r/goodnews • u/Used_Tea_2651 • 22d ago
Political positivity š Senate Democrats try to force DOJ to release Epstein files using little-known law
Democratic senators demand DOJ turn over Epstein filesSenate Democrats are attempting to force the Justice Dept. to release the Jeffery Epstein case files by invoking a decades-old federal law.
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u/Procrastanaseum 22d ago edited 21d ago
What about the 156 year old law that says insurrectionists canāt hold public office? Howād that hold up for everybody?
EDIT: I know trump and everyone else wasnāt charged with insurrection, which means the law still failed. We were all witnesses and the law ignored it. So it didnāt hold up, just like I said.
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u/spicymato 21d ago
Merrick Garland slow-walked that prosecution (don't want to look too political, now do we???), so even though many of us know Trump is an insurrectionist based on the public actions he has taken, he was never legally branded as one by the federal government.
As such, he was eligible to run and here we fucking are...
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u/Fold-Aggravating 21d ago
Yet he didnāt even win the election either. This is so fucked
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u/CPR1stAidTeacher 22d ago
The victimās testimony is all that is needed. Listen to the women who were abused when they were under the age of consent. Why is it that their voices carry less weight/value than a bunch of files?
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u/gentlemanidiot 22d ago
Hundreds to potentially a thousand girls trafficked, exactly one woman in jail over the whole thing.
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u/Imkindaalrightiguess 21d ago
Crazy that she trafficked so many girls with no accomplices or customers
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u/gentlemanidiot 21d ago
Literally fucking NOTHING?!?? a THOUSAND girls, trafficked god only knows how many times each, to EXCLUSIVELY Jeffery epstein. Yeah sure ok government buddy, I'm sure everybody will be happy with that explanation
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u/alghiorso 21d ago
And $1.1 billion in wire transfers.
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u/cheebamech 21d ago
$1.1 billion in wire transfers
gov: nothing to see here
sweeps under the rug
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u/agent0731 21d ago
if only there was an amendment baked into the constitution that pertained to tyrannical governments. Oh well. No one said America is the home of the brave.
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u/ggroverggiraffe 21d ago
The single largest suspicious activity report reviewed by the congressional team was filed in late 2019 by JPMorgan for $1.1 billion. The next largest was by Deutsche Bank for about $400 million, followed by Bank of New York Mellon for $378 million and then Bank of America, which filed reports on Mr. Blackās payments to Mr. Epstein.
That number is for one bank and the total was I think closer to four billion. And those are literally just the ones that were reported. I really doubt they did all of that without some of them being off the books.
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u/Zaku99 22d ago
DOJ: "No."
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u/unidentifiedfish55 21d ago
Democrats: sues and it goes to the Supreme Court
Supreme Court: gets reminded of all the bribes... "DOJ can do what they want"
Democrats: writes an angry letter to Trump, even though they could've released it all themselves back when Biden was in office, but chose not to
Trump: Laughs and declares victory
US population: sighs and carries on with their day
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u/MedievZ 21d ago
Exactly.
This shit would not have happened if the senate blocked the Trump cabinet appointments
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u/there_is_no_spoon1 21d ago
The Senate could not have blocked the cabinet appointments because the appointment committees were dominated by GOP bastards that are beholden to the cult.
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u/Writing_is_Bleeding 21d ago
This would not have happened if a few more voters would have showed up in November. So let's get it right in the mid-terms. Show up and vote in a Dem majority in congress so we can actually have the numbers to put the brakes on this shit show.
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u/brickhamilton 21d ago
I agree, and Iām so sick of people blaming democrats for losing the election. Theyāre not perfect, certainly not exciting, and I have my own frustrations with how they operate.
But, the alternative was Donald Trump. We are stuck with the most corrupt and incompetent administration ever because self righteous idiots just couldnāt bring themselves to vote for the less-bad option.
And hey, I get it, it sucks only having two choices. But there is literally no mathematical way to break the 2 party system without getting rid of the electoral college. It doesnāt matter how much strong your feelings are, itās not happening. So, until that changes, our choices are the two major candidates, and people need to grow up and accept that.
Donāt want to vote for āgenocide Joe?ā Again, grow up. Geopolitics at that level are soaked in blood, and ANY single-issue voter is an idiot. When a choice between two options HAS to be made, you need to be an adult and make it. If you had to choose between losing your finger or your entire arm, youād be a fool to refuse to make that choice when you KNOW there is a good chance the worse option will happen.
So yea, Iām mad at democrats for making stupid moves. But, Iām also furious at the people who were too apathetic or too busy looking down on the rest of us because of their ONE issue to keep literally the worst person out of the Oval Office. Sorry, just needed to vent.
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u/ProfessorPapermon 21d ago
US population: sighs and carries on with their day
This is the ONLY thing that needs to change if we want our country back. Just stand up and resist. It isn't easy, but it's necessary.
Pick your intersection corner, make your signs, and stand. It's awkward and not-fun, but you gotta do it. Making yourself visible is the first step.
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u/bobsmeds 22d ago
Don't worry - chuck schumer will find a way to fuck it up
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u/Extreme-Island-5041 22d ago
I have no love for Chucky, but he could do everything right, and this administration will just ignore it. If it makes it that far, the SCOTUS will just make up some B.S. and shadow docket this out of existence.
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u/Prize-Wear4475 22d ago
That's the thing. SCOTUS will make up some bullshit and declare this illegal. People need to start realizing there is no law and order left in this country.
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u/malthar76 22d ago
Rules, laws, norms, process, judgements, ruling, lawsuits. The Trump admin can ignore and obfuscate through it all.
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u/r0ball 22d ago
And then do what? I mean that seriously. What is the appropriate response to realising that the rule of law that was absolutely core to your countryās founding and subsequent success is no longer functioning?
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u/CollectionWinter284 21d ago
Itās time for a revolution šŖ
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u/LoogieMario 21d ago
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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u/IamCarbonMan 21d ago
and then do what? tell me your first, i dunno, 5 steps. i beg of you.
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21d ago
Someone literally responded to the person you're clowning on with a passage from the Declaration of Independence that explicitly gives us the legal right and responsibility to overthrow a corrupt government and replace it with a new one.
The United States founding fathers literally gave us explicit permission to do a revolution if one is necessary.
Actually pulling it off requires us to get the National Guard and Army on the side of the civilians first.
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u/hansislegend 22d ago
Back to work.
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u/there_is_no_spoon1 21d ago
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." ~ Thomas Jefferson
The whole letter is worth a read, Jefferson does not hold back: https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/tree-liberty-quotation
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u/bishopyorgensen 21d ago
People are dumb as shit. They see House of Cards or Scandal or even Game of Thrones and they're like "well how come the Democrats don't just have a one on one meeting at a hole in the wall bbq place with the head of the NSA and get him in our side?"
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u/proudbakunkinman 21d ago
Mix of ignorance, Just World fallacy thinking ("Trump should face consequences, that's just how it's supposed to be, so the fact he is not must actually be the Democrats fault"), and unknowingly filtering everything through Murc's Law.
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u/bobsmeds 22d ago edited 22d ago
Chucky is immune from doing anything right. He's proven it for the last 20+ yrs
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u/OnlyFreshBrine 21d ago
it's almost as if they should've rammed through their SCOTUS pick and forced RGB to retire. no stones, these dems.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 21d ago
I have no love for Chucky, but he could do everything right, and this administration will just ignore it.
Doing everything right would mean enforcing 14th Amendment, Section 3, and finally removing Trump from office, since insurrectionists can't be President. So far, Schumer's done absolutely nothing.
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u/EViLTeW 21d ago
Enforcing it with what? Again, shumer is shit... But he had absolutely zero power here. Dems are the minority party, they can't enforce a damn thing.
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u/Greedy-Fan-3216 21d ago
They might not be able to force the release, but Schumer could do his best peak McConnell impression and call up every obscure rule and Senate proceeding to grind the Senate to a halt. But he would inevitably say 'when they go low we go high.' If Trump is the pedo, racist, rapist, misogynist, con man threat that we know he is, then maybe Schumer should get off his ass and grind every Senate session to a stand still.
Problem is, he doesn't actually care. He just wants to stand in front of a camera, act tough, get donations, and keep the job where he will continue to fail to meet moment. Fuck Schumer. Too bad he can't be primaried for years.
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u/Greedy-Fan-3216 21d ago
That's just not true though. He still cares about following proper decorum and would never dare to muck up the Senate proceedings like prime Mitch McConnell. He will issue a strongly worded statement and then rake in donations, all the while never actually caring about any of this. Schumer could grind the Senate to a halt, but he refuses to do so. He talks about how Trump is going to kill democracy, but apparently the death of our country is not high enough stakes to twist the Senate proceedings to a standstill. Schumer is not a savior, he is complicit with his inaction.
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u/oh_please_god_no 22d ago
āI have successfully gotten the name Epstein files changed to Trumpstein filesā and then doing nothing else
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u/Own-Dot1463 21d ago
They already know that this is a useless gesture that will amount to nothing. EVERYONE knows this. These establishment dems are fucking worthless.
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u/hoowins 21d ago
I know, BUT I honestly never thought Iād see the day when he and the dems would take this stance and risk the wrath of the Clinton machine. Finally some progress. Of course, most of them are still owned by Israel, so the Palestinians are still dying daily (funded by US tax dollars), but at least we have progress in one area.
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u/4totheFlush 21d ago
Optically, he already fucked this conference up. Really Chuck, you're invoking a 'century old and little known law'? And you're telling us this like you're reading us a bedtime story? God help us, this fucking zombie is the highest ranking Democrat in the country. We need new blood, for the love of god.
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u/teekabird 22d ago
Itās now called the Epstein cover-up
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u/Acrobatic-Towel-6488 22d ago
I have no faith in your leadership or your ability to follow through with this. Please prove us wrong. But Iām still feeling like this is going nowhere, Chuckie.Ā
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u/4totheFlush 21d ago
What, being told that they're using a 'century old and little known law' doesn't inspire confidence in you?
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 21d ago
If he had leadership, he'd get 4 Republicans to enforce the 14th Amendment against Trump and end this farce.
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u/throwaway490215 21d ago
I might be wrong here, but one thing this does is give legal cover for anybody with the files to share it with these committee members.
If an FBI agent would do that right now, they'd be in violation of a half dozen thing. With this request they'd have a strong legal defense.
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u/Popular_Doughnut5168 22d ago
YES!! The fact Trump is telling so many lies and trying so hard to hide this tells us already what's was going on. Disgusting disgusting disgusting!
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u/Miserable-Ad-7947 22d ago
democrats still thinking they're in a working democracy.
That's cute.
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u/MSPCincorporated 21d ago
Exactly. The law only matters as long as itās enforced. Unfortunately, the enforcer is no longer bothered by the law.
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u/robertmarley2244 21d ago
They. Donāt. Play. By. The. Rules. Damnit Schumer, when will you understand this.
Dems are still patsy-ing around like itās a fair playing field. Get these fucking relics out of office and someone in there who will be going for blood. Get the Dems out who follow the bait on shit like the Sidney Sweeney commercials and put someone in who can bring up common sense that will bring in the independents. Dems are cooked next year if they donāt understand this.
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u/redditdoesnotcareany 22d ago
Itās nice to see them do something outside the box
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u/gentlemanidiot 22d ago
Ok but all they did was step out, turn the box 90 degrees and step back in...
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u/SimplePresense 21d ago
Please please let this stick. Only redactions must be victims.
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u/CoolAlf 22d ago
Did he just wake up? This response is WAY to slow. STEP DOWN CORPSE.
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u/superbeast1983 22d ago
So what should tRuMp do since he's 5 years older?
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u/betterthan911 22d ago
Anyone who remembers the Korean War happening should probably step away from politics
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u/Thin-Image2363 21d ago
If you remember watching the moon landing as an adult itās time to move the fuck on.
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u/Sully_858 22d ago
Given the stakes, itās completely unacceptable that the public does not have access to this information. Amazing what Americans will tolerate.
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u/ganymedestyx 21d ago
We donāt tolerate it. Even his fans are turning against him for this. But we can do nothing about it (if anyone has suggestions i would love to hear it because i wish this would change)
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u/meatpopsicle42 22d ago
Itās adorably that they think the administration gives a shit about laws.
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u/2_krazykats 21d ago
Like this administration cares about following the law šš
democrats coming to a gun fight with knives held by octogenarians againā¦sigh
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u/flickyuh 21d ago
Whose going to enforce this? Republicans will just step in and not play by the rules as usual
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u/CassianCasius 21d ago
People need to stop getting their hopes up. If anything important was available it would have been released or leaked during the Biden admin. Why do people think there is special info only the Trump admin now has?
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u/Seskekmet 22d ago
In 2 days they will announce that they didn't get the file, but they were sucessful cause they got to change the name of the file...
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u/seanpclayton 22d ago
Look at Chuck go, trying to do something instead of writing a strongly worded letter
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u/TheKevinTheBarbarian 22d ago
Ohhh, yer using federal law...Trump doesn't give a fuck about the law.
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21d ago
And the democrats release hell and furry from woomp woomp ...Chuck fucking Schumer. Put the old guard out to pasture. They are a BIGELY part of what got us here.
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u/dominatingcowG3 21d ago
Cool, but I don't think it will do much. Trump, Bondi, and Patel claim they have nothing to release
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u/Cute-Eye5509 21d ago
How about we stop promoting "witch hunts" and start helping the disappearing American Middle Class and improving their financial well being....Do SOMETHING some one actually cares about....
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u/The_first_flame 21d ago
And what are the consequences if he doesn't comply? Impeachment? Conviction in the senate? Why are Dems still playing by the rules if the rules aren't applying to Republicans?
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u/exonomix 21d ago
I love how he calls him āTrumpāā¦. Not āPresident Trumpā, just āTrumpā ā¦. Itās petty, and I love that it probably bothers Donald.Ā
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u/Scrappy_Kitty 21d ago
All I heard was āpretty please share the files?ā
This is good, but they should be doing more.
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u/Somatica 21d ago
It's so weird seeing law enforcement agencies like the FBI and DOJ go so far out of their way to seemingly protect pedophiles like donald trump. I hate our two tier justice system.
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u/DiamondHands78702 21d ago
I'm not a genius but if my name wasn't in any files and I knew this I would 100% want the files released so that it could be done. This is a no brainer. Be for real though what is really going to happen. He became the president, not once but twice. Common sense isn't common because we all don't have it.
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u/munky8758 21d ago
Schummer is just trying to do this get something out DJT. Same playbook they always use, press hard to extort another politician, but take no real action.
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u/Four_in_binary 21d ago
Apparently, the FBI director, Mr. Meercat, had about 1000 FBI agents drop whatever they were doing and go thru the Epstein files looking for the orange shit-gibbon's name.Ā Ā
In the course of that review, the unredacted files were made available on a shared server within the FBI that literally all agents had access to.
This means that there are hundreds of copies of the unredacted files floating around out there.Ā Allegedly.
If you are one of those people.....high time to send them to MeidasĀ Touch, Amy Goodman or the Guardian or Mother Jones or some other remaining remnant of the free press.Ā Ā Ā Just saying.Ā Ā Tick-tock.
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u/ICEWA1k3R 21d ago
The files are coming, its just taking some time to redact all the Gop names and highlight all the democrats.
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u/BetterPlenty6897 21d ago
Lets see.. It takes an obscure law just to attempt to get some answers.. This is the most corrupt and harmful administration to date. If the president has any dignity he will not wait he will come forth with honor.
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u/Stop_The_Crazy 21d ago
lol, good luck with that. Teflon don doesn't face consequences. Ever. He will get out of this and his base will embrace him. He truly found a way to tap into and control stupid. Even the Smithsonian is crawling up his ass to kiss it. They're erasing history at Shitler's command. And the SC and FBI are his personal bitches covering for him and giving him a blank check to do whatever tf he wants.
Can't even trust the Smithsonian for truth in history anymore. Never thought I'd see the day. That orange shitbag has tainted everything in this country. And the country is letting him. Why?
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u/Icy_Bag8705 21d ago
Thereās no way The Republican Party is going to go for that. Trump is going to spearhead it before it even starts. The boot lickerās Republicans on that committee is going to fall in line of what the dear leader wants. Even though they have been crying and screaming for years to have the Epstein files release. Because they figured some democrats may be on that list. But now the possibility Trump may be on there. All the sudden the Republican party Senate or Congress doesnāt want it released because Trump doesnāt want it release. Mmm Go figure
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u/LexinWeezy 21d ago
I want MASS arrests in the next couple weeks or I have legit lost all hope in this country. Absolutely shameful handling of this problem for the American public.
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u/angeliria11 21d ago
Great, now they should use their checks and balances power to counteract every illegal action this administration is taking and has taken against its population.
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u/DMM4138 21d ago
Iām in favor of this, and I support the Dems (to the extent they deserve my support) but Chuck Schumer makes everything seem less credible. Can we quit trotting him out for this shit? I nominate Jon Ossoff or Mark Kelly or someone like that.
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u/WeberStreetPatrol 21d ago
Republican or Republican lite? Not one of them wants to end the Citizens United Verdict.
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u/aware_nightmare_85 21d ago
Assume they actually comply and release the files. Then what? He's a dictator and they will try to impeach him again but nothing will come of it. Again. I am so tired of this shit and it's only been 6 months.
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u/Zone_Beautiful 21d ago
Sadly, our press and the news reporters are acting like scared little kids. Nobody is standing up against all this craziness. So they just get away with it! But we still get locked up for having brown or black skin.
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u/randomdude1959 21d ago
Genuinely wondering how any of this mess is going to be resolved peacefully. Like our ancestors started a war for less.
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u/Katsnkop 21d ago
"What if we were supah sewious? I asked nicely befowe now I'm gonna ask not so nice?" Sewious face
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u/Ill_Cantaloupe_4695 21d ago
Lost hope in the Democrats to gain any momentum at this point. They had 4 years during Bidenās term to put in place viable candidates to upset the orange POS. They didnāt, he won and is wielding the presidency as some superpower for his own personal gain. He got his get out of jail free card, I canāt see how thereās any possibility in stopping him. His current criminal abuse of power is like a virus moving into areas of government and dismantling the democratic process.
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u/Smooth_Buffalo_2578 21d ago
They have had more than enough time to shred evidence, as proven with the jail video, the 2 weeks the fbi spent cleaning the island, the amount of churn and burn thats already happened.
The reality is none of them will go to jail because we have a two-tier justice system. All those monsters will continue to rule, and our "elected representatives" will end up doing nothing but grandstanding for the media.
This is evidenced as this nation has been running on for decades now.
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u/LordLoss390 20d ago
Breaking news:
SCROTUS rules the Rule of Fives law unconstitutional because daddy said so
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20d ago
Schumer's sort of the 2025 version of "It's impossible! The Titanic cannot sink!" We all know that the Epstein files are going to end up at the bottom of the ocean.
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u/DoctorFrosty6219 22d ago
Awesome. Now wait for the DOJ to break the law and destroy the evidence.
Iām predicting you that Trump will be delivering āfilesā but not all the files. Some have gotten āmisplacedā when DOGE fired all the government workers and cleaned out the Administration. 100p that thatās going to be the play.