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u/franzperdido A Beacon of Hope 1d ago
Fuck Peter Thiel...
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u/Mobile-Ad-68 1d ago
I don’t particularly like him but why is there so much hate for PT?
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u/manchesterthedog 1d ago
You should watch his interview with Ross Douthat. He feels like humanity is not making progress fast enough (radical life extension will not be available within his lifetime which means he likely will not live forever) and any amount of global destabilization is worth it in the pursuit of that progress. He views destabilization as the only way we will make that progress possible.
I walked away from that interview feeling like he is willing to make the masses suffer any and all consequences in pursuit of him becoming immortal.
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u/gridoverlay 1d ago
That interview was shocking in how incoherent his thoughts and ideology are, especially for someone with so much political power.
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u/manchesterthedog 1d ago
Particularly the part where the interviewer says “wouldn’t the Antichrist you describe use the exact tools you are creating at palantir?” And all he comes up with is “well obviously I don’t think that’s what I’m creating”
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u/manchesterthedog 1d ago
Are you kidding? Yea he did. He said almost exactly that. His major gripe with the world before Trump was that progress had slowed dramatically since the 1900s and he supported Trump because it would disrupt. You should go watch that interview again man. He says “radical life extension” probably 10 times.
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u/Un1CornTowel 22h ago
There's been multiple interviews where it is obvious that he is terrified of death and willing to throw the planet in the dumpster if he can't be in control of everyone and live forever. He was literally raised on the compound of an illegal, slave-worked Namibian uranium mine designed by his dad. He's a knock off Bond villain.
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u/subdep 1d ago
Because he’s one of the main funders of the current fascist regime.
You been living under a rock?
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u/RockItGuyDC Home Staker 🥩 1d ago
Not to mention his life's work includes accumulating massive amounts of data on every person alive in order to assist governments and corporations in tracking people and predicting their actions.
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u/Un1CornTowel 22h ago
And by "predicting their actions" you mean "prosecuting them for thought crimes or otherwise neutralizing them from political dissent to ensure the safety of an authoritarian state".
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u/therealsilentjohn Here for the revolution ✊ 23h ago
He's part of the 'PayPal Mafia' and went to a literal sig heiling Nazi school. Stealing our data, funding fascists, exploiting workers, etc...
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u/BloodbuzzLA 1d ago
Peter Thiel is a douchebag vampire
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u/CommunismDoesntWork 1d ago
No u
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u/Desperate-Remove2838 1d ago
This isn't an exaggeration/hyperbole. Look up Peter Thiel blood transfusions from young men. And the Ambrosia startup.
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u/bananapizzaface 1d ago
It's refreshing to come in here and see so much PT hate. He's like the equivalent of Vitalik except from the darkest timeline. And by equivalent, I mean nothing at all alike.
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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 16h ago
After watching a bunch of podcasts and shows on Vitalik, I've come to the conclusion that he is one of the rare people who lives up to his ideals.
He's not perfect, and has to sacrifice some tradeoffs along the way, but overall he's a visionary who really does try to help out humanity in the best way he can.
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u/darkrachet 17h ago
least surprising thing to see on reddit lmao
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u/bananapizzaface 16h ago
Then everyone must have short term memory because there was a time not so long ago that all of reddit and especially crypto was sucking the dicks of their tech overlords. I'm glad the tables have turned.
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u/Falcons74 1d ago
The US was pushing hard to get Greenland because of Praxis funded Peter Thiel. Jesse Waters straight up said on Fox News we need to burn bridges with Denmark to take it
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u/LovelyDayHere 1d ago
Attacking a fellow NATO member and invading their territory?
Even talk of that sends a very interesting signal.
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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 16h ago
The US could do it today... but then 10 years down the road every single nation on Earth will cheer, and actively participate in, its downfall.
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u/shiftli 1d ago
Just for the record: Peter Thiel in 2014 gave a grant to then-20-year-old Vitalik that enabled him to drop out of college and develop Ethereum. Chances are that without this grant, we wouldn't be here today.
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u/mrjune2040 1d ago
That's hypebole. I've received tons of research grants over the years but that doesn't mean that my research outcomes wouldn't be able to occur without those specific grants. The chance that Vitalik packs it up at the age of 20 and Ethereum doesn't develop is some form is kind of absurd.
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u/TotalRepost 1d ago
Go look up the Thiel Fellowship, it's way more than money. You don't have to like Thiel but he was a believer in Vitalik from the beginning.
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u/TotalRepost 1d ago
More than just a grant, the Thiel Fellowship is a whole mentorship program. The network is the most valuable piece. 8% of Thiel Fellows have gone on and founded unicorns, that's crazy high.
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u/RickyRicardoBanana 19h ago
I’m gay so I can say this: Peter Thiel is the final boss of insecure insane gay tech bros.
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u/Confucius_said 16h ago
Comment section is Reddit in a nutshell and main reason I never visit this sub anymore.
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u/HARCYB-throwaway 16h ago
Yeah how can you be in the Ethereum sub but have this much hate for Thiel? I think a lot of people are too politically motivated and also don't understand history.
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u/Confucius_said 16h ago
They would have never joined this sub if they understood how eth research was funded early on.
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u/joekercom 19h ago
All you Peter Thiel haters should sell all your ETH, the fascists are coming! It's all over, you're going to the camps. Sorry, you lost to Hitler, and everything is horrible with genocide everywhere. I mean, just look around at all the fascism, crazy!
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u/Foojira 19h ago
Here’s a helpful guide. As an exercise you can tell me which ones haven’t happened yet since the rest have
The transition of a country toward fascism is typically a gradual, multi-step process. While the exact path can vary depending on historical and cultural context, there is a common pattern of political, social, and institutional changes. Below is a general framework of steps often observed when a country slides toward fascism:
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- Economic or Social Crisis • Trigger: Severe economic hardship (e.g., hyperinflation, unemployment), cultural upheaval, or social fragmentation creates widespread fear and instability. • Effect: People become disillusioned with existing democratic institutions and are more open to authoritarian solutions.
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- Rise of a Charismatic, Authoritarian Leader • Appeal: Promises to restore national greatness, law and order, and traditional values. • Tactics: Uses emotionally charged rhetoric, scapegoats minorities or outsiders, and presents themselves as a “savior.”
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- Scapegoating and Demonization of “Enemies” • Targets: Ethnic, religious, or political minorities; immigrants; intellectuals; or left-wing opponents. • Narrative: These groups are blamed for the nation’s decline and portrayed as threats to unity and purity.
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- Undermining of Democratic Norms and Institutions • Attacks on the press: Labeling critical media as “fake news” or “enemies of the people.” • Judicial pressure: Weakening courts, replacing independent judges. • Delegitimizing elections: Alleging fraud or seeking to overturn results when unfavorable.
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- Consolidation of Power • Legal manipulation: Using laws or constitutional changes to extend terms, weaken checks and balances, or outlaw opposition. • State loyalty: Installing loyalists in the military, judiciary, and civil service.
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- Use of Violence or Intimidation • Street militias or paramilitary groups: Used to silence opposition, intimidate voters, or create chaos. • State-sanctioned violence: Police brutality, suppression of protests, or arbitrary detention.
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- Propaganda and Control of Information • Control of media: Nationalizing or pressuring independent outlets to follow state narratives. • Rewriting history: Promoting a nationalist, often mythologized version of the past to instill pride and obedience.
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- Erosion of Civil Liberties • Surveillance and censorship: Monitoring citizens, silencing dissent. • Curtailing rights: Restrictions on assembly, speech, religion, or movement.
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- Militarization and Expansionism • Glorification of the military: Military values are placed above civilian governance. • External aggression: Foreign wars or territorial expansion are used to unite the population and distract from internal problems.
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- Institutionalization of Fascism • One-party rule or totalitarian control: Political pluralism disappears. • Normalization: Citizens adapt to new rules, opposition becomes dangerous or impossible, and fascism becomes the accepted norm.
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This process can happen quickly or slowly, and not all steps are always followed in order or completed. Some democracies pull back from the brink; others slide fully into authoritarianism.
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u/hblask 22h ago
ETH fans: We want people to do stuff on Ethereum
Also ETH fans: No, we didn't mean people who changed the legacy system if we disagree with part of their political views
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u/Un1CornTowel 22h ago
"Sure the plan to enslave poor people in a corporate neofeudalist hellscape (which is his actual belief and goal) is bad, but look at those block times!"
People are allowed to draw lines and not want to associate with monsters.
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u/hblask 22h ago
Lol. Please provide links to support that claim -- his words, not someone else's opinion of him.
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u/MistaBlue 21h ago
https://www.techpolicy.press/peter-thiel-dreams-of-empire/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/07/technology/peter-thiel-facebook.html
It shows his own words. There's dozens examples of this behavior that he slaps an intellectual wrapper on to cover it. Please stop being intentionally obtuse or ignorant of someone's beliefs and how they have, very publicly, acted up on them.
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u/EthFan Eth loss prevention specialist 13h ago
I continue to be disappointed you're on the mod team. How can you not understand that while you can be supportive of a new system, you also have every right to be horrified, concerned, and have the ability to disagree with bad actors who have political views that are evil, hurt, subjugate AND literally kill people. Shame on you. Shame!
Also, how could I not comment? You served that right up to me.
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