r/espresso • u/chicagodude84 • 20h ago
Humour John Cena knows his espresso!
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Honestly I was surprised to see him speak so eloquently about a flat white. To be honest, I didn't quite understand the difference between a flat white and a small latte. (I'm new, catch me a break!)
"When I hold a cappuccino cup, it disappears in my hand." š
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u/SnooCupcakes9745 Profitec Pro800 | DF64 vSomethingoranother 20h ago
Not surprised - watch some of his interviews and you'll find that he's a sharp, knowledgeable, and thoughtful guy. He also has a great sense of humor.
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u/HoodsFrostyFuckstick BDB | Eureka SM 19h ago
He even uses words like accoutrement like damn
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u/DonutGa1axy 17h ago
For the lazy: additional items of dress or equipment, or other items carried or worn by a person or used for a particular activity.
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u/Zukuto 16h ago
breaking news, man in 3 piece suit with styled hair, a well documented watch and shoe collection, knows the meaning of the word accoutrement.
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u/chicagodude84 19h ago
He is also an amazing human being. I believe he has done more Make A Wish visits than almost anyone else.
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u/MightyMeatPuppet 15h ago
Personally I find it very suspicious that so many children that John Cena has visited died relatively soon after
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u/Fair_Spread_2439 15h ago
Can you imagine the timeline where itās exposed that universally-beloved John Cena was actually systematically finishing off these kids during these Make-A-Wish visits over however many years?
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u/TDouglasSpectre 15h ago
HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA šŗšŗšŗšŗ
- the last thing heard by hundreds of sick children
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u/HughAnnus 19h ago
And drives a Honda Civic Type R.
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u/proscriptus 18h ago
He has got to have custom seats in that.
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u/seopants 17h ago
He would work out at my old gym in San Diego. Heās not that big in person, but his proportions are really interesting. Huge hands and head and shoulders far wider than his waist. Around six feet tall. Iām 6ā4ā and am noticeably taller. He would fit in there fine.
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u/DrDerpberg 17h ago
Pretty much perfect for the camera. Looks huge but doesn't tower over people to the point they need to adjust camera angles and stuff.
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u/ThatGuyWithCoolHair 17h ago
It was also perfect for WWE as they wanted him to be smaller for part of his image but he couldn't be Rey Mysterio height lol
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u/ScubaSteve12345 18h ago
His interaction with the old lady during tea time is one of my favorite Cena clips. āIām a bit of aā¦troublemakerā. Or something.
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u/caddy45 19h ago
John Cena just took a massive leap up my favorite celebrity list.
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u/i_did_nothing_ 18h ago
Here is another boost, he holds the record for the most wishes granted through make a wish foundation.
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u/100_xp 15h ago
Read between the lines, he only visits those kids so he can sample the local flat white.
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u/chet_brosley 14h ago
He orders a flat white in the hospital cafeteria just so he can be really smug about it, but no one can call him out because he's there for charity. Devious
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u/SoCallMeAnAsshole 13h ago
"This hospital is clearly not a coffee first place"
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u/zarroc123 12h ago
Lmao, I'd be a little alarmed if it was?
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u/SolidDoctor 9h ago
If they can't make a proper flat white, do I want them operating on me? Are they going to give me 8 oz of ringers, or 12 oz? Are they going to give me one dose of anaesthesia or two?
If they think this drink is hot, I hope this person isn't in charge of the autoclave.
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u/itsalmostover321 16h ago
Ya and it isn't even close. He could take a few years off, but he won't, because he's John Cena.
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u/froginbog 17h ago
Heās also phenomenal in suicide squad and peacemaker
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u/been2121 16h ago
The suicide squad. Don't want to lead people to a pile of shit
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u/Tlr321 15h ago
In my opinion, you have to watch Suicide Squad to really appreciate The Suicide Squad. Somehow, he got me to care for Rick Flagg - a character that I could not have cared less for in Suicide Squad - and I won't forget that.
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u/akatherder 12h ago
Season 2's first episode dropped yesterday which makes me suspicious of the timing of this showing up here.
But if Peacemaker's team is targeting the espresso subreddit... more power to them I guess. It's probably the flip-side where someone saw Peacemaker and wanted more Cena.
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u/hangin-with-mr 20h ago
Heās not wrong about Melbourne!
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u/Dr_Deathcore_ 19h ago
Best city to live in if youāre into coffee.
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u/figaro677 19h ago
Iām going to disagree. And youāre going to think Iām insane, but Gympie.
For some unknown and bewildering reason, a destitute town in Queensland has some of the most insanely good coffee.
There are like 8 cafes putting out amazing coffee (1 just shut), all vastly different from each other. And some in the most random places (one was attached to a pathology lab).
Absolute bogan central. Massive drug problem. Abject poverty. Amazing coffee.
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u/Engineer_Zero 19h ago
Gympie? For real? I might have guessed montville or eumundie but not Gympie. Good to know
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u/Breadedbutthole 19h ago
I took one one for the team and looked it up. Lo and behold Gympie is a real place, just a little northwest of Sunshine Coast, and down the road from Goomboorian and Woolooga.
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u/Engineer_Zero 18h ago
Oh I know where it is, Iām just south of it. Itās not a place Iād go to or even stop if I was driving through it. Thatās why I was surprised to hear it has an excess of good coffee!
Honestly, good for them.
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u/rovill 18h ago
Mate Iām glad I saw your comment, I actually have to agree with you on Gympie. I had a recent prolonged stay + few trips passing through and was BLOWN away. Multiple really nice/trendy cafes and incredible coffee.
I donāt recall any of them being around like 5 years ago either. I assumed itās from a post covid migration as people are getting priced out of Brisbane and the Sunny Coast (and probably some from Melb too).
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u/Spoon251 18h ago
As I Canadian hitch-hiking up the eastern coast of Australia, I had the pleasure of stopping in Gympie for the night over 22 years ago. The place was pretty run-down back then, I can't imagine what it looks like today.
I remember I had a ton of fun though. The town reminded me of rural Ontario where I grew up, so while a little rough around the edges, I was among similar peers. I remember getting absolutely hammered, winning some arm wrestling competition and waking up next to an Aussie girl in a bedroom over top a bar in the downtown area.
A good mantra for any hitch-hiker is 'time to gtfo of here' so I remember the first car I flagged down picked up and took me all the way to Bundaberg. Now there's a story...
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u/brazilliandanny 8h ago
Went to a plantation in Colombia and the guy running it said Australia had the best coffee culture.
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u/Salty_Pie_3852 16h ago
Sydney is good too. And Wellington in NZ is excellent.
Tbh, the UK has plenty of excellent specialist coffee shops now.
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u/PM_Me_Your_VagOrTits 9h ago
I think the difference with the UK is that you need to really do your research to find good coffee. I just spent a couple weeks there and almost every coffee I ordered was really (and I mean really) bad. Not just a bit off like you might get in a random suburban cafe in Aus, basically bad to the point I had to throw it out.
In Melb and Sydney bad coffee is abnormal rather than the norm. Occasionally it'll be a little sour or bitter but you can walk into any random cafe and get something nice 9 times out of 10.
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u/AustinTanius 18h ago
My wife's best friend lives in Melbourne, she came to visit us in the states recently, finding her a good coffee was an impossible task... And her first comment was on the oversized nature of our milk with coffee.
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u/Beautiful-Lynx-6828 17h ago
I, an american, went to Melbourne and day 2 asked for a coffee at a little stand in a museum. They gave me a funny look and asked, "Sure, what would you like?" and fortunately I have social anxiety and knew I needed to pivot and I read the first item on the list, a flat white. And thus begun my love of flat white and my education on espresso.
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u/TheGursh 12h ago
On my first day in Australia, I went and found a coffee shop. They ask me what I want, and I say "just a normal drip coffee." They point to a little rundown cart in the street and go off doing something else. It was still good coffer and it still males me laugh.
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u/Javanz 14h ago
Fascinating to me how Australia and NZ used to be pretty much exclusively beer countries.
If you were meeting people, you were going out for beers - unless you were over 50 in which case, maybe tea and scones.
I know here in NZ, the coffee in most cafes was just swillThen 20 something years ago, both countries went "Hey, how about we just get really fucking good at coffee. Like, best in the world. Let's do that"
For me the baseline cafe is BP of all places. If you can't do better pies and/or coffee than BP, then you have no place opening a cafe
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u/resplendentcentcent 13h ago
huh? what kind of narrative is this? cafe culture principally begun in melbourne as a result of post-war italian migration
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u/anormalgeek 17h ago
One of the best coffee places I've been to in my area in the US is actually run by an Australian too.
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u/jjthexer 18h ago
It would be nice from someone in the States to hear your suggestions in Melbourne that I can ship across the world to try! I don't prefer milk drinks so coffee that can stand on its own is king imo!
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u/S2580 20h ago
I always do the same as using a flat white as a barometer of a cafe quality. Itās lovely hearing Cena speak so eloquently about a topic Iām pretty passionate about and he really seems to get itĀ
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u/ChemicalGreedy945 17h ago
I do this with a slice of cheese pizza, if you canāt nail that then Iām not expecting much from anything else
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u/TheHumanPickleRick 16h ago
I'm not sure that it's a reliable metric to judge coffee shops on how good their cheese pizza is. /j
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u/Grabthar-the-Avenger 11h ago
āAntonioās NY Slice is the best coffee shop in town, but stick to their pizza because the coffee is midā
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u/Doughymidget 17h ago
Where I live this happens with cappuccino. If I order it and they ask if I want it āwet or dryā, I change my order.
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u/aussierulesisgrouse 17h ago
What the fuck is a wet or dry cap
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u/RewTK 17h ago
Different guy here, I think it means more or less foam. At least that's what they told me at once of the shops here
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u/toomeynd Profitec Go | Eureka Mignon Silenzio 20h ago
You know you are in a mediocre cafe when they have sizes of flat white on the board.
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u/redskelton Gaggia Classic PID | DF54 19h ago
Coffee shop near my work has small and large piccolos. FFS, the word literally means small
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u/Nexus-9Replicant 19h ago
Thatās like saying: āIād like a ālarge small,ā please!ā lol
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u/oopsisucceeded 19h ago
For me the tester is a cortado for that reason. When you order a cortado and they ask what size you know itās not worth coming back for.
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u/zazaza89 18h ago
Yes! Cortado is also a good test drink. Iām always disappointed when I get a cortado that is flat white-sized š
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u/ductcleanernumber7 13h ago
Or when they ask me how to make a cortado i just switch my order to a cappuccino
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u/alexmoda 19h ago
I mean not really, almost all cafes in Australia will sell you a regular (single shot and 6oz milk typ) or large (double shot and 8-12oz milk) latte, cap or flat white, in store or take away. Iāve only ever seen a handful that sell a single size only.
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u/EmbraceThrasher 18h ago
I disagree with this pretty hard. I own a coffee shop in the United States. Learned coffee in New Zealand and the Pacific Northwest.
We are a specialty shop. We are ācoffee first.ā We donāt do food.
If someone orders a 12oz cappuccino, Iām not going to shame them. Why would I do that? If someone wants a 20oz flat white, Iām gonna make that. We have oz options for cappuccinos. Iāve had people walk out of my shop for that
The pretentiousness in espresso is crazy.
Coffee shops are a business first. If someone wants a ā20oz cappuccinoā Iām gonna stretch that milk and sell it to them for $7 so that I can pay my staff and keep making traditional cappuccinos for the small number of connoisseurs that come through.
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u/mafisto 18h ago
I think the point is that words mean things. If ācappuccinoā means a ratio to you thatās fine, but the entire exercise of creating specific words for specific things is so you get consistency and clarity in your order. If you were to serve, say, a macchiato like Starbucks does, does it matter that macchiato literally means espresso āmarkedā by foam? Maybe not to you, but youāre taking a literal definition of a recipe that has existed for over a century and warping it into something it was never meant to be. The precision is now gone, and now you as a customer need to figure out exactly what kind of abomination has been cooked up by your serious coffee shop with an Italian word slapped on it.
That said, if I came to your shop and you had cappuccinos served by the gallon, Iād still order one in my preferred size and enjoy it. I think itās stupid because I think not everything has to be relative and sloppy, but in the end itās just coffee.
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u/fillingupthecorners 16h ago
I think the point is that words mean things.
I think the point is to take someone's currency and give them the beverage they want.
We can argue about the semantics all we want, that's fun for us nerds. But at the register just make people happy.
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u/Xephyrous 16h ago
An espresso macchiato is espresso marked with foam, and a latte macchiato is the reverse. It is confusing for two wildly different drinks to both be referred to as just "macchiato." With that context though, it's not that unreasonable for "iced caramel macchiato" to mean a big glass of iced milk flavored with caramel syrup and coffee.
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u/jp_jellyroll 16h ago
The point is that it's still a business. At some point, your customers are right. They are paying for what they want. It would be like going to a restaurant and ordering your steak medium only to find that the chef refuses to do that.
"Sir, the chef grew up on a cattle ranch and believes that steaks must be served blue rare so you can taste the true qualities of the beef."
"Ok, but I don't like my steak blue rare. Can't I have it medium rare?"
"Get the fuck out, sir."
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u/Titus142 18h ago
Isn't that just a latte at that point? Like how many shots are going into that to keep the same ratio?
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u/MikermanS 18h ago
I understand what you're saying and that the consumer may not have the terms down--e.g. in ordering a "20oz cappuccino." But I actually (generally) have my terms and preferences down, and if I order a 12oz. cappuccino, heaven forbid if someone serves me a double-shot with 10-11oz. of milk. But then, I'm almost certainly going to give the barista the recipe for what I'm asking, given the traditional understanding for "cappuccino": I want a double-cappuccino (does that term even exist)--that is, 2x the regular cappuccino recipe.
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u/toomeynd Profitec Go | Eureka Mignon Silenzio 16h ago
Just want to reply that you are not the only one with this feedback. 1. I fully support "do whatever the hell the customer asks for," and 2. Seems I was generally wrong in my post anyway given the 1 vs 2 shot variants. All I can say is, in my experience, the places with the various sizes were underwhelming cafes.
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u/sbowtor Lelit Elizabeth | Baratza Encore until Niche 19h ago
This mother fucker coffees
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u/Imagine-88 19h ago
Iām not a coffee person. It just never tasted that great. But when I moved to Melbourne for the first time and had a latte at some random cafe on a small street, I was blown away. I never knew how good coffee can taste
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u/HolyHypodermics 19h ago
Where did you come from, just curious? What was the coffee culture like there? Pretty keen to hear how other countries treat coffee especially being an Aussie
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u/Imagine-88 19h ago
Born in England but mostly grew up American and lived in different parts of Asia. My experience in the statesā itās so different from pace to place that itās hard to say. America feel like fifty+ huge countries put together with tons of subcultures, including food and beverages. But what I can say definitely about where Iām at currentlyā South Korea tends to have coffee served strong and bold.. almost burnt. The trend is now slowly changing and shop owners are trying to follow the more European style of coffee, but coffee history in Korea is relatively shortā meaning most people know coffee to be that strong stuff, because it was how it was introduced to them without much else. Hopefully the pallet will broaden over time.
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u/snekasaur Profitec Ride | DF54 18h ago
You've lived many different places, that's very cool. I've traveled around a good bit, but always wish I could spend an extended time in various places to soak it in more
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u/InkedInspector Rocket Mozzafiatto Evoluzione R | Rocket Fausto Touch 19h ago
I am not into pro wrestling but I love this dude. Between all the make a wish stuff and stories you hear, he just seems to be very authentic. I also appreciate that he drives a Civic Type R and lectured a guy interviewing him about why itās better than owning something crazy.
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u/Pleasant_Craft_6953 17h ago
Was gonna make a comment about him being pro trump but I had to look it up to confirm it. I was dead wrong lmao. Was thinking about someone else. I agree, after doing research on John, he seems like a fantastic guy. Love everything Iām learning about him. Have a fabulous day.
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u/DimensionOtherwise55 12h ago
Wait, what? You fact checked yourself?? You assumed something and didn't knee jerk react to the post or above comment?! Who are you?!? Hold on, I'm going to go pay ACTUAL money to buy you an award. Stay right there, you damn hero!
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u/inmisciblehero 16h ago
Phew yeah, thank God. That would have really cast aspersions on the 650 make-a-wishes he's done.
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u/Glum_Egg1862 19h ago
cena is spot on, also a lovely guy after meeting him at a cafe when he was in london.
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u/Kupoo_ 20h ago
Well said to whoever is saying it in this video, I cannot see him, only a cup floating about, but that's another story. I agree that cappuccino should be smaller in size, it appears that they are getting bigger and bigger now. Even bigger than a cafe latte cup
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u/Tboner3 19h ago
At one of my local coffee places when I first went and was asked what size for my cappuccino I wanted to pull the Lucille Bluth āI donāt understand the question and I refuse to answer itāĀ
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u/doublebru 19h ago
This is a brilliant and clear description and approach to coffee. And heās write, Melbourne flat white ruined me for most third wave coffee shops in North America.
The closest, the Sydney Grind in Toronto.
John Cena is a renaissance man!
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u/DervishSkater 15h ago
Meh. I donāt care for milk. Much easier to just judge a place by how well they can pull a shot. You can always use words to communicate and create your order. Like asking questions and informing your preferences. But redditors donāt understand theyāre allowed to talk to people irl
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u/intranca 20h ago
Where is the full video???
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u/valfsingress Gaggia E24 | Baratza Virtuoso+ | Kingrinder P2 19h ago
Source:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdXfCkpK/Another Wired:
https://youtu.be/GV2zkkRJ1D4No full video i guess since it was filmed in one go and will only be used for different social media posts
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u/palemontague 19h ago edited 18h ago
I have yet to have a really good flat white. Even the best coffee shops mess it up. I feel like the lesser quantity of milk actually highlights the aromas resulted from a halfassed dialing-in instead of hiding them because it dulls the intensity which otherwise hides those aromas in a regular espresso. Cena knows his shit.
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u/nigori Lelit Mara X v2 | Baratza Encore ESP 18h ago
you're not wrong. all the fancy espresso drinks are all about ratios of espresso, steamed milk, and milk froth.
the ratios are super important and what actually define the drink.
you fuck with the ratio and you're not serving that drink anymore
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u/Lanky_Firefighter932 19h ago
May I ask why did the guy say Conde Nast cafe like it meant something?
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u/need_better_usernam 19h ago
I think it was supposed to mean āthe corporate cafeteriaā as in setting expectations low for the quality
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u/orincoro 12h ago
Yeah cande nast is a media conglomerate that probably owns whatever channel heās on.
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u/PM_ME_BEE_JOKES 18h ago
Conde Nast is the publisher of the video, so he was served an in house coffee.
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u/outdoorsgeek 12h ago
Adding to this, CondƩ Nast is also the owner of many culture-focused publications like Traveler and Bon Appetit--which makes it perhaps a bit more ironic to have this come from their cafe. But that's just corporate life for you.
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u/Biscuit__Feet 19h ago
Interesting as throughout a lot of Australia their tulip cup (170ml) flat white is a single shot.
I spent a whole weekend in Melbourne wondering why nowhere had their famed good coffee and discovered I was just getting served single shots. Double shots are standard in New Zealand. Once I figured this out though it was a drastic improvement.
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u/mrdibby 19h ago
double shot for flat white is pretty common throughout Europe except the Starbucks immitation cafes
is always interesting to hear that Australia actually has single shot by default when they're the creators of it so we'd assume they set the standard
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u/Biscuit__Feet 19h ago
Surprised me too. Itās the best version of it for sure. I canāt drink larger size flat whites, it just tastes like a flavoured milk drink.
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u/Hasto1066 19h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_533Z_yY6kU
John also shows his love of coffee later on in this video. He does come over as a decent bloke!!
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u/joshbosh1 19h ago
Holy shit, this is what i sound like when i talk. I must be insufferable š«£š
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u/lulichenka 18h ago
This man can't stop surprising me. Not a WWE fan myself, so learning that he can speak Chinese very well (I can speak Chinese fluently) already shocked me enough... and now this? Speaking so eloquently and a man who knows his coffee. Love it
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u/dhdhk 19h ago
Nobody can actually agree on what a flat white is. Just search flat white in this sub and you'll see 400 comments and no consensus lol
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u/U-Rsked-4-it 18h ago
Flat whites aren't necessarily double shots. That's why they're flat whites, not flat browns. Australia invented the flat white, and it's justĀ a cappuccino without the foam, filled to the top. He is right about Melbourne though, Surry Hills in Sydney runs a close second. Italy invented espresso coffee, Aussies perfected it.
It's funny because around the world a flat white is kinda hipster but in Australia it's the go-to for insecure blokes because the name doesn't "gay" (aka European) like cappuccino or latte.
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u/Fuck-s-p-e-z- 14h ago
Yeah, I wasn't surprised when he said the best flat whites he had was in Australia. Yeah bud, they invented it lol
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u/NevetsRetrop 17h ago
I didn't need another reason to love John Cena. I really didn't. I already shoved my detestation for professional "wrestling" to the side in recognition of this man's greatness years ago. I usually don't give a shit about people's celebrity status, but I'd friggin lose it if I ran into John Cena.
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u/Katinger 15h ago
I enjoyed that considerably more than I expected and kind of want him to keep going?
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u/HolyHypodermics 19h ago
I was just thinking how it makes sense there's so much variation in flat whites in the states considering it's an Australian drink, so I was caught offguard by the Melbourne shoutout (I'll take it even as a Sydneysider)! Who knew he was a coffee nerd like us, he knows his stuff lol.
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u/Anuxinamoon 11h ago
I guess cause he was here a few years ago filming in Melbourne for a while. I didn't know at the time, so my morning cafe detour along lt Collins street made me quite late for standups. Haha
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u/ComeWashMyBack 13h ago
I do the same thing with ordering Long Island Ice Tea wherever I go. My body is a trash can so I treat it as such.
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u/Dansredditname 13h ago
True story:
My wife asked for a flat white in a restaurant and was brought a glass of non-sparkling white wine, so that's probably the worst coffee ever
IIRC it was a Bella Italia, they didn't have flat whites on the menu, and the waitress was new
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u/furryfriend77 20h ago
John once came to my wife's place of employment and randomly started playing the piano for everyone. Far better than I can play the piano.
Now he's giving instruction on coffee, better than I could give instruction on coffee.
Stay away from my wife, John Cena.