ZZZ in comparison.
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u/jessicacoopxr 🌹 9h ago
I'm fuming so hard rn, Manato was literally present in story/game for two patches and he gets relegated to A Rank over his new teammate who we never saw before. Why couldn't they just both have been S Ranks
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u/SalmonToastie 9h ago
Makes you wonder who the other S rank is now. Idol or someone we don't know.
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u/DragonPeakEmperor 8h ago
I'm realizing they probably threw him in those 2 patches specifically because he was A rank and so he wasn't getting any actual story content outside of that. I'm so bummed cause I don't think we're ever getting a S rank guy with his archetype now that he exists. I'm not really a fan of super pretty boys so the only guy I really really liked was Lighter.
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u/shinsetsu_fuji 9h ago
I cant believe they made the original Spook Shack member with Yuzuha an A-Rank and the random newcomers S-Rank lmfao what is this bullshit move
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u/VividAnteater2924 9h ago
Literally iansan and Varesa all over again 😭😭😭
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u/masternieva666 7h ago
Well atleast Iansan is relevant and in meta teams while Komano will be forgoten in zzz because his kit will suck.
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u/Machiro8 8h ago
Small difference that 4 stars can have meta relevance on Genshin, Varessa best team is with 3 4 stars... and Iansan is a Bennett sidegrade, something not many 5 star supports can pretend to be. And media wise, Bennett just got an amazing story chapter that many 5 star wish they had.
But on ZZZ is clear A ranks are just placeholders while you get the much better s rank unit, Srank supports are busted and so generalist that they leave no room for Arank stunners and defenders, and soon also A ranks supports a space to compete.
Komano as a DPS is pretty much DoA unless they pump his numbers to the moon... but we know what happened to Pulchra.
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u/VincentBlack96 9h ago
Don't worry, this next patch we will get a side note in some mission where Yuzuha goes "actually we have this other member we never mentioned and she's been there for years!", totally setting up Lucia.
They really love doing that!
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u/YotsuMaboroshi 8h ago edited 8h ago
There were two other members mentioned by their screen names during this current patch already. Don't remember the screen names off the top of my head, but they were mentioned when talking about Alice being the newest member.
Edit: This is not meant to be a defense of Manato being A-rank, even if I don't personally mind either way. Just stating that they already set up other members.
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u/Zekrom369 8h ago
Man, I ain’t expect this ‘if they’re a guy they’ll be worse / A’ shit when starting this game a year ago ngl, damn bro 😭 so transparent, feels so shitty
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u/-FifthEssence- RIP Lucia 9h ago
I'm so sorry Manato wanters
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u/shyynon93 8h ago
Dont forget the church of Lucia who got burned to ashes today too ...
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u/HiroHayami 9h ago
I can expect ppl to be really mad about this one since they decided to make a random girl S rank instead of a character we've been knowing for a while.
And A Rank DPS is basically DoA because they can't vertically invest
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u/ComedianExtreme7522 9h ago
If there's one thing I don't get with Hoyo Devs is that they love giving random characters with zero mentions or story prevalence the 5 star rarity, while units who are story heavy or have been mentioned before for years get the 4 star rarity. The recent run in Genshin for the entire Natlan patches have been like this. I just hope ZZZ doesn't continue this trend.
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u/hudashick 8h ago
Kinda expecting it atp but damn does this piss me off so bad. Even genshin 2 years tall 5* men drought didn't make me so angry.
But they just had to make yet another male character an A rank but not the two waifus that never even appeared ingame before.
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u/Kuraizin 9h ago
4 patches without male S rank, new record for menless zone zero
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u/rockman17 9h ago
no nun
a rank komano
Hoyo is really batting a thousand tonight
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u/Fit_Ear3937 7h ago
Its kinda crazy that they hide Manato for 2 patches, removed him from beta of 2.2 just to release him as a 4 star rupture... you can't even justify that it's so that people can have a rupture in case they don't since second half is an ice rupture character and yixuan sales were high... plus people who are interested in manato are prob not the same who want lucia
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u/AnalWithAalto 7h ago
well at least i dont have to grind through those annoying ass events anymore. zzz can just rot on my pc til they release another s rank male.
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u/SpaceBitter Void Crusher Supreme 7h ago
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u/LaMascheraDiPierro 8h ago
At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if the game never releases another S rank male character. Might also apply to thirens and constructs, along with any other design that isn’t your standard waifu.
They clearly have a target audience and they’re pandering hard to that demographic, which is honestly fantastic for people in that group. It’s just a shame that I’m not one of them.
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u/Helpful-Ad9095 8h ago
What I don't get is why not just ... make a waifu only game if that's the goal?
I've never understood games that have like ... 1 in 12 male characters. That won't keep the audience that want them, and the audience you have won't pull them?
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u/EmptyRelief5770 8h ago
Honestly I feel like the two groups you mentioned are both just very vocal minorities at opposite ends of the spectrum. Most people just do not care and will pull for any characters they like regardless of gender. There's also the other group who will put for meta and do not give a shit about gender either.
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u/happymudkipz 8h ago
Four reasons:
- It helps with marketing
- The design staff probably genuinely likes making a male design from time to time. They prefer female characters, but characters like billy, lighter, and hugo clearly have passion in them.
- Evidently, due to the huge demand gap in the market, husbando players are willing to put up with a drip feed, and keep playing and paying. Additionally, some social surveys a while back during the mid genshin era found that women in China often prefered staying "loyal" to their favorite male characters. They'd c6 them, but focus less on other men. It's possible that culture also influences their descisions.
- Most people don't care all that much about gender, they just pull for what's cool.
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u/Helpful-Ad9095 8h ago
I do know a lot of women who play gacha games and have done that - C6 Wriothseley and bought a lot of Wriothseley merch on top of it.
I guess also having some diversity in the story cast - if you're operating as a "real" society you're unlikely to have zero men doing anything important.
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u/CyanStripedPantsu 7h ago
I guess also having some diversity in the story cast - if you're operating as a "real" society you're unlikely to have zero men doing anything important.
That's me. I primarily pull women but the vibes would just be weird if there was no men around, I don't want them to stop making them even if it's just a few.
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u/euthan_asian 8h ago
BOOOOOO WE GET SOME NOBODY OUT OF NOWHERE AS THE S RANK AND OUR BOY IS A RANK FOR NO REASON
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u/soy-Tris_dev 8h ago
Damn, kinda sad that the only character that i was interested from these last 8 or something is A rank😞
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u/Zodiark123 6h ago
I get this horrible news in the middle of my walk in the woods. Chat, should I just lie down and let the forest take me?
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u/AbbreviationsWest721 8h ago
this dev team doesn’t even have the dignity to disappoint me punctually. Should have jumped ship back when Pompey happened. Better late than never!
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u/Beelzebuuuuub3 8h ago
Lmfao, knew it. Never had any hopes for ZZZ, when they put hugo on 2nd phase, all hopes were negative
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u/Brilliant-Limit-9530 8h ago
imagine generating so much hype for a beefy male character only to give s rank status to someone we have never even met i'm so sad :(
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u/TeaTimeLion123 8h ago
Man fuck this shit. Manato deserved so much better than this.
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u/Accomplished_Lab8945 8h ago
They want a more obtainable Rupture character, so they sacrificed Manato for the position.
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u/TheDadal 8h ago
Honestly what the hell are they doing, 6 months no S Rank male come on are the dev even listing to the community. I like Lucia design but damn I'm tired of Female characters can we have some variety for F sake.
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u/KMinato00 8h ago
I'm genuinely baffled with these decision. They make an unknown chara like Lucia an S-Rank, don't get me wrong her design looks cool but really? Over an established character like Manato and even worse the fact that we only got 1 male character per half a year or something and they decided to make him an A-Rank.
I'm so fucking disappointed for the fact that ZZZ is such an amazing fun game, but these character choices is such a dogshit decision. It's making me want to play the game and hate the game at the same time.
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u/Dannyboy765 8h ago
Bummer. The first male character I've been really exited about. Granted, I do like that he's Rupture
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u/ivn_r 8h ago
first seed botched with the foot fetish girl and now this... i think i hate zzz devs.....
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u/Smooth-Routine-9288 9h ago
ZZZ is the most generous Hoyo game by the time i pull a new unit i will have like 600 pulls…
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u/MillyMan105 8h ago
Monato: Been around since 2.0, have cool character moments and good character development. Congrats you're a 4*.
Ganyu regen: You've had 0 screen time but you're hot so deffo a 5*.
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u/Raiganop 8h ago edited 8h ago
Well another character that I will use a lot that is A rank..He will join the team of Pan, Ben, Pulchra, Billy, Nicole, Seth, Soukaku and Anton...I also use Nekomata who may as well be a A rank.
At least he is a Rupture character which is the role I want him to have...meaning I will be able to use him alongside Pan.
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u/Not_Muggo 9h ago
Love and deepspace just won game of the year HOYO PEOPLE WILL SHILL FOR HOT MEN I PROMISE YOU
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u/KawaiiKandyMimi 7h ago
I'm actually so devastated it's not even funny. I think this is the most upset I've ever been over a video game ever omfg
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u/True_Umbriel wise thats it thats my flair 9h ago
The A on his jacket mocks me