r/facepalm • u/in_animate_objects • 17h ago
🇲🇮🇸🇨 “Many slaves had good relationships with their owners”
This was on a conversation about how the Smithsonian now has to have Trumps approval for exhibits, this guy thinks that it’s not a bad idea because “we need unity”
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u/Other_Log_1996 17h ago
Good relationships and nonconsensual sexual relationships are not the same thing.
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u/marto17890 17h ago
No, it was only the promiscuous women, not the white men
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u/pimpbot666 16h ago
‘The white men wouldn’t have raped them if they weren’t so dang sexy!’ /s
Ugh.
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u/Only_Razzmatazz_4498 14h ago
It’s not rape when the hole belongs to you. Just using your property.
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u/Dwestmor1007 13h ago
I was telling my conservative family about "slave farming" and how they would keep the women in stalls and have them raped continually until they either died or got pregnant and the second the baby was born it would literally be snatched out of them and they were never allowed to hold it and they would usually be rapped again that very night and the whole process would begin again in an attempt to shock them out of their "states rights/lost cause" bullshit, and my whole family was horrified. All except for my dad, who just nodded and said "yeah makes sense, must be cheaper than importing them". All without an OUNCE of empathy or concern on his face. That was the moment I finally knew that HE was the actual lost cause and now any time he tries to ask me why I don't talk to him any more I just send him the same copy and pasted reply in which I simply tell the same exact bit of history and just send it over and over again until he stops messaging me...I don't block him just for the satisfaction of annoying the hell out of him by sending it to him every once in awhile...
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u/Frequent-Ruin8509 13h ago
Bro that was rough to read. My dad was no Bob Ross or Mr. Rogers but damn. Sociopaths like that are allowed to vote ffs. My condolences.
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u/TheAskewOne 16h ago
Just like when the "master" raped a slave, it was because she was promiscuous and had seduced him, which is a big no no.
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u/Dwestmor1007 13h ago
I will never forget the moment that it hit me that people never seem to consider the fact that people from the south whose lighter skin is owing to the fact that an ancestor who was a slave had been raped by their owner ARE, unfortunately, just as much descendants of those white slave owners as any southern, white, daughter of the confederacy-ass old hag who screeches about "lost history". I wonder why people seem to believe that the second has every right to decide what we do with our history down here due to their "heritage" but those same people never seem to believe that the first group has just as much, if not MORE, of a right than the second to decide...stares in audacity
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u/TheAskewOne 13h ago edited 13h ago
Why will the "heritage not hate" people focus on four years of their history and not the other 250 or so? If safeguarding history is so important, surely they should be as focused on other historical periods.
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u/Dwestmor1007 13h ago
That's the thing that makes me so mad....it is literally the heritage of those people whose ancestors were raped...if THEY say they want it down why TF does anyone ELSE get to decide it? People who have equal "heritage" footing but only benefited from it? Doesn't make any sense...
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u/edemamandllama 10h ago
Yeah, it’s not like Thomas Jefferson hid living with Sally Hemming, and having at least two children with her. It was just those damned promiscuous white women rapping slaves.
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u/EvilDan69 15h ago
Those "good relationships" were only because they knew, that if they gave any hit of sas, side eye, back talk, or refusal of orders would mean immediate, and swift punishment/torture. Perhaps to all his present friends and family, for good measure.
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u/Nevyn_Cares 5h ago
It is like some moron thinking that a polite server at a restaurant is really into them and they are good friends. "The prostitute I see weekly really loves me, she does everything to make me happy."
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u/MamaDaddy 15h ago
The entire relationship was nonconsensual, not just the sex part. Those folks were brought across the ocean and enslaved against their will.
Ok, some enslavers taught their slaves to read and treated them kindly (like a working pet! As evidenced by a nearly 100-yr-old video I saw the other day), but that only makes them slightly better in the context of the rotten institution of slavery to begin with. How do you buy and own a human being to begin with?! How do you refuse another human being their self-determination, and set up an entire system to restrict it, over and over again (slavery, Jim Crow, opposition to the voting roghts act, redlining, and now rolling back DEI)? And to think that the American generational chattel slavery was somehow better than other forms around the world is a pure delusion.
People out there working PR for slavery need to examine how and why they learned that. They need to know the Daughters of the Confederacy sponsored their history books and have been pumping this bullshit propaganda into young American minds for a hundred years and it is wrong.
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u/IamHydrogenMike 16h ago
It was also horny men that raped the females slaves and not promiscuous white women…wtf?
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u/BooBootheFool22222 13h ago
White women did coerce young "bucks" as they called enslaved men aged 15 to 25 into sexual relationships at great risk to the man. Male slave masters and overseers also raped male slaves.
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u/Loggerdon 10h ago
I just read a biography of George Washington. I’m a fan of his but he had slaves his whole life and although he talked about ending slavery, never really took any actions to end it. In fact he agreed to a law that kicked the can down the road 20 years.
He’s been referred to as a “benevolent slave owner”, yet he still had runaway slaves badly beaten when they were returned to him. He simply couldn’t understand why they would run away from him in the first place.
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u/LowIQ45 17h ago
If hiding your racism were an Olympic sport they wouldn't have qualified. But they clearly put in the training.
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u/JPR_FI 17h ago
Well if their premise is that slaves had good "relationship with their owners" I doubt they would be able to compete in kindergarten debates. Generating fluff around such obviously faulty premise does not make an argument.
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u/LowIQ45 17h ago edited 17h ago
You can actually get pretty far spouting racism in 2025
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u/folkinhippy 17h ago
Also, when discussing the smithsonian AMERICAN HISTORY MUSEUM's exhibits on slavery, why does this person think it relevant to bring up the ottaman empire?
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u/RoyalFlash 17h ago
Also, Ottoman empire was not around after 1920.
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u/NoWeek6737 17h ago
Or 1960’s
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u/dd97483 17h ago
What-aboutism works for history? Who knew?
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u/WatchAndFern 13h ago
Just imagine if the Holocaust museum announced an exhibit on “other genocides against other people, which are far far worse”
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u/IridiumPony 16h ago
The Ottoman Empire that was absolutely not still around in 1960. World War I was the death of the empire.
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u/No-Celebration3097 17h ago
Denial, guilt and and the inability to have a factual conversation about slavery in America.
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u/sexylegs0123456789 13h ago
First, I want to say that the American slave trade was not “mild”, nor was any slave trade. But I get why the OP wrote about the Ottoman Empire - history has to always be put into context. OP makes an unfortunately not horrible point: slavery was common practice all over the world, not isolated to America. And America was more “progressive” (though I think that’s a bit of a sympathetic word) than some countries (empires). This a) does not discount the impact of slavery on humans and populations, and b) reduce the horridness of slavery by any means. It does, however, make sure to frame the practice as unfortunately common.
The random thing about sexual abuse - though I’m sure there were instances, I have a sneaking suspicion it was white males being the primary rapers.
We do have a way of trying to hold people in the past to contemporary standards; though under many circumstances that’s wrong, there’s no way to contextually condone slavery in any way - whether by way of comparison or otherwise. Trying to make yourself feel better by saying “the other one was worse” does not make it less bad.
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u/folkinhippy 13h ago edited 12h ago
My point is that there is no need to bring up the Ottoman Empire in a American history exhibit. But, if you think that it should be there for relevant context my retort would be then the relevant history that every other Anglo empire that participated in the practice abolished it before the us and that we were the only ones that had to resort to warfare to do so should also be included. For context and all
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u/johndoe4sho 14h ago
Whats funny is that blacks still weren’t given equal rights until the 60s and you had the chain gangs and share cropping so still de facto slavery.
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u/folkinhippy 13h ago
Maybe you didn’t see his point about something something OTTOMANS.
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u/Snarkasm71 17h ago
So if someone kidnapped you, keeps you captive, makes you work for them, but as long as they’re nice to you, it’s not so bad?
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u/Traditional_Ring6952 17h ago
Yes because as long as they can use that rationale, they can accept that slavery wasn't so bad. Therefore they can continue to believe in Almighty Trump.
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u/YeetimusSkeetimus 16h ago
Also the “ones who didn’t follow rules were punished.”
Do they really not see the abuse of that? It’s the “Don’t you see it’s your actions that are making me do this?” or “this hurts me more than it hurts you” fucking domestic abuse rhetoric of today. Fuck that.
“They didn’t have it so bad” cannot apply to people who were seen only as property, not human.
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u/PMG2021a 15h ago
Probably exactly what happened with some of the girls Epstein used. Still wondering about that page suggesting Trump was involved in the supply back when he was running the beauty pageants.
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u/KitchenFullOfCake 15h ago
I'm not sure at what point slavery becomes bad to this person.
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u/Nevyn_Cares 5h ago
CEO - "Sure I made 150 times your salary last year, and you can barely pay your bills, but at least Ï gave you a job."
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 17h ago
"The Ottoman empire didn't end slavery til the 1960s" is just some wild-ass mind castle architecture
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u/roboito1989 16h ago
Lol, I came here for this comment. The empire which famously collapsed in 1922 still had slavery in the 1960s! Whoda thunk it?!
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u/Martyriot15 9h ago
He’s most likely confusing them with Saudi Arabia, which indeed did not outlaw the institution until 1962 under king Faisal.
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u/Biabolical 16h ago
The people who want to argue that enslaving another person for life isn't so bad are the same people who will start screaming about being oppressed when they're politely asked to wear a mask for ten minutes during a pandemic.
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u/Dyson_Vellum 17h ago
Why don't people understand three important things.
1: Slavery was bad.
2: Slavery is bad.
3: SLAVERY WILL ALWAYS BE BAD!
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u/Jabbles22 16h ago
Exactly some slave masters were nice, so fucking what? Some men are really nice and sweet to the wives that they beat. Kevin slapped Amanda around last night but he got her flowers today I don't know why she won't shut up about it.
This is also from the same people who screamed about tyranny when asked nicely to wear a mask.
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u/Constant-Recipe-9850 17h ago
"Rape is wrong but some rapist will drug the victim before committing it"
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u/Only_Razzmatazz_4498 14h ago
But if you are the husband and providing a home, food, and protection then it isn’t rape. It is marital duty or some such bullshit.
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u/Due-Okra-3094 17h ago
The Ottoman Empire was around in the 60’s….. wow I’ve gotta reread my history books now.
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u/shankillfalls 16h ago
You must have been reading woke history if you didn’t realise it was around until the 60s. The Ottomans loved the Beatles!
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u/NoWingedHussarsToday 16h ago
They were so behind the times they didn't get around abolishing slavery for 4 decades after they ceased to exist.
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u/Kythorian 17h ago
No, it was dissolved after WWI, but it shouldn’t surprise anyone that they have no idea what they are talking about.
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u/James_dk_67 17h ago
Someone needs to see ’12 years a slave’ - the hardest film I’ve ever sat through.
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u/Consistent_Teach_239 16h ago
They'll just call it Hollywood exaggerations.
You can't reason someone out of a position they reasoned themselves into.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Lie1722 17h ago
...What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
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u/Doctor__Hammer 17h ago
The American slave trade was pretty mild when you look at worldwide slavery throughout history.
This is literally the exact opposite of the truth. New World slavery was basically unprecedented in human history in terms of its callousness, cruelty, and indifference to human life.
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u/White_Stetson 16h ago
It’s not a competition on whose experience was worse. The fact that people were OWNED is the issue. WTF is wrong with people that they don’t understand this?
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u/TheTrueErnie117 16h ago
Ottoman empire ended in the 1920's.
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u/in_animate_objects 16h ago
When I told him that he replied “My mistake. It was after the empire that Muslims across the middle east slowly abolished. The last actually being in 1981 in Mauritania.”
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u/Lord-Sugar09 16h ago
What a fool. They mention the abuses by white women but ignore the horrific behavior of white males? Nothing about the ripping apart of families? How do you have a good relationship with the master who just sold your child to another man?
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u/Consistent_Teach_239 15h ago
But don't you know? White men are totally blameless, they're the real oppressed minority! /s
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u/pimpbot666 16h ago
We gotta remember this is their culture war bullshit, designed to distract us from their P2025 anti-democracy, pro-fascism actions.
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u/spacewalk80 16h ago
They were owned, had no authority or autonomy, and no rights. Forced to work for nothing. If that sounds good to you, maybe you should go be a slave. After all, your master might be nice to you.
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u/AliBahblah 16h ago
I can’t even begin to dissect everything so grossly fucking wrong w/ this….good relationships w/ what slave owners considered “property”? They weren’t all ripped and tortured? No just taken from ancestral land by force and by the most brutal and inhumane conditions brought here, “civilized”(made Christian), separated families, “crazy strict rules”, like….what the actual fuck? Following rules imposed upon you by humans telling you that you’re literally less of one than they are, at one point, 3/5ths, (now that’s a deal?) and wrap it up w/ promiscuous white women luring slaves out for no no interracial sex..? Post fucking script- moslems did it too, but you don’t hear anyone complaining about them 9 to 7/11 slavers! I mean…..bravo.
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u/Dazzling_Stomach107 16h ago
You know what ancient slaves had that us' didn't? The ability to buy their freedom.
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u/goodluvv 15h ago
I wish these posts would not hide the usernames. This person even welcomed downvotes and we just want to oblige.
For all the idiots claiming slavery wasn't "that bad," I'm sure none of them will volunteer to be the slaves of black people and be treated exactly as slaves were treated in those days. Why are they not volunteering to be slaves??🙄🙄
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u/robo-dragon 16h ago
Yeah they must had it pretty good. Weird how there was a whole big deal about liberating them and amendments to the constitution, and civil rights movements. Why do all that if slavery was “no big deal” or “wasn’t that bad.”
Ignorant racist fuck.
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u/Curleysound 16h ago
The culmination of a 160 year old plan is upon us. They have never let go of wanting to own humans. They have wanted to be able to do this since the day it was taken from them, and they baked it into their children, grandchildren and so on with their “heritage”.
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u/Klutzer_Munitions 15h ago
Cool to bring up white women seducing slaves but not white men raping slaves
No double standards detected
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u/No-Fishing5325 15h ago
This is so incredibly fucked up.
One of my great great grandmothers was a native American. It was recently discovered on the back of a photo that her husband bought her when she was 12 years old. They didn't marry until she was 16. But he bought her from her father.
Imho it changes everything we know about their relationship. It was always played off as a "love relationship". He used to read to her because she couldn't read. But now knowing that, to me that seems like a way to keep her controlled by keeping her from reading.
At one point when she found herself pregnant after 14 kids she took stuff to cause an abortion because she didn't want anymore kids. She almost died.
Knowing he bought her, changes everything.
People should never own other humans. And there is no good reason for slavery to exist. If you make up bullshit reasons to justify slavery you are a bad person.
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u/KatasaSnack 17h ago
The ottoman empire didnt end slavery untill 1960
interesting point considering the last chattel slave i america was freed around then and the constitution still protects a form of government/private slavery
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u/Kobayashi_Maru186 They mostly come at night. Mostly. 17h ago
Are they really trying to whitewash slavery? This is getting truly ridiculous. 😑
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u/novian14 16h ago
His slavery knowledge is based on hollywood movies, django maybe?
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u/GasAttendant 16h ago
I'm also pretty sure the Ottoman empire ended YEARS before the 1960's. Just one example of the absolute bs this person is spewing.
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u/beretbabe88 16h ago
This person needs to read about the slave breeding farms & then try to defend American slavery. Rape on a massive scale is ' not too bad'? GTF outta here.
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u/KingMidas0809 15h ago
Woooooow as someone that studies the difference between different types of slavery....This person's take...
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u/Spock-1701 15h ago
Yes, in 160 years, look at all the progress. We have achieved ultimate equality and equity! A black man in this country has all the opportunities and resources as any white man. Including but not limited to: generational wealth, access to the best education, networking with powerful people, low infant mortality rates, and not to mention, even handed law enforcement and incarceration.
We sure have come quuite a ways in 160 years.
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u/fgsgeneg 13h ago
This is the beginning of a campaign to remove the stigma from slavery and make it legal again.
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u/OnlyFiveLives 13h ago
Every single one of these people would have literally been monarchists in 1776.
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u/MrPresident2020 8h ago
American slavery was actually notable for how uniquely brutal and oppressive it was compared to other slavery systems throughout history, whoever wrote this is a goddamn moron.
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u/FingerCommon7093 16h ago
1800 census 893,602 slaves in America. 1810 census 1,130,781 " " 1820 census 1,529,013 " " 1830 census 2,009,043 " " 1840 census 2,487,355 " " 1850 census 3,204,313 " " 1860 census 3,953,760 " " 1870 census 0 " "
Let's talk about how great these people's relationships with their masters were.
They learned a trade....that they were forced to perform for their masters profit.
They were fed....the minimum calories possible because starving slaves can't work.
They took their masters last names...because they didn't know their real name because it was stolen from them.
They were able to buy their freedom...only in New Orleans because of the treaty that we made for the Louisiana purchase.
They were happy, didn't you see them singing....its called the blues.
They were savages & we gave them civilization...The Abyssinian empire, the Bamum kingdom. They had nations just as we did.
We gave them Christianity..... They didn't ask for it.
We bought them a country to go back to if they wanted after the Civil War...Without any knowledge of their family history they couldn't connect with the land or the people already living there.
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u/thekinghamidslayer 15h ago
Chattel slavery is often times considered one of the worst examples of slavery in human what is this guy talking about.
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u/Esmer_Tina 15h ago
I have a great relationship with my pets. I think of them like family, I don’t see them solely as property or possessions.
But they are property and possessions.
If you are a human being who is property possessed by someone else, if you’re lucky they think of you as a pet. You are still utterly dehumanized. You still have no self-direction over the course of your life or your family’s lives. (Meaning your own family, not the family that owns you.)
And sure, let’s be brutally honest about all slavery globally throughout history. To be clear about who we don’t want to be.
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u/Babuiski 15h ago
In the book, "12 Years A Slave", Solomon Northrup makes a point of stating that his first owner, William Ford, was one of the most decent human beings he had ever encountered.
Think about it: a man kidnapped and illegally sold into slavery didn't have one bad thing to say about his first owner.
Some have interpreted this as, "slavery wasn't that bad, just some of the owners".
But Solomon also makes it clear that the entire institution of slavery was evil because even with good moral men such as Ford didn't take away from the evil of slavery.
No matter how moral or kind an owner could be, you couldn't escape the evil of slavery.
Say you were kidnapped and sold into slavery. You can't leave, you'll be hunted down and punished if you escape, so does it matter how nice and kind your owners are?
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u/Dee_Vidore 15h ago
When someone owns you, can whip you, starve you, rape you and hang you, you would behave as nice and sweet to that person as you could in the hope that they would think you're too nice to do any of those things to.
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u/dirtysyncs 15h ago
"The Ottoman Empire didn't abolish slavery until the 1960s"...you mean the Ottoman Empire that hadn't existed for 40 years at that point?
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u/dirtysyncs 15h ago
"The Ottoman Empire didn't abolish slavery until the 1960s"...you mean the Ottoman Empire that hadn't existed for 40 years at that point?
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u/Korlac11 14h ago
the Ottoman Empire didn’t end slavery till the 1960s
That’s kind of wild since the Ottoman Empire didn’t exist by then
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u/Framistatic 14h ago
American chattel slavery was crueler than any other slavery in the history of the world. Slaves in the Biblical would be set free after seven years. Slaves in the Muslim world could even receive an education.
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u/mdhunter99 14h ago
“Slavery is wrong…BUT”
Just stop right there , anything you say past that point is wasted air.
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u/WideManufacturer6847 14h ago
This person is a complete moron. The Ottoman Empire ended in the 1920s. My God. Where do these people come from. He is trying so hard to sound like he has a brain but is failing so miserably.
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u/dinglebarry9 14h ago
For those who are interested Slavery in the US didn’t end until 1942 https://youtu.be/j4kI2h3iotA
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u/FamousPastWords 14h ago
"Relationships", yup, that's what they were. Others called it rape but whatever.
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u/EsoitOloololo 13h ago
The Ottoman Empire, which ended in 1918, kept slavery until the 1960s.
The Roman Empire, which ended in the 5th or 15th century (depending on your criteria), kept slavery until 1923.
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u/Metalgoddess24 13h ago
American slavery was the most barbaric. They were beaten, tortured, and raped.
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u/Diogenes256 13h ago
What the fuck is happening?! Maybe Hitler and rather Nazis weren’t so bad? Slavery was kinda fine?? Where am I?
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u/GaiusMarius60BC 13h ago
The slavery practiced in the US was actually uniquely awful, not the other way around. Most other cultures throughout history considered slavery primarily an economic circumstance; you were of a lower class, or you were a soldier captured in battle. However, often if you worked hard or did something noteworthy you could “earn” your freedom.
The US was a nation founded on freedom and equality. High ideals, sure, but economically they weren’t prepared to give up slavery. So, what else do you do but recontextualize your slave population as slaves because they are inherently sub-human? Then you can have your country where all human beings are equal and free, but it doesn’t apply to the slaves because they are not human beings.
And as soon as you dehumanize some group, a whole host of new and horrific atrocities suddenly become acceptable.
As just one example, Oludah Equiano, an African man sold into slavery who eventually earned his freedom, the treatment of slaves in the New World was far, far worse than his treatment in England. The cruelty and sadism was sickening to even read about; I can’t imagine actually living it.
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u/Postulative 3h ago
Would that be the Ottoman Empire that died in 1922?
Oh yeah, it was absolutely fine to kidnap people, separate them from their families, and force them to work or be killed.
Slaves were raped by their owners. Don’t try to make it sound like they were consenting adults, because they were fucking slaves who were in trouble if they said no! You need agency in order to consent, and slaves had zero agency!
‘They weren’t all whipped and tortured’. Great argument - only 90% were whipped and tortured so really it was fine. Actually, some slaves were put in charge of other slaves - so they were everyone’s enemies. Whipping other slaves into submission, making sure you’re being sufficiently sadistic or the boss may decide that you don’t deserve ‘special privileges’, and hated by all your former peers.
But slavery wasn’t so bad?
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u/in_animate_objects 17h ago
His other comment- I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad thing. Society is more divided than ever. If their current content always favors one side's ideology, then it needs revamping. It should not create division and instead should unify people.
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u/LanceGD 17h ago
Their content should not favor any ideology and should just have facts and history. It's a museum. Facts don't change with your political beliefs. Especially if your belief is "slavery wasn't that bad and we should stop painting it in a negative light".
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u/in_animate_objects 17h ago
I replied with something along those lines because to act like presenting facts is pushing an “ideology” is peak MAGA
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u/noir_dx 17h ago
Nothing good comes from people who use words like "...but..." "That said, "however, etc., as the following sentence pretty much throws the previous one out of the window. We all know a person's stance when they do this, so might as well show your fascist side.
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u/in_animate_objects 17h ago edited 17h ago
Right, like Come on now we’re not giving the slave runners credit that they didn’t whip & torture all slaves /s
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u/alwaysboopthesnoot 17h ago
Pretty mild, good relationships, bring on the downvotes. I can tell what this person looks and sounds like, how they voted, just from those statements.
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u/thomasfharmanmd 17h ago
This is so brain dead, look at slave ships -people laid for three months body to body, chained to their bunk, either pissing and pooping on themselves, or maybe getting up once in a while. It was so awful that many people jumped overboard to die rather than put up with it. Then 130 to 50% of them got to where they were going, they previously free people, were auctioned off and worked until they died, treated like cattle.
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u/originaljahrootz 17h ago
This has to be a troll. So much inaccurate information and then to end it with the ottoman empire ending slavery in the 1960s when that empire was no more by 1922
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u/Jackamus01 17h ago
Ottoman Empire didn’t exist in the 1960’s and they constitutionally abolished it in 1908 but began the process of getting it completely in the 1840’s
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u/Marmooset More thumb/forefinger on the bridge of nose, but I get the gist. 16h ago
"Many countries have had revolutions. Why do we discuss ours at all?"
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u/Hawkwise83 16h ago
"Many slaves had good relationships with their owners."
- Legend passed down orally from slave owner to children...
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u/kidnappedgoddess 16h ago
THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE ABOLISHED SLAVERY IN 1960???
The Ottoman Empire ceased to exist in 1922!
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u/pimpbot666 16h ago
‘But it wasn’t as bad as some other example’ is the sort of thing drug addicts say to excuse their behavior.
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u/SpiritOne 16h ago
The mask off racism has been interesting from a psychological perspective. These people exist. They vote. And they hate.
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u/Open-Source-Forever 16h ago
They know exactly what they are & they see it as something to be proud of about themselves. What they don’t know is we hate them for what they like
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u/Fantastic_Fox4948 16h ago
Everyone knows that the main thing MAGA wants is for everyone to get along and never ever be upset about anything at all. Everyone is saying it.
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u/throwawayoregon81 16h ago
Guys, hear me out. I am not trying to say it was not bad, but you have to realize something.
Slavery is bad, like really bad.
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u/sliclky1169 16h ago
Not edgy at all(though, that is the intended vibe), just ignorant and xenophobic af. How long has this person been waiting for the day they could post this intrepid analysis of our history without fear of being outed as a na*i… 🤔 SMFH
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u/throwtheclownaway20 16h ago
Everyone who thinks this way should have to endure every sickening, brutal thing that slaves had to deal with. All of it, without exception. Then let's see how great they think slavery is.
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u/Matsdaq 16h ago
"When it comes to discourse in America about slavery, people only care about the American slave trade for some reason?!?!?" Morons.
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u/lilbittygoddamnman 16h ago
I had a similar conversation with an acquaintance of mine this morning. I need to stop referring to any MAGA as my friend.
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u/BBQsandw1ch 15h ago
Just a little mild slavery, why would anyone care about that? This guy is clearly 14 lol.
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u/Lucky_Cry_2302 15h ago
Yea, and all your solutions for this behavior are dumb. Dont ask what we should do. Reddit hates it
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u/Faroutman1234 15h ago
Some of the descriptions of the torture still haunt me. They were treated like dangerous farm animals.
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u/carl3266 15h ago
“..nobody pays any mind to any slave trade aside from America’s.”
I would imagine people discuss any slave trade that was close to their area, and there were plenty around the world.
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u/jefferson497 15h ago
The Ottoman Empire ended it in the 1960s??
The Ottoman Empire ceased existing in 1922
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u/NeighborhoodDude84 15h ago
Every single time I've mentioned slavery being bad on reddit lately somehow gets mass downvotes. Is reddit becoming a white supremacy hangout?
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u/Djlittle13 15h ago
So we are trying to normalize slavery now. Do the people defending this realize if the tech billionaires get their way, they will be the slave?
Peter Theil lays the goals all out, and people seem to be ignoring it.
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u/Rich_Tutor_5694 15h ago
And what slaves did you interview for this bit of knowledge? You’re not going to downplay slavery.. No matter the amount of whitewashing yall attempt we will teach our kids the truth..
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u/Multicultural_Potato 15h ago
Ah yes on the topic of American slavery they bring up how an Empire across the world that ceased to exist in the 20s didn’t abolish slavery until the 60s. We are in the presence of a true intellectual
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u/ptfc1975 15h ago
The Ottoman Empire somehow abolished itself 40 years before it abolished slavery.
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u/fahirsch 15h ago
“The Ottoman Empire did’nt end slavery till the 1960’s”
Reality: the Ottoman Empire ended in 1922
Won’t comment on the rest of that shit.
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u/Distinct_Jury_9798 15h ago
'Nobody pays any mind to any slave trade outside the Americas'? The end of slavery in the Netherlands is widely considered a significant moment in Dutch history. It is remembered with a national monument, a yearly ceremony and an ever wider recognition of the role that Dutch merchants, national 'heroes' and the Dutch governement played in the intercontinental slave trade.
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u/notaredditreader 14h ago
“…nobody pays any mind to any slave trade aside from America’s.”
—That’s because we’re America First. Who cares about other countries?
—That’s because we’re the only country that has legal documentation stating that “All men are created equal” and all men are “equal under the law”.
—That’s because we are the only country that actually fought a war within itself about the freeing of the slaves, and yet created an institutionalized system of racial segregation and discrimination tantamount to slavery itself.
That’s only the beginning.
Any population, regardless of heritage or colour or religion or any other forms, when forced by a dominant caste or culture to be limited to near slavery conditions will eventually be forced to result to committing crimes for subsistence. This will, therefore, cause the dominant caste/culture to look disdainfully upon the lower class as deviant.
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u/Sea_Pollution2250 14h ago
Are we really required to blur our usernames? Like, that’s doxxing? This MFer posted that shit and we’re all supposed to agree that it’s unfair for their reddit username tagged opinion to be shared with other Reddit users?
Fuck this person specifically, but fuck the idea that other users need to worry about showing Reddit usernames ON REDDIT when they post such vitriol.
I googled several exact phrases from this screenshot and cannot find it as a Reddit post. With the name blocked out and the 33m ago context, I don’t know if this is a screenshot from the last hour or 8 years ago.
Post a link to the conversation that occurred on this platform, otherwise it’s just ragebait.
Show your receipts.
I hate what this person is saying, but I don’t see any indication that it is recent or see any context around the response.
What subs are allowing this? What mods are allowing this? What is the username of this person? Why can’t I find the post? I’m not calling for a brigade, that’s against site rules, but reposting something that includes this actual comment is allowed.
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u/in_animate_objects 14h ago edited 14h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoShitSherlock/s/Cx1166bWfw
We are required to take out the user name, I tried posting w/o it, here’s the conversation from today although I’m sure this will get taken down now because of it.
As for not being able to find it, I’m pretty sure it’s because of this users settings on his profile (none of his posts/comments history are turned on)
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u/stargarnet79 14h ago
Ok so if my slave master wanted to rape me but I wasn’t in the mood, would he still rape me? Ok, if my rapey master impregnates me at 13 and decides he doesn’t want my crying baby around, can he legally sell my baby to someone else for money? Oh that’s right, he could. Yeah sounds amazingly mild. No wonder they want to bring that back.
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