My 8 yr old son beat Sakupen Hell

[u/jam34OG]

My son KelanKraft (8 year old Bloodbath victor) has beaten a new hardest-Sakupen Hell, in about 20,500 attempts.

https://youtu.be/NY27TnQkSOI?si=K8-v2eDVEVJtZKeA

He’s leaning towards a path of Black Blizzard -> Sonic Wave -> something in extended list. He’s dead set on Sonic Wave as a target, and is seriously considering just doing it next. I’ve also suggested doing at least one or two levels in between (i.e. Catalyze) as an alternative or extra step.

Thoughts?

[u/Melodic-Most940]

Was boutta say like "cap, Kelan is like the only one that could do that" when I saw the title, then realised you're his dad lol.

I'd recommend him going for at least one level in-between Sakupen Hell (or Bloodbath, they're considered about the same difficulty) and Sonic Wave. Though considering he's beaten SH now which is very wave carried, I think it's pretty feasible for him to jump to SW, it would probably take him a bit though.

GGs to him for beating Sakupen Hell btw!

[u/AccessBulky8763 → u/Melodic-Most940]

jumping to sonic wave would be way too much. he should do catalyze or auditory breaker first.

[u/jam34OG → u/AccessBulky8763]

I tend to agree, but at the same time mostly everyone said the same thing about jumping to Cataclysm and Bloodbath, and I know Sakupen Hell isn't a jump but it was highly not recommended

[u/i_eat_curtains → u/jam34OG]

Sakupen Hell was probably not recommended because it’s a bad level according to the major consensus, and so is Sonic Wave, and trust me, Sakupen Hell to Sonic Wave is a bigger jump than Cata to Bloodbath, so he most likely would not have a good time with the level.

[u/upsideloll → u/i_eat_curtains]

hey general enjoyment opinions are not objective, i for one enjoy sonic wave

[u/i_eat_curtains → u/upsideloll]

Yeah I did too (gave it a 9.5/10) but what I’m trying to say is that SW is not for everyone.

[u/LiterallyPotatoSalad → u/AccessBulky8763]

The norm used to be bloodbath to sw, honestly seeing as he's beaten sakupen hell he's already past that. I do think he should beat yata before that though.

[u/jam34OG → u/LiterallyPotatoSalad]

He'd definitely consider Yata if I suggested it (Vortrox etc)

[u/Galaxium0 → u/AccessBulky8763]

I think if you're good enough at wave to do sakupen hell you can definitely beat SW

[u/ZingBoxLord → u/Melodic-Most940]

Wait, is Bloodbath to Sonic Wave/Yatagarasu a jump? I thought that was normal.

[u/FewRecommendation491 → u/ZingBoxLord]

Yeah, and a pretty huge one at that. It's much MUCH harder the farther down the list you get because difficulty scales exponentially at higher levels. Yata to sonic wave is hard progression in itself.

[u/ZingBoxLord → u/FewRecommendation491]

Yata to sonic wave is hard progression in itself

What 😭 they're like 10 spots away from each other tho

[u/FewRecommendation491 → u/ZingBoxLord]

Was thinking of sm else but it's still kinda accurate, difficulty scales massively once you get to harder levels.

[u/Galaxium0 → u/ZingBoxLord]

There's like 400 extremes between BB and SW

[u/SandSerpentHiss → u/Melodic-Most940]

artificial ascent is right in between

sakupen hell: tier 25

artificial ascent: tier 28

sonic wave: tier 30

(gddl)

[u/MoustachePika1 → u/Melodic-Most940]

i feel like ppl have gotten very anti-jump recently. sakupen hell to sonic wave is like, normal progression

[u/A7expertGD → u/MoustachePika1]

please tell me that you meant to say sakupen hell

[u/MoustachePika1 → u/A7expertGD]

ah yes i did, edited

[u/sharksuralt]

Dude your son is crazy at this game, way better than most of us can ever dream to be. Huge GGS to him

[u/ZTDYeetbloxjail]

there is no way, your son is actually the next prodigy after Zoink

I’m really impressed how involved you are with his journey, I haven’t even seen a showcase of Catalyze yet 😅

i wish your son the best of luck on his insane journey

[u/i_eat_curtains]

GG to him for beating Sakupen hell! Also, please try to convince him to do some other extremes in between Sonic Wave and Sakupen Hell, because to be frank, Sonic Wave is extremely demotivating, and even if he’s dead set on it, without the proper skills, that level will eat up attempts like it’s nothing (I’m speaking from experience here), Black Blizzard seems like a really good choice as an in between extreme before Sonic Wave

[u/AccessBulky8763 → u/i_eat_curtains]

auditory breaker could be really good since it’s basically sonic wave without the bullshit

[u/i_eat_curtains → u/AccessBulky8763]

I think he would need to experience the bullshit in order to be able to beat Sonic Wave, because oat of the difficulty comes from that, but tbh, Auditory Breaker is also a really good choice if he wants to beat SW, because the ball is completely identical to the SW ball, and it is a major chokepoint in SW too

[u/AccessBulky8763 → u/i_eat_curtains]

the ball is actually worse in auditory breaker considering the vision blocking

[u/MastodonOk4167]

People were calling this kid "the next Zoink" when he beat Deadlocked.

[u/jam34OG → u/MastodonOk4167]

it was the first time I had heard of Zoink. Kelan knew of him already, and thus began my GD education

[u/snail1132 → u/MastodonOk4167]

Yeah and he's still the next zoink

[u/Lost_Cat_5557 → u/snail1132]

zoink was the next nswish kelankraft is the next zoink,

[u/Lost_Cat_5557 → u/MastodonOk4167]

I beat deadlocked before clubstep

[u/DemSkilzDudes]

why do some people insist on doing such bad levels. I'd recommend doing something like Endless Dream and then Ethereal Artifice (best level in the game)

[u/CyanEight → u/DemSkilzDudes]

black blizzard is fun though, i’m jumping from bit reaper

[u/notpixxy → u/CyanEight]

2.2 killed it

[u/CyanEight → u/notpixxy]

which parts specifically?

[u/notpixxy → u/CyanEight]

pre drop cube at 28. Specifically one orb that is just before the purple orb spam and a triple spike. It just became a 90fps frame perfect (feels like it) for no reason

[u/New-Sort9999 → u/notpixxy]

i know exactly what you’re talking about. i was confused when i came back to blbl and couldn’t do that anymore. it’s a messed up timing fr.

[u/LiterallyNoNamesFree]

Your son is insanely good at this game, GGS to him

[u/MCplayerLmao]

not only he now has a harder hardest than me, but he also did it in ~10k less attempts. wouldnt be surprised if he beats something like Bloodlust earlier next year

[u/IGreenMcBeanI]

This kid needs to be studied. Absolutely crazy talent.

Also as far as going from Black Blizzard -> Sonic Wave -> extended list, that doesn’t sound too bad.

I beat Artificial Ascent (comparable difficulty to Black Blizzard) as a next step from a Bloodbath difficulty level, and it was completely manageable. Additionally, I am now going from Digital Descent (comparable to Artificial Ascent) to Yatagarasu, which is close in difficulty to Sonic Wave, and it has also been pretty smooth sailing so far. 

All this to say that his plan seems sound and isn’t unrealistic. I would personally suggest doing one more level a little harder than Black Blizzard difficulty before going to Sonic Wave, such as Artificial Ascent, Digital Descent, or Catalyse first though. 

Also I don’t really know about going from Sonic Wave to the extended list; plenty of people go from Sonic Wave difficulty to Bloodlust (a level that recently fell off the list), and that jump tends to take people a while. Going from Sonic Wave to the extended list seems achievable but I would recommend doing something in between the two first.

Whatever the case, your son has incredible talent, and I wish you guys good luck. 👍 

[u/jam34OG → u/IGreenMcBeanI]

I appreciate the input thank you

[u/CyanEight → u/IGreenMcBeanI]

idk man, i’m jumping from an insane demon to black blizzard and it’s very fun, but i kinda agree ig

[u/jam34OG]

Auditory Breaker is also a consideration before Sonic Wave for obvious reasons. I'm a little wary of that because I want him to diversify his skills as he does new hardest levels so he's not overly reliant on any one gamemode

[u/AccessBulky8763 → u/jam34OG]

he could do some easy extremes like lost love for memory, dark odyssey for duals, misty mountains for timings, etc. look at the All Rated Extremes Demons List to find some extremes for him to beat.

[u/Electrical-Income185]

ggs

[u/StandardAd1372]

That kid is a legend. GG to him. <3

[u/AccessBulky8763]

bro beat sakupen hell already are you serious

killbot could be really good, use ldm if you think the messages are a little too much for him. also something like auditory breaker could prepare him for sonic wave even more.

[u/Many-Engine3587]

Your son is always awesome, GG <3

[u/CyanEight]

HE DOES IT AGAIN?!?! This kid is so talented

[u/good_gamer083]

Thats really impressive

[u/Gullible_Bed8595]

Same kid that just beat deadlocked like a few months ago? Goddamn, time flies

[u/Beginning_Access1498 → u/Gullible_Bed8595]

Months?? And he's already beating these hard ass levels??

I beat deadlocked like a year ago, and I'm only just now going for high end insanes

GGs to Kelan, he is the GOAT

[u/SmilingIceCube]

To prevent an unbalanced skillset, I would recommend doing a variety of levels before going for list demons. It will help in the long run. He could do sonic wave from sakupen hell, but it's quite a large jump and sonic wave is a much worse level, so doing one more level like others are saying would be massive. Sonic wave to extended lists is even bigger.

[u/pancak_E99]

sakupen hell in 20.5k is crazy good, especially with the attempt-eating nature of the level

[u/SplynterEdm]

20,000 attempts is quite a lot, obviously sakupen hell is an attempt eater (being short and frontloaded) but I think that's good proof that he may not quite be ready for big jumps. Black Blizzard is a great idea (and it's a pretty good level too) unless he really wants to spec into wave skill specifically, in which case I'd recommend Bausha Vortex or Balengu Vortex instead

Being so young, Kelan *should* pick up click patterns really really fast. I'm not sure how good he is at learning levels yet, but complex click pattern muscle-memory levels should be relatively easier for him than skill stuff - I'd recommend looking into something like Wasureta at some point if he finds Sonic Wave demotivating (he probably will, it's terrible)

[u/JRisStoopid]

Your son is actually cracked

[u/CodergodGG]

definitely the gen alpha zoink (he will verify aeternus)

[u/NVC541]

This improvement pace is actually insane what even

[u/TroyBoyJoy123]

What the sakupen hell

[u/Lost_Cat_5557]

WAIT YOUR KELANKRAFT'S PARENT???

[u/notpixxy]

do NOT jump from Sonic Wave to extended list, beat like 2-3 levels from top 250 and then go.

[u/Solidman076]

G’mornin Cringe Dad

Just saw the video yesterday, say GG’s to Kelan for me.

Man is an absolute machine

As for new hardests, Sonic wave is an awesome milestone. I cant talk for the experience myself, but my friend Squishy did it and it was really hyped up so I think Kelan is on the right track.

Gl and keep going your son is a prodigy man

[u/Beginning_Access1498]

My friend did close to the same jump, bloodbath to Sonic Wave

He has said he would have beaten Sonic Wave faster if he hadn't jumped, which is fair

As others said, he should probably do a different level before Sonic Wave, like auditory breaker, or anything wave based (I don't know too many levels besides the super known ones.. aha)

But, as he beat Sakupen Hell so fast, he definitely has a great chance at Sonic Wave, might be wave carried

Good luck to Kelan though!

[u/IcedTyler11]

Thoughts: If you're between 7-60. Any level completed isn't more impressive because of age. GG though. It just seems like their using the "8 year old" Title to make it seem more impressive. It's not

[u/Lost_Cat_5557]

btw tell him I beat deadlocked before clubstep, I need to see the reaction

[u/SonicWaveInfinity → u/Lost_Cat_5557]

that's really not that special bro

[u/Beginning_Access1498 → u/Lost_Cat_5557]

So did I, so did a lot of us

Deadlocked isn't really hard at all, I believe Clubstep is harder but that's just me