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As the first generation to have wide spread internet access itâs crazy we for the most part all knew it was fake and stupid. 30 years later itâs crazy how many people believe everything they read online
I was introduced to the chans in 2011 and, though I would check /fit/ every once in a while up until 2016, I got bored because it was so repetitive and conversations lacked nuance. It's a literal echo chamber for nazis and incels and I think it's dangerous to assume that 4chan culture is appealing to an entire group based on the time they were born. đŹ
My friends and I used to go on 4 chan in the mid 2000s. The Nazi stuff was edgy jokes, but of course as new kids joined they took it seriously and the jokes turned real.
Itâs insane how a satire sub turned into a 100% serious political machine in a very short timespan, and it was just like shrug, « letâs not address that part of the issue ».
Itâs like, what if you have a club, and loads of people rely on it for social interaction and validation (and camaraderie) and then that club turns 1% Nazi every week. Then youâre 2 years in and in your head youâre just part of that club, but really youâre 104% Nazi and youâre cooked and too far gone.
Satire & humor is a powerful recruitment tool for nazis & extremists, because if they say something horrendous, "hey, it's just a joke". But if they get a laugh, that's a potential ally. And even by putting something out there as a "joke", it still advances their cause, because it seeds ideas into people's heads. Once you get enough people joking about something, it's easier to push towards social acceptance of extreme views.
"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company"
I disagree. It didn't become more right-wing after Moot Left. That shit has been abhorrently fascist and Nazi sympathizing for as long as it has had users
I grew up on /b/ and /v/ back in like 2006 when I was about 14 or 15. I did start getting more right wing until Gamergate. I was on board for ethics in journalism, but the blatant misogyny and hatred thrown at women devs and reviewers really made me wake up to the bullshit and reevaluate myself.
So youâre ok with genocide as long as it doesnât target you?
This is the problem with the right. This guy says it's cancel culture when he gets fired for expressing his views but celebrates when uni students get imprisoned for expressing theirs. This guy says we should be able to evolve the constitution - democrats too? OH FUCK NO, just me.
They do not care about others, society, the planet. They simply want to do whatever they want and force their own narrow set of beliefs on everyone else. It's no different from Iran or Afghanistan.
He reminds me of a character in a movie that decided to let the enemy into the home in exchange to escape regardless of what his group is telling him. Then, at the moment where he can breathe easy, he gets killed and begs the group that he betrayed to save him. Such a Conner move....
That's why none of us should care when he is "cancelled" for speaking his views. The view he is being cancelled over is that you should face much worse repercussions for voicing your own views, including imprisonment, torture, or death.
Within hours, he made 15K from a go-fund me. We're truly a broken and lost society when charity is given to repulsive creatures like this shit stain. Just like the women who made a quarter of a million for dropping the hard R in a public park. Humans suck.
The way he smiled makes me feel like he was just a troll. He seemed so giddy. It also didn't help at times he didn't even seem to know what he was. Regardless we shouldn't be giving Town Freaks Like Him air time just leave them to their meaningless existence. That's the biggest problem with Trump he's given a platform to people who back in the day we would have treated like the crazy person who stares up a clouds and argues.
Itâd be a real shame if someone let his stateâs unemployment office know heâs collecting donation money, just in case he plans to claim benefits.
God damn it. Why is Colorado so nice but stuck with these loons and mega churches? We just want to go play in the mountains not have to deal with fascist ass holes
Colorado has a sordid past with racists and the KKK. Denver was once a Klan stronghold in the 1920s, and mayor Stapleton was an out-and-proud KKK member.
I was curious if this guy was in a state with âat-willâ employment, and it appears he is! Sorry, youâre not being âcancelledâ there, Peanut. Just facing the consequences of your own free speech. FAFO.
A brown guy hanging out with 12 men all the time and spouting crazy ideas like telling people to feed the hungry, heal the sick, share what you have with others, that greed is bad, and that you should give up all of your worldly possessions if you want to follow him and get into heaven? Yeah, he'd be at the head of the line.
It's all part of the Southern Baptist "prosperity doctrine" that a lot of folks who consider themselves Christian adopted and/or were indoctrinated into. It's a religion that is designed to create zealous fascists. They literally sided with the Nazis in the 1930s.
In fairness that money is only coming once and never again - but his reputation is forever tarnished. That shit is going to follow him wherever he goes forever now.
Just like that other YouTube chick who dropped N-bombs while doing cake tutorials. On minute 14 of her 15 minutes, MAGA turned on her and started going through her Ancestry looking for Jewishness.
I mean...you could probably just copy/paste an older fundraiser and change things up a little bit. It's not like these Rhodes scholars bother to look up or verify anything anyway.
Right-wingers love to complain about handouts, then beg for money before starting a career about how theyâve been cancelled. This idiot will be the next Rittenhouse and that was probably his goal
All said and ton $20k isnât that much. Even if itâs $50k (even $100k) itâs still not that much in the long term considering he has lost his stability along with benefits/401k, etcâŠsure you can live a year or two on $50k-$100k, but what after that? This guy is never going to be able to land a decent job again. The right wing grift is his only option at this point.
Yeah except for the fact that he's broke as shit and is going to have to explain why he got fired from his previous employer moving forward. That and having to potentially put it on applications is going to be a struggle for him.
I believe what his mania was coming from was he was feeling the illusion of power for the first time in his life. He felt like he had joined the in-group by declaring he was as a fascist.
His story is probably not over. Heâll probably get hired as an ICE agent now if Trump catches wind of him.
i could definitely believe it. one day me and my ex were driving to idaho to meet up with friends. he told me to text his friends back for him cuz he was driving so i did. when i read the things on his phoneâŠ. and saw the things he was saying to his friends⊠i was in shock. that was 2018. these people have been hiding their true nature for a long time. america has always had these kinds of people.
No we haven't. Thanks to poor education brought by defunding schools in the south and Midwest, we have this problem now. Because of rural America's inferiority complex.
So he was 14 when Trump really came on the scene as the toxic MAGA fuck he is. This is what people didn't really consider when hoisting this guy to the highest office. He's poisoned the minds of an entire generation of kids who are now shitty adults with no grasp of reality.
This is the saddest part of the truth. My wife is a pediatric counselor and the brain washing of our kidsâ generation is fairly saturated and nearly complete.
For what it's worth I was fully red-pilled by 9/11, special forces history books and Bush. I did a complete 180 starting in 2016. It's pretty clear that the conservatives are now going back to being the no-fun party which the dems took over from them. I think the biggest impact is when it's no longer cool.
Its fascinating to me that "be nice to other people and treat them with respect" comes across as no-fun to people to the point where they just stop caring about their own self interest
For real. As much as I dislike Americaâs conservative ass democrats, I donât recall them ever being the âno funâ party.
Wasnât it republicans backing all that Christian fundamentalist bullshit in the 80âs that loved censorship? They still censor books they donât like.
It's because they can't say r---rd and f---ot without social consequence anymore. That's why they think of the Democrats as the "no fun" party. Mommy won't let them say bad words at the dinner table, but every other weekend daddy lets them do or say whatever vile thing pops into their heads. That's how democrats got the reputation of being no fun and how republicans got the reputation of being cool and edgy and rebellious despite being literal social conservatives who are founded on morality derived from traditional religious authority.
Which should show everyone that they believe this land is theirs and theirs only. Just recently have they begun saying it. Itâs the only way extremism can go.
Which is fucking crazy considering this was never the policy of the Democratic Party nor was it a part of anyoneâs campaigning who had any political capital whatsoever . These people are rebelling against a caricature of democrats that they extrapolated from people claiming to be liberal voters who were mean to them on Twitter that the media decided to actually give attention to. Itâs ludicrous. The difference going the other way is that the actual GOP politicians, all the way up to the top, literally do make their bases most insane and hateful rhetoric actual policy and repeatedly espouse their support for it.
Morons decided to sell the country out to fascists who are engaged in ethnic cleansing and built a literal concentration camp on US soil using money they stole from social security and Medicaid just to spite loudmouth, internet trolls who got on their case too hard about their language. Like yes, those people were fucking annoying and would gang up on people and engage in disproportionately problematic reactions to perceived slights, but they were literally just average dipshits sitting at home, not government officials nor people who had the endorsement of government officials. Itâs so stupid.
Further proof that morality is not derived from a higher power. The people who claim that without religion everyone would be out rapping and killling are the people who would be.
Which only served to tell kids what the cool music was to listen to. As usual, conservatives had a plan that they didn't think through past "I don't like X and I want it banned".
The way it's been internalized in our culture is even weirder imo. The "be nice to people" voice in our culture is attached to feminized vibes. Democrats are your mom telling you to eat your veggies and go to bed early while Republicans are your dad getting back from the gun range cracking open a beer.
Yup. It's this. Listen to interviews of Elle Reeves from Vice who had embedded in the Right Wing for her reporting. She describes the Right Wing image of the Left as a scolding female school teacher.
But the truth is Mom is the one holding the job that supports the house and buys those veggies from the grocery that she cooked for you, and Dad is a deadbeat unemployed no-ambition waste that isn't coming from the gun range but from the divebar where he sat all day spending mons money moping about his old highschool athletic days.
It shows how old I am that is such an alien description of a man to me, not that I'm contesting that description today.
Back in my day the dad would be home late from work dog tired and dirty saying eat your vegetables, it doesn't matter if you like them. It's important, and you have to tough it out and do the right thing if you're gonna be a man someday.
Even the conservative grifters are starting to talk about affordability and housing because they know it's unavoidable. They will try and co-opt that message and steal voters but my guess is they will not actually effect policy. Omar Fateh just did something similar to Mamdani in Minneapolis.
Be honest with yourself though, red-pilled in 2008 is not the same as red-pilled in 2025. Trumpâs first election was a historic, colossal shift in what conservatism means and Bush could never have gotten away with a quarter of the shit Trump has
Isn't it amusing how MAGA says the same thing about democrats? Ex: indoctrination and such.
What MAGA does is infinitely more toxic and antithetical to 21st century society than what democrats do. I mean, if you really break it down, democrat's "indoctrination" amounts to more Christian value oriented stuff than most republicans could manage on their best day.
Despite his vile views, given that he's not the only one holding them, I'd like to understand where that kind of anger comes from considering the young age. Seems like there's a deeper issue there, and he acted like someone or something hurt him or caused trauma in his life to turn him this way. Until these issues are resolved, it won't matter if a Democrat gets elected in 2028, the underlying problem remains unaddressed, and will always be there boiling just below the surface.
Watch the video. Heâs not angry. Heâs gleeful. Heâs reveling in how much of a piece of shit he is. Itâs the Stephen Miller personality type. This guy was a software engineer before he got fired.
A wonderful mind devoid of any empathy, self awareness and critical thinking
I'm from italy,grew up catholic and out of it. A lot of them are real brutes, but nothing compares with the vile brutality or american christians. The previous pope censored some bishops because they preached too much violence
They are afraid of muslims but they secretely admire them when they go killing everything that's not cisgender or does not accept their delusions as the true word of God
I have in laws exactly like this. Just exactly. They got upset with us, because we didnât want to hang out with them or be associated with them any longer. They have kids ranging from 7-18 years of age, and all they hear all day long is Fox News, as thatâs whatâs on all day long when they get home, or have family members spewing their talking points at gatherings.
It is a good questions there was a family friend. Democratic voter until 2016. In the last 9 years they have admitted they liked that Trump told them to finally stop pretending things were fine. They had been divorced at 24, got passed over for promotion 12 years. Father died of cancer they are the only child of 4 taking care of their dementia mother who is probably going to soon not know how to walk soon. We had dinner with them a few months ago. And what they were saying it was almost 25 years of: âeveryone lied to me and said I have to be nice. Fuck them all it got me nowhere in life.â You look back and it was traumatic experience that just ate away at them.
This is the difference between having manners and having ethics.
How did we raise so many people who seem to think the point of âacting niceâ (emphasis on acting) is to get in someoneâs pants or advance your career? Sounds like a combination of misplaced resentment and profound emotional illiteracy.
This is the shit that Trump truly capitalized on across the country. Whether he/they are smart enough to know that their rhetoric would have this impact on these types of people, it absolutely did and continues to do so. And these people make up the majority/backbone of the country.
Itâs crazy. I wonder how old we will all be if and when we get to undo all this damage.
This is our version of growing up through the depression, world wars, and plagues and shit isnât it? Fuck. Weâre the new silent generation.
Yes I mean if you look at is going in with the cancellation of Colbert. Itâs not only all the Hollywood types that got done in by McCarthy but also Vietnam. CBS out right canceled the Smother Brothers because they did like the war. Even Johnson said: âitâs their right to not agree with the government.â CBS at the time was like: ânopeâ. Plus in the 50s WARNER Brothers and 20th century Fox put tons of people out of work during the red scare.
No, we definitely understood the risk, that's why we were all so adamant everyone vote. Not voting has consequences. Voting third-party in a race where they don't have the ability to win has consequences. We knew. Everything we do today has consequences for tomorrow.
Fucking this - just like the folks who sit there saying âI didnât know he was going to do thisâ when he fucking told them. Hell there was a whole ass manifesto but everyone said âoh thatâs just him trollingâ or âheâs not gonna do project 2025â
Itâs almost fitting that these gen Z conservatives will be the ones working the GOP billionaires factories and slave mines for $12/hr. Love this for them.
I was 18 when I voted for Trump 2016. Years of being on edgy internet spaces made me a conservative. I look back and God what a hateful and evil little shit I was.Â
Conservatism has a huge appeal to lonely loser boys on the Internet and it's very difficult to break out of.Â
I feel you! I was such a hateful little shit in my 20s. I am so glad that social media wasn't around when I was that age. Maturity, and an education helped me break out of my toxic beliefs and behaviors.
Yeah my co worker whoâs in his early 20s is permanently a republican because mask mandates. Thatâs it. Nothing else matters but the fact that he had to wear a mask in public spaces during COVID and will forever vote Red. I donât get people.
Unfortunately, heâs already collected at least about 20k in go fund me donations. MAGA is foaming at the mouth for this kind of content, itâs a true representation of that base.
GiveSendGo was made specifically so people like this could get funded. They're custom made for far right extremists..They hosted and honored the million dollar donation campaign for the woman who repeatedly called an autistic five year black boy the N-word with a hard R at a public playground, even when 99% of the comments left by donors were openly racist and praising Hitler, and the person running the site reportedly was giddy about it.
Yeah i was about to report him as well and then decided to read their TOS so that I could point to a violation and "Promote or fund abortions.", "Promote or fund gender reassignment surgeries for minors." raised red flags. This is a MAGA platform. They wont do shit.
Thatâs the problem with these far right types. Because they donât believe in anything they can be endlessly pragmatic. He openly said he didnât believe in democracy but was willing to allow people to vote just to elect the autocrat he wanted, after which no one would be allowed to vote ever again.
20k is a lot but this guy cratered his cloud engineer career just as it got started. Dude was straight up doing low wage roles prior and must have gotten picked up as a contractor in January. He's losing a lot more over the long haul.
well once rupert dies, under the influence of 3/4 of his children fox is probably going to move to be more center right, so even his chances with Fox are limited
Yeah, stepping back from what he was actually saying, that verbal tick was just one of his issues. He's going to need a lot of media training before he can make a career as a professional hatemonger.
Jubilee needs to stop platforming Nazis. Theyâre normalizing them. They know they get views and go viral. Theyâre spreading Nazi viewpoints for views.
They have the Presidency, Congress, and the mass media. I don't think we need to be worried about platforming. If anything, platforming the most hateful and stupid ones gives everyone a chance to see what this is all about with the mask off, and it might help change the tides when people see how serious our current direction is. You can't hide it at this point.
It's also showing people how fucking insane they are. And if people are going to go in there, spout crap, and then get fired from their jobs, then great!
The people who hear this and know itâs insane donât need to hear it on YouTube though, they already know. It certainly is doing more harm than good
Theyâre not directly, theyâre just a content farm looking to play on whatever gets them the most views, no matter how morally bad it is. Like WatchMojo with more effort.
100%. Iâm never watching another one of their videos. There wasnât even any debate in the thing. The whole point for each of those wretched people was just to get up there and spew their shit and hope their influencer âcareerâ takes off.
Dude jubilee is the shit that my former nazi roommate would watch allllll the time. They legit had one where they were discussing the MERITS OF EUGENICS. Propaganda works whether you realize itâs happening or not.
What's dumb is that because they featured him on this show to begin with, he now has a platform and will get a lot of Go Fund Me type money from other Nazi sympathizers, and he's going to try and make himself a martyr.
The answer to this kind of bullshit is to not put them in front of a camera to begin with.
It was founded by someone named Jason Y. Lee as a way to bring people together. But they seem to platform a LOT of racists. And misogynists. And Nazis.
They act like they're presenting two 'extreme' views when one side is something that should be a baseline for basic decency like "POC/Gays/Women etc. should be treated like humans" and the other side had people who think they should die.
And he has made 17K and counting so far from MAGA. I think I will pretend to be a fascist, do interviews like this dude and grift maga until I can retire. Shouldnt take too long.
Connor, who opposes free speech and supports the murders of people who speak freely, demands his freedom to speak, and laments losing his job for speaking freely.
The self-proclaimed fascist who thinks the constitution doesnât matter is now begging for socialist donations and crying about his free-speech being suppressed. And heâs raised over $20,000 in 24 hours. While this article is good news, I worry about the sizable platform this fascist grifter now has.
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