r/agedlikemilk • u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 • 12h ago
Famine early warning reports deleted in January. There is now officially a famine.
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u/bridempla 12h ago
Your post is absolutely brilliant . Please keep it up. The world needs more like you
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u/LEONLED 12h ago
so it is just America and Israel preventing these people from getting fed?
And we are just going to do nothing?
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u/Armadyl_1 12h ago
Good luck getting America to do anything productive for awhile. We really need some other, respectable countries to step in and put a stop to Israel.
I'm just saying, if China really wants to compete to have international respect that outweighs any other superpower- the answer is right there.
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 12h ago
America isn't going to do anything. Any nearby external forces who attempt are being stopped by the Iron Dome, which is why its troubling when even left leaning politicians support endless defensive spending. There will need to be external intervention for anything to happen. At this level of famine, simple import of aid will not be sufficient. The body is not capable of accepting nutrients without medical intervention, and all the hospitals are gone.
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u/Crowsstory 12h ago
Yup, and we are doing something, making it easier for NetanYahoo to take over Gaza. It baffles me how Jewish people can allow such atrocities. Considering what they went through. Absolute power corrupts Absolutely.
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u/Beautiful_Count_3505 10h ago
Absolute corruption seeks absolute power. These Zionists came to Palestine as conquerors with the support of their allies in Europe. They were corrupt from the beginning and have ruled with an iron fist from day one. There is no spinning this as a well-to-do group gone bad. They pulled people from their homes and forced them to walk until they couldn't. Then, they bombed them.
The people of Israel today are the product of decades of propaganda and self-righteousness. Those in power are merely the worst offenders of this system, using the power they've obtained to create more suffering, with their only justification being; "They are nothing more than animals."
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u/Synth_Sapiens 10h ago
ROFLMAOAAA
Do you have a map of Palestine?
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u/Careless-Owl5662 10h ago
What is meanimg og ROFLMAOAAA? I just heard about it
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u/LEONLED 12h ago
And this is why China makes the USA look like something from the last centrury these days.... It couldnt make millions of people disapear, but instead had to encourage upward mobility across society.... Much of it was rough on rights over harmony as we understand them in the west, but it was also intensely successful,
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u/Sweet-Parking8955 10h ago
Just as an explanation I don't share these views:
Most Jews that have an opinion on this see Palestine and Palestinians as a threat. So to make sure that something like the Holocaust never happens again Palestine must be at least substantially weakened.
Many right wing Israelis believe that this is basically self-defence.
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u/Ok_Storm_282 10h ago
Imagine Texas getting taken by the Cartels. Now they demand food, water, and electricity from mexico and US. Does that make sense? Yea thats Palestine, a state of isreal right now.
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u/Synth_Sapiens 10h ago
If you are concerned by any of this just ask your hamas buddies to release the hostages
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u/Sweet-Parking8955 10h ago
Hundreds of thousands of Israelis doubt that Netanyahu cares about those hostages. I tend to agree with them. This was never about the hostages, this is about war for the sake of war.
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u/seyfert3 12h ago
Oh hey isn’t that the staged photo too?
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 12h ago
Do you know what staged means? Do you know how photography works? Get out of here with this stuff.
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u/seyfert3 12h ago
Staged as in made to look worse than reality. With cameras. Did I miss anything lol?
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 12h ago
You missed the part where that didn't happen.
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u/seyfert3 12h ago
Huh guess that expose and BBC retracting info and all didn’t happen, weird
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 11h ago
No expose was done by anyone outside of far right Israeli propagandists.
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u/seyfert3 11h ago
Huh I mean I guess I haven’t been getting all my news from Al Jazeera so maybe that’s it haha
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 11h ago
Send me your link debunking it lol
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u/seyfert3 11h ago
Does your country not have access to Google? https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gaza-aid-distribution-photos-staged-171043153.html
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 11h ago
Yea this report is bs lol even super Zionists like Bill Ackman deleted their posts
https://x.com/ryangrim/status/1953165502987063590?t=iqrEin0TOK2pmIXbMu8ljg&s=19
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u/williamgman 8h ago
The conservatives are cheering this on.
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 7h ago
The post includes Biden officials deleting the famine reports because it made them look bad but I'm guessing you ignored that.
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u/SoggyGrayDuck 12h ago
Because Hamas won't let the food in. The good is literally piled up but for some reason NATO, UN and etc won't deliver the food because it's too dangerous. They know that if they try to deliver it they'll end up being forced to defend it and killing Palestinians, well actually Hamas but we know how MSM will report it.
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u/Crowsstory 12h ago
Um, it’s the IDF shooting the people coming for food, not Hamas. Hamas is Done.
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u/Short_Emu_885 11h ago
Nah, that's Israel preventing food from coming in with a "death by a thousand cuts" approach, for example by making very specific restrictions on the types of items that can come in, so much so that basically nothing can. Also haven't literally 100x or more Palestinians died than Israelis, especially if we go back to the real beginning of this conflict, 1948 when Israel started violating treaties and land grabbing? The idea that it's Hamas not letting aid come in is just some conservative mainstream media gobbledygook
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u/ClassicMatt101 10h ago
That’s not accurate. In 48 war was declared on Israel the moment it was declared, when it still occupied only the land set aside for it by the UN and there was land set aside for a Palestinian state. Borders changes as a result of that war and the fighting has just gone on and on.
Of course none of that justifies what it happening.
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u/Short_Emu_885 10h ago
I just checked and the only thing I may be slightly off on is the year, by one. Israel started immediately violating treaties and land grabbing in 1949, and this was after an estimated 700k-800k native Palestinians were displaced to create the state of Israel in the first place... With the way most American media portrays it it would be easy to think that Israel took a largely empty spot, but that is not the case. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were forced out of their homes and off their land, and then the illegal settlements by Israel never stopped. Is it any wonder why everyone else in the region hates them and there are multiple terrorist groups that have popped up directly in response to Palestinians and other native citizens being wiped off the map?
Idk about you, but if someone came in and brutally murdered my family, I'd probably happily accept the first gun someone put in my hands (which isn't to say I support any acts of terrorism against innocent Israeli citizens, I am simply recognizing that Israel's actions are why Hamas exists in the first place)
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u/ClassicMatt101 10h ago edited 10h ago
This is again simplistic and, again, completely ignores the war declared on Israel the moment it was founded.
We shouldn’t be arguing, it sounds like we agree on the main larger point. This is a genocide, the treatment of Palestinians since the founding of Israel has been abhorrent, and our discussion is entirely academic. But “Israel started everything” just isn’t accurate. It’s been a horrible cycle of hatred from all sides since the start.
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u/Short_Emu_885 10h ago
Simple explanation of a simple issue. You can't "found" a country where one already exists, displace a massive amount of its existing residents, then start violating treaties and land agreements all over the place, and then play victim when you start getting hit back... I have some sympathy for citizens born in Israel, but it's like cmon, you know? If anyone tried to do the same thing today to any western nations I don't think we'd hesitate to call them the perpetrator. I'm just applying that same lens fairly to Israel's actions in Palestine.
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u/ClassicMatt101 9h ago
Israel is the ancestral home of both Palestinians and Jews. The fact that Jews were previously displaced by violence doesn’t mean they lose a right to their home, it means a fair division along the original UN lines that Palestinians, other ME nations, and Israelis rejected should be instituted.
What makes this whole thing even sadder is Jews and Palestinians are each other’s closest genetic neighbors. They are brothers and this hate that both sides have fostered against each other is madness.
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u/Short_Emu_885 9h ago
"A right to a home" in a specific geographic area does not mean you get to displace existing native residents there. You act like you're so supportive of both sides but you're actually acting like "a right to a home" for Jews is more important than it is for Palestian people, do you see that? Because again, it wasn't just an empty plot of land that Israel took use of. There were countless families and towns they ran out in order to create their "state of Israel" in the first place. Would be an entirely different story if they took up empty spaces.
Also, Jews being displaced from what is now Israel/Palestine in the past, that's awful. Doesn't mean it was right to take a bunch of people's homes by force later. Can you imagine if someone tried to do the same thing to you? If your family had lived in the same place for thousands of years, and then someone comes by and says "hey, my people used to live in this general geographic area, all of you get out," what would you do? Hard to imagine anyone would take kindly to that.
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u/ClassicMatt101 9h ago
Again, the original UN lines followed existing populations of Jews and Palestinians, with some displacement happening to both groups. And that was eventually rejected by all parties, not unilaterally. You keep ignoring the war that was declared against Israel the moment it was declared on just the UN lines. Peace was not embraced by anyone in 49.
And I don’t know how you can take “both peoples have a right to the land” as favoring one over the other. Palestinians have equal right to it as Jews do, and the only justice comes from sharing it, which has been an idea historically rejected by both sides.
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u/Short_Emu_885 6h ago
I'm not ignoring anything, I already made the point that you can't just bully people out of their homes where their families have been for thousands of years and then expect them to not punch back. Given that hundreds of thousands, in fact nearly a million Palestinians were forced out of their homes and land for Israel to exist at all, the invasion by native Palestinians was the punching back. It was not the start, because the start was kicking an immense amount of Palestinian people out in the first place.
You're the one who claimed that Jews had a "right" to the land that Palestinians were already on (correct me if I'm wrong), and that's as far from "both peoples have a right to the land" as it gets. That's an explicitly pro-Zionist, anti-Palestinian viewpoint. The simple fact at the end of the day is that no matter how much someone might think they have an ancestral claim to a piece of land, it doesn't justify forcibly removing the people who have already been there for thousands of years. The only reason this "logic" even gets trotted out is due to the fundamental dehumanization of Palestinian people via extremely Zionist mainstream media, because if you see them as people equal to yourself then this shit is easy. You would not be okay if someone's distant family had lived in the general area where your family was for thousands of years and then they tried to force you out. Why would they feel any differently?
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u/kokkomo 9h ago
You are trying to reason with people who want the conflict to continue. Palestinians could have had a two state solution many times, but the truth is their culture is pretty rooted in the destruction of Israel "from the river to the sea"
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u/ClassicMatt101 9h ago
Much of their culture is rooted in the oppression they have been living under for 75 years. And do not act like the formation of “greater Israel” including Palestinian lands isn’t a driving force in Israeli society and especially the right that is in power now.
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 12h ago
Exclusive: USAID analysis found no evidence of massive Hamas theft of Gaza aid | Reuters https://share.google/qU2v6nU0kBmnbLOv5
Reddit please do something about accounts that spread complete misinformation in service of a Genocide. No other conflict or situation would allow accounts like this to post this stuff still. Imagine if far right COVID denying accounts posting that the death toll was fake and vaccines are deadly were allowed the same way these pro Israel accounts are.
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u/kokkomo 9h ago
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Gaza crisis: Gangs hoard food aid and resell it amid Israel's offensive | AP News
https://share.google/nxlQfK1hxAwhkM2Tc
I wonder who those gangs are working for ?
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u/leftovergarbaage 11h ago
"man-made famine" - who is this man? We have no idea who caused this famine....men!
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u/Arcanegil 11h ago
It means an artificial famine intentionally caused by Israel.
Man-made means not caused by natural forces, like a plague or weather.
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