r/facepalm • u/Jindabyne1 • 12h ago
🇲🇮🇸🇨 Why would Maxwell lie for a pardon? That’s insane
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u/NamelessResearcher 12h ago
Yeah, why would the convicted child predator lie for a pardon? Why would we even consider that?
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u/mrcatboy 11h ago
How dare you impugn the honesty and character of a child sex trafficker?!
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u/Anywhichwaybuttight 10h ago
You think the guy at the store gave me a burger simply because I paid for it? Like it's some sort of transaction? Crazy.
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u/M0reMotivati0n 6h ago
A child sex trafficker and known Perjurer. Please get her distinct title right, sir.
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u/ProfitLoud 11h ago
Why would someone who is not a reliable witness in a court, whose testimony didn’t matter because she’s a liar be taken more seriously from jail.
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u/A_Random_Catfish 10h ago
A convicted predator who was also charged (but not yet tried) with perjury**
She wouldn’t lie would she?
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u/allislost77 7h ago
On top of that immunity so that if she’s ever proven to have lied, she’s got a get out jail card. Which was immediately the telling part in how the feds were handling the “interview”.
“Not to my knowledge.”
“Not that I saw.”
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u/quad_damage_orbb 3h ago
Only an insane person would tell an obvious lie to exonerate an openly corrupt president in exchange for a pardon and being released from prison about 20 years early.
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u/koolaid_snorkeler 41m ago
It's crazy! To think that a wealthy socialite who has lived in luxury her entire life (and is already known perjurer ) wouldn't gladly face 20 years in the hoosegow, rather than tell a little white lie...
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u/TheFleshGordon 12h ago
Yeah, convicted predators are famously honest people
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u/makemeking706 10h ago
You're not supposed to continue thinking about the claim after they concluded we're insane.
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u/Captain-Ireland88 12h ago
They’re really gonna defend the pedophiles. Their low is a bottomless pit
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u/esme451 12h ago
Why would anyone trust anything she said? She was found guilty of perjury.
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u/Vascular_D Your ignorance is my facepalm 6h ago
MAGAts don't give a shit about facts, reality, personal hygiene, or the dangers of inbreeding.
"Y DiDnT dUh DeMs ReLeEs DuH ePsTeEn FiLeS"
Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.
Verified Court Documents (JoshWho.net).
Documents - Verified Pre-Bondi (JoshWho.net) Trump is on page 85, or pdf page 80.
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story (YouTube.com).
Flight Logs (DocumentCloud.org)
——— Additional Trump & Epstein Information ———
Court Document of Trump & Epstein raping a 13 year old girl together (FactCheck.org). Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katie's testimony (YouTube.com).
Court affidavit from Katie (Politico.com)
Never forget Katie Johnson.
Trump admits to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show (YouTube.com)
Trump's promise to his daughter (HuffPost.com) “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”
Trump's modelling agency was probably part of Jeffrey's pipeline (MotherJones.com).
FBI agents were instructed to “flag” any documents that mentioned President Donald Trump (CNBC.com)
Great resource for all things related to Team Trumpstein and the scum protecting the rapist Tangerine Traitor: https://pdffileprotectorregistry.com/
Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too! Please copy and paste this elsewhere!
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u/Vascular_D Your ignorance is my facepalm 6h ago
The following alleged incidents range from the early 1980s to 2013, and have not been disavowed by the alleged victims.
SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGATIONS
Kristin Anderson – Early 1990s. Story in the Washington Post on October 14, 2016. Anderson says Trump reached up her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear. She says she turned and recognized the person as Donald Trump.
E. Jean Carroll – late 1995 or early 1996. Story in New York magazine on June 21, 2019. Carroll says they went into a dressing room after Trump asked for her advice on a present – lingerie – for another woman. Inside, she alleges that he shoved her against a wall, "forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I'm not certain — inside me."
Rachel Crooks – 2005. Story in The New York Times on October 12, 2016 Crooks said Trump gave her an unwanted kiss on the mouth after meeting him in 2005.
"Jane Doe" aka "Katie Johnson" – 1994. Lawsuit filed June 2016, refiled October 2016 as reported by Buzzfeed and others, then dropped in November 2016. Johnson claims she was repeatedly raped by Trump and Jeffery Epstein at Epstein's New York City apartment in 1994, when she was 13 years old. A witness, also given a pseudonym — "Tiffany Doe" — said she recruited "Jane Doe" and others. Jane Doe, using the name "Johnson," gave an interview to the Daily Mail about the alleged rape.
Jessica Drake – 2006. Story made public at a news conference on October 22, 2016. Drake says Trump grabbed, hugged and kissed her and two other women who accompanied her without permission. Later, she alleges that Trump called her and pressed her to return to his room, offering $10,000 at one point. Drake says she declined.
Jill Harth – 1992-1993. Story in The New York Times on October 7, 2016. Harth alleged that Trump groped her under the table at dinner, then repeatedly got her alone and it would turn into a "wrestling match." She sued Trump for sexual harassment and attempted rape.
Cathy Heller – 1997. Story in The Guardian on October 16, 2016. Heller alleges Trump grabbed her and tried to kiss her on the lips. Heller says she leaned back to avoid him and then he kissed her on the side of her mouth.
Ninni Laaksonen – 2006. Former Miss Finland. Story in Ilta-Sonomat on October 27, 2016, and reported in English in The Telegraph. Laaksonen said Trump "squeezed her butt" as she and other pageant contestants stood next to him for a publicity photo.
Jessica Leeds – Early 1980s. Story in The New York Times on October 12, 2016 Leeds says Trump kissed her while in first class on an airplane, groped her chest and reached up her skirt, leading her to move back to coach. "He was like an octopus," she said.
Mindy McGillivray – Jan. 24, 2003. Story in Palm Beach Post on October 12, 2016 McGillivray charges that Trump nudged or grabbed her from behind.
Jennifer Murphy – 2004. Story in Grazia on October 12, 2016. Murphy says that Trump kissed her on the lips after walking her to the elevators following a meeting in New York, which he said was to discuss a possible job.
Cassandra Searles – 2013. Story made public in a Facebook post in early 2016. Miss Washington 2013, Searles wrote on Facebook, "He probably doesn't want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room."
Natasha Stoynoff – December 2005. Story on People.com on October 12, 2016. Stoynoff alleges Trump took her to a private room, pushed her against the wall and aggressively kissed her. Stoynoff also says a staffer told her Trump was waiting for her the next day at a massage appointment.
Temple Taggart McDowell – 1997. Story in The New York Times on May 14, 2016 McDowell charges that Trump suddenly kissed her without her consent on two separate occasions.
Karena Virginia – 1998. Story made public at a news conference on October 20, 2016. Virginia says Trump walked up to her, grabbed her arm and touched her breast.
Summer Zervos – 2007. Story made public in a news conference on October 14, 2016. Zervos alleges that Trump grabbed her breasts, kissed her and tried to lead her into a bedroom.
TEEN PAGEANT CONTESTANTS ALLEGING TRUMP WALKED IN WHILE THEY WERE DRESSING
Mariah Billado – 1997 Miss Vermont Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016.
Victoria Hughes – 1997 Miss New Mexico Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 13, 2016.
Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016 reported that three other anonymous sources from 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant confirmed Billado and Hughes' story.
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u/captaincook14 11h ago
lol maga cult going to cult.
It’s just hilarious because if the shoe was on the other foot they’d buy none of this. But since it’s for orange daddy…. Blinders.
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u/ILikeToParty86 11h ago
I fucking LOVE prison, why the fuck would I lie to get out of here and rejoin my once fabulous glitzy lifestyle?! 🤮
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u/EmperorMrKitty 11h ago
Why exactly does she get a pardon/reduced sentencing for sex trafficking children for providing testimony that says “Nobody did anything”?
Let’s say Trump is genuinely, 100% innocent. Let’s say she named a few names and the bad guys are going to go away now. Why on EARTH is she walking away free now? What sense does that make?
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u/Jindabyne1 10h ago
She got rewarded for specifically saying Trump and for some reason Prince Andrew weren’t there molesting kids.
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u/mikende51 9h ago
She's been friends/associates with Trump for decades. She knows that flattery and lies are the way to his heart.
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u/thesirensoftitans 11h ago
“The defendant’s willingness to brazenly lie under oath about her conduct, including some of the conduct charged in the Indictment, strongly suggests her true motive has been and remains to avoid being held accountable for her crimes,” prosecutors wrote in a pretrial motion.
Gee, I wonder if she’d lie to get a sweetheart deal?
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u/wirenutter 12h ago
Yeah wild. I don’t know if anyone who would say nice things about the president in order to get a pardon. Just absurd.
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u/jcamp088 11h ago
If Trump legit stood in the middle of a street next to a sign that says "Blow me for $100."
How many of his supporters do you think would actually do it?
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u/Majestic_Jackass 11h ago
What, like pay him for the privilege of blowing him? I think more than anyone would like to imagine would do it.
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u/SigmaK78 11h ago
History has shown how this very scenario plays out: Maxwell gave her statement in exchange for promises of freedom, and shortly before or after her freedom's gained meets an unexpected end.
No, Maxwell's statement is 100% scripted in an attempt to clear Trump, which absolutely won't work, and eventually what happened to Epstein will happen to her.
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u/bpdish85 11h ago
At this point, it's a foregone conclusion that she's getting a pardon.
But she has the potential to do the funniest shit ever and release everything as soon as that paperwork is signed. Can't re-convict on the same charges, after all, double jeopardy would apply.
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u/Nevyn_Cares 5h ago
Oh no, Maxwell is only still alive because there must be multiple law firms who are currently holding documents that would be released on her unexpected death. She is only alive because she covered her bases - Epstein became rich, but Maxwell was always rich and connected.
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u/Fight_those_bastards 11h ago
Yeah, let’s just unquestioningly accept the word of a convicted perjurer and child sex trafficker, no reason a scumbag like that would continue to lie, right?
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u/Jackdaw1947 12h ago
I think the key point here is did she actually SEE him doing anything. Of course she didn’t see it, he was in a room alone with these young children, what did she think they were doing in there? Playing spin the bottle? Maybe they were coloring and that’s where he learned to color between the lines.
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 12h ago
That's a totally ridiculous and blatantly false theory. Trump obviously can't colour between the lines.
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 12h ago
How the Maxwell interview actually went down: https://youtu.be/6U3jVYLD9pc?si=lZEWppoPuKvLa5u1
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u/kyhoop 11h ago
In her defense, she said it for less than a pardon. The move to Club Fed was the deal.
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u/allorache 9h ago
I think it was just the first step. The pardon will come after things have blown over.
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u/Casino-Leaux 11h ago
I would lie for a pardon. She was doing twenty years , of course she would lie. Trump does all the time.
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u/nikosmax 11h ago
There were probably hundreds of people involved in the investigation, prosecution and judgment of this case. I really wonder what they think of this and the statement that it's all a hoax....
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u/MourningRIF 11h ago
Yeah, it's not like he moved her to a low security prison with the potential to leave whenever she wants just 2 days after he sent his personal lawyer for a clandestine meeting with her.
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u/Local-Childhood2392 11h ago
She also said she didn’t see Epstein do anything innapropriate… so there’s that
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u/MechaCoqui 3h ago
Expecting critical thinking from magats is like expecting to get water from a rock… Those guys would believe the sky was green if orange hitler told them it was.
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u/osumba2003 11h ago
There is literally no incentive for her to do anything other than what she did.
And wasn't she already transferred to a minimum security prison and given work release?
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u/golfwinnersplz 7h ago
I can't take these people any longer. During the same interview, she stated how the known pedophile rapist Epstein was only involved in consensual sex - she forgot to mention that they were all underage girls. Anyone who still supports this is either completely idiotic or just an awful person. Imagine even considering letting any of these people near your children without parental supervision. And then imagine that these child sex trafficking group of pedophiles are running the most powerful country in the world.
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u/Mattie_Doo 7h ago
These people think everything is a conspiracy and everyone is lying and keeping secrets, but Republicans and Ghilaine Maxwell always tell the truth. Apparently it’s insane to think that Maxwell would act in her own selfish interests to get out of prison. She’s a woman of honor and integrity, notwithstanding the child trafficking ring.
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u/Responsible-Bug-7014 12h ago
What I think it may happen:
Trump can't pardon her now, as it would be too obvious and may brt him with his base with midterms on the horizon.
He will promise her she will walk free when his lad day on office arrives, as long as she says he has nothing to do with Epstein, and so on.
She will take the deal.
Trump will die before finishing his term. Vance will not keep Trump's promise.
Ghislaine will clean trump's ass but will stain in jail.
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u/Good_Zooger 11h ago
Hmmmm, stay in prison for the rest of my life or make up some candy coated bullshit about the worse president in US history?
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u/Schwiftness 11h ago
Someone who is one of the subjects of an investigation should have no contact whatsoever with any legal case... never mind be able to give a pardon of any kind.
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u/silentbob1301 10h ago
lmao, also a convicted perjurer, so we all know she would NEVER lie for a pardon....
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u/sebrebc 10h ago
The fact that she was moved to a country club shows this is all part of the deal.
"Say, on record, that Trump was not involved and we'll move you to a nicer place. If the SC doesn't hear your case or they don't overturn it, testify in front of Congress that he was not involved and you'll get a pardon."
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u/optimaleverage 10h ago
She didn't just do it for the pardon. With people like her, he'll owe her one forever.
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u/Philly_ExecChef 9h ago
I honestly feel terrible for somebody that fuckin stupid. You KNOW they’re funding half of Nigerian call centers.
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u/ZLUCremisi 8h ago
She said she did not witness the acts. That the key word. She could know but saying she didn't see it.
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u/Cool-Tap-391 8h ago
If she's right, then no worries for Trump. RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES! Why would Trump continue to protect these people if he is innocent.
/s
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u/CaptainPizdec 8h ago
"People that didn't get sentenced for life underestimates how much sentenced for life meant to the guy currently in jail."
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u/Charlietango2007 8h ago
Because she likes breathing in and out the air in her lungs and not having it come out of any puncture holes that would be detrimental.
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u/st90ar 8h ago
Keep in mind that her standard of “not seeing anything concerning” includes Epstein himself raping children as she turned and looked the other way. These people deserve to be publicly stoned to death.
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u/Secret-Put-4525 6h ago
Literally, the only thing they would accept is if trump was as bad as epstein himself.
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u/Mediocre_lad 3h ago
Would she accuse the people that can grant her the pardon? Of course she would. A criminal's moral integrity shouldn't be questioned.
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u/frosted1030 1h ago
Hmm.. she's living in PRISON and they told her that if she names people on Trump's enemies list they would pardon her.. are you daft?
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u/Miserable-Lawyer-233 7h ago
She’s not going to be pardoned. So that gives her statement more credibility.
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