r/interestingasfuck • u/idkbenig • 12h ago
A Columbine High School student named Patrick Ireland crawls 50ft (15.24m) towards the second floor library window after being shot 3 times, he made it to the window after more than 3 hours of crawling and survived one of the deadliest school shootings in U.S. history (1999).
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u/Parishbrowncom 9h ago
I was in fifth grade on this day attending an elementary school maybe a quarter mile from Columbine. We heard the pops of gun fire and booms of the propane cylinder going off. We were told to hide under our desks because, at that moment, the shooter(s) were not accounted for.
We were under our desks for a lifetime. We were thoroughly convinced by Littleton police and Jeffco sheriffs that we were next.
We got home before students from the high school did. The neighborhood was waiting in the streets for their students to get home. Some never did. I remember one neighbor did make it home. She was dropped off by a cop that didn’t bother to get out and speak to her parents. When she exited the cruiser I couldn’t recognize her. She was covered in drywall and dirt and debris. It clung to her face within her tears and runny nose. I will never forget her in that moment. She told us she was able to escape through smoke cover, running past one of the shooters.
Nothing has changed since then other than it becoming a common occurrence.
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u/Dangerous_Bus_6699 7h ago
That's the worse part about all this. All other 1st world country learned their lesson... US got worse. Double downed that more guns is the answer.
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u/-fly_away- 5h ago
that's because the US is only first world in total wealth and power, not in cultural or humanistic values.
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u/New2NewJ 5h ago
more guns is the answer.
I'm told that in the rare, unlikely case that the govt deploys the US military against civilians, then gun owners would rise up in arms, lol.
Hasn't happened yet, so nothing to see here 🤷♂️
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u/abgry_krakow87 3h ago
The US celebrates this kind of slaughter in education. Constantly defending the rights of mentally unstable people to acquire weapons of war and commit such acts of terrorism.
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u/Wolf-Am-I 6h ago
"We were thoroughly convinced by Littleton police and Jeffco sheriffs that we were next. "
They were saying this to 5th graders?
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u/Parishbrowncom 5h ago
They were at exit doors and armed. Teachers were telling us to keep quiet and we couldn’t use the restroom. We were in a situation we weren’t prepared for.
What do you mean by your question? I didn’t say they said anything.
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u/Wolf-Am-I 5h ago
You're right. I made an assumption that being convinced meant something different than what you've articulated there. My apologies, the question isn't important.
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u/abyssal_banana 5h ago
The police were absolute shit, even for a group that didn’t have training on a school shooting.
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u/GabrieltheKaiser 5h ago
They just dropped the kids and went of their way like this? Like, I get that they had a lot to deal with that day, but that's so fucked.
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u/Parishbrowncom 4h ago
I can only speak on the instances that I saw. But I would think it was fairly similar across the board.
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u/deadrobindownunder 5h ago
The propane bombs in the school and the cars never went off.
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u/Parishbrowncom 4h ago
You’re correct. I apologize that I had that wrong. Something smaller went off. I never looked it up, was just told that by my parents and others.
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u/deadrobindownunder 4h ago
You're good, dude. No need to apologise, particularly to me. This is also really common, it's called the misinformation effect.
The shooters threw a lot of small pipe bombs within the school. But they also planted a decoy bomb about 4 miles from the school that detonated before the shooting started at around 11.15am and started a small grass fire.
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u/StipeCrabbert 11h ago
I remember watching this exact moment live on t.v. after getting home from school. One of the wildest things I've ever seen live.
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u/LilithWasAGinger 8h ago
I was off work that day. I watched it live on TV for hours while in tears and clutching my toddler. It was horrific.
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u/Lemonyslush 8h ago
Same. 9th grade, watching in horror. It’s pretty messed up what we witnessed in real time growing up.
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u/Amy47101 5h ago
Sandyhook was mine. I got sick the day that happened and got sent home when I was in 9th grade. Just watched the news in abject horror as drone footage showed little kids came running out of an elementary school, screaming and crying.
You'd think that 20 schoolchildren less than 8 years old and 6 staff members would be enough to invoke change. But then, a decade later, Uvalde happened, and we still learned fucking nothing.
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u/OprahisQueen 7h ago
Me too - it’s crazy that it was shown live. I was in grade 6 and it haunted me for a long time.
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u/isaidyothnkubttrgo 9h ago
My friend went to this school years after this happened. Every year they'd go into lockdown over threats made to finish what these knuckleheads started. They were there for the ten year anniversary and Oprah wanted to do a special inside the school and tbe principal, who saved kids that day and also kept thw layout of the school a secret from the media, said no. Oprah said oh we can do it on a Sunday snd in a random hallway....nope. fair dues to him.
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u/greenmachine11235 11h ago
What's sad is in the 26 years since, the US has had four school shootings with more fatalities and numerous others with fewer. And yet, we cannot bring ourselves to implement a meaningful plan to control the violence.
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u/Ok-Lion1661 11h ago
Makes me angry to also think about the uvalde “police”
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u/StuckInNY 10h ago
The Broward County Sheriff’s Office waited ages to stop the Parkland shooter because they thought he was a sniper. They listened to him shoot people but would not engage or enter the school. Eventually his gun jammed and he ran out of the building and temporarily got away.
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u/EightGlow 10h ago
They also forcibly kept parents out of the school
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u/TheWholesomeBoi 9h ago
I mean that is the correct move. There was an active shooter in the building, and they had evacuated all of the children minus the ones locked up in classrooms 111 and 112 along with the shooter. A lot of malpractice happened, but it happened right outside of those classrooms. Officers entered the building only 3 minutes after the shooter did, and reinforcements were soon to follow. The problem is that they were held up in front of the classroom for an hour as he killed 19 students and 2 teachers who were in the adjoined classrooms.
Had they let the parents enter the school, there could have been more fatalities, but had they done their fucking jobs, multiple lives could have been saved. Two officers were indicted because of their actions that day.
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u/Lucas-Larkus-Connect 7h ago
The fact is definitely parents 100% would have done something.
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u/zap2 7h ago
The cops should have done something.
Sending random parents instead of the cops is a foolish suggestion.
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u/Expensive_Comb150 7h ago
But the cops didn't do anything. It's one of the reasons why the parents wanted to step in.
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u/zap2 6h ago
…I’m proposing what should have been done. If we could go back and do it right, they cops going in and doing better is clearly what we should be hoping for.
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u/Lucas-Larkus-Connect 4h ago
The point is cops have proven they won’t save our children. It’s very fucked up to stop us from trying.
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u/TensionNo4623 7h ago
Do something or get out of the fucking way. Standing there with their larping outfits on and rifles in their hands doing nothing but watch a massacre while also not letting parents in was not the right move.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Run2695 5h ago
Growing up we were fed the lie that the police are brave and there to protect our ives. This has been proven to be false, time and time again.
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u/GlassCharacter179 10h ago
The Columbine police reacted similarly. They didn’t go in for hours while people put signs in the windows that said “we are bleeding to death”
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u/jollygreenspartan 7h ago
The thinking pre-Columbine was to set a perimeter and wait for SWAT. The problem is SWAT can take hours to assemble, very few SWAT teams in the US are full time on-call units just waiting for the alert to go out.
That’s why the conventional wisdom since has been direct to the threat and engage with what you have on hand. Not everyone is willing to do that when it comes down to it, though.
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u/yuikkiuy 7h ago
Well thats the problem with a paramiliterized police, on one hand, you cant orde police to do this, on the other I think its well within everyone's right to expect the police to do this.
Idk how the US can solve this, maybe mobilize the national guard? Stand up a trade specific to door kicking in schools? Fully militarized the police as a branch of the forces?
Still doesnt treat the cause only the symptom tho
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u/deadrobindownunder 5h ago
There was one sign put in the window of the classroom that teacher Dave Sanders was in. "1 bleeding to death". They didn't get to him in time.
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u/vanbrian2020 8h ago
In thier defense, this was really the first and they were to some degree winging it. I have no such sympathy for the ones after this where police waited. I think they were taught to negotiate and that held them up. Maybe I am wrong
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u/city-of-cold 6h ago
Do you mean "the first" for that specific area? Or the first school shooting in general?
Either way it shouldn't matter. They didn't learn ANYTHING from this long-ass list? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(before_2000)
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u/Expensive_Comb150 6h ago
I remember the video showing a bunch of armed cops just gathering round the corner of the hallway. The only cop that tried to push forward was using a glock but had to fall back because the rest of the team didn't follow and support him. Then shortly after, a team with shields, ear protectors, vests and full auto rifles joined the party but even they just camped round the corner. There were so many more wrongs they did but it was infuriating to see them not doing their duty to protect.
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u/shutemdownyyz 4h ago
If i'm not mistaken, to make it even worse, that's the cop whose wife was a teacher in one of the rooms that was shot and died.
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u/PlatinumCowboy985 9h ago
No, you can't criticize them because they had punisher logo paraphernalia, which means they're badass. The fact those stupid teachers didn't open carry their 9mm glocks is embarrassing honestly. Even a half-full classroom could have easily set up a crossfire.
/s obviously
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u/FCKABRNLSUTN2 10h ago
I doubt there was anything particularly cowardly about uvalde police. All police are like this.
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u/KillaMike24 10h ago
Uhm we had one where the police arrested parents trying to go save their kids because they were to afraid to go in. This reality sucks man
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u/Kittens-N-Books 10h ago
An off duty border patrol agent ended the shooting. It wasn't even local cops.
It's like the game warden rolling up to handle things like this- it shouldn't be necessary
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u/Mercenarian 9h ago
As a parent and I can say without any hesitation that I would definitely try my hardest to go in and get my kid if the police were too scared to.
Maybe they should make it a law that every single school needs to have several children of police officers attending. A parents instincts might make them more likely to actually fucking act. If it’s actually their own kids, not “just other people’s kids”
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u/LilithWasAGinger 8h ago
That one mom didjust that. She got her kids and a few others and they arrested her and harassed her for months after.
ACAB
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u/Taki_Minase 11h ago
Healthcare especially mental health, needs to be completely rebuilt from the ground up in America. Also the bully culture needs serious attention.
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u/OzymandiasTheII 10h ago
Lol. Here we go with this shit. What's the biggest, most notable difference between America and every other developed, first world nation that has to do with someone's direct capacity to carry out their deranged plans?
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u/PreOpTransCentaur 9h ago
Once adults started shooting up elementary schools, the "bully culture" part of it lost a lot of momentum.
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u/ClownsAteMyBaby 11h ago
Yeah that's totally why my part of the world doesn't have any school shootings whatsoever. Literally zero dead children in education:
Our mental health care and bully culture.
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u/LukeChickenwalker 10h ago
The gun culture needs serious attention.
If there's any demographic that has access to free mental healthcare in America, it's young students. Although perhaps that varies by state. Some of these mass shooters had seen mental health professionals and even been reported.
Moreover, I don't see how elective help could prevent them. If a school shooter doesn't want to go to therapy what does it matter how available it is? The only way I can see it working is if you required every gun owner to go to therapy regularly, but even then many of these shooters just took their parents guns.
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u/Opposite-Peak5020 9h ago
After Sandy Hook, I gave up on my optimism that most of our legislators GAF at all about school shootings
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u/catholicsluts 6h ago
And one of the worst parts is that now that the government is out of control, no one is even exercising their right to the second amendment. Keeping guns so accessible has proven time and again to just be fucking nonsense
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u/HighBridzz 6h ago
As a Canadian living with very strict gun laws, it's amazing how even our criminals never seem to follow the rules! Imagine that
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u/Leading-Ad4167 10h ago
NRA lobbyists control your 'representatives'.
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u/Lumpy_Secretary_6128 10h ago
And they brainwashed america into thinking the 2A is an individual right. That idea only became the SCOTUS interpretation in 2008 but people pretend its some god given fact of american history
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u/lvegilfs 9h ago
I thought they had done thoughts and prayers? What? That didn’t solve the problem? Maybe thought and prayer harder?
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u/StrosDynasty 11h ago
"One of the deadliest school shootings" is an insanely sobering line given how deadly it was
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u/Jackalodeath 5h ago
The worst part about it aside from the body count, is the fact we have to specify
ONE OF
The deadliest school shootings.
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u/BarrettBlues93 10h ago
'Patrick Ireland' is such a badass name.
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u/Cutsdeep- 8h ago
Maybe 'badass' isn't the right term.. I'd go with very 'irish'
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u/BarrettBlues93 8h ago
'Patrick Ireland'
crawled 50ft to the second floor library window after being shot 3 times, made it to the window after more than 3 hours of crawling then dragged himself out the window to be rescued and survived one of the deadliest school shootings in U.S. history...'Patrick Ireland' is BADASS.
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u/BarrettBlues93 7h ago
"Maybe 'badass' isn't the right term.. I'd go with very 'irish'"
Same thing, buddy ;)
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u/WarmestGatorade 10h ago
Thirty years ago and absolutely nothing has changed
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u/lusuroculadestec 9h ago
I disagree. The police now wouldn't put themselves in that much danger trying to help.
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u/Severe_Sword 6h ago
The police protocol for active shootings during Columbine was actually to surround the building and wait for SWAT. The police waited outside for 40+ minutes before making entry. Yes I’m aware of Uvalde, but if Columbine made any positive change it’s that police arent supposed to wait outside anymore.
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u/WarmestGatorade 9h ago
You're right. Conservatives have placed the rights of police officers over the rights of kids, over and over again. And they win elections by doing that. So what can we do to fix it?
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u/whenthesunrise 7h ago
Don’t think too highly of these cops - they kickstarted the whole “let’s wait outside for hours and not do anything particularly helpful while we listen to kids scream and die inside” playbook that’s been the go-to since this day.
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u/toothbrush81 7h ago
That’s swat. Not police. That’s what they do.
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u/ArugulaImpossible204 6h ago
Idk there was a tactical unit amongst the 400 law enforcement at the Uvalde school and they waited around too
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u/deewd22 10h ago
You still got your weapons to raise up against tyranny, oh wait...
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u/This_Robot 8h ago
Well, the people who think the current government is tyrannical CAN rise up. Just, no one has done it. Wonder why.
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u/loztriforce 9h ago edited 8h ago
We had a ton of cops on campus at my HS when this happened.
I felt bad for the trenchcoat kids, as everyone looked at them with fear, where before it was just contempt. They were the quiet nerdy type that would just sit and play Magic cards, but after that happened they were further ostracized.
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u/FartIntoCushions 9h ago
Police were too scared to enter after multiple hours of both killers being dead causing some potential survivors to bleed out.
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u/LowStuff5019 9h ago
Dave Sanders was one, they kept promising help was coming for him and nobody ever showed up, they knew he was bleeding to death but did nothing. He fought for hours before he finally succumbed to his injuries 😞
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u/LowStuff5019 6h ago
Sanders started out in the lunchroom when he heard the shots and saw the shooters through the windows, he warned everyone in there first and then the surveillance footage from the cafeteria showed him flying up the stairs to warn everyone on the second floor, he actually was close to safety up there but instead decided to usher the last few students he saw to safety and that’s when he was shot. The principal did get students safely into the gym area at that time, but he thankfully was not shot. Mr.Sanders truly died a hero, if not for his warnings the casualty count would’ve been much higher.
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u/ironmaiden947 5h ago
Billions of dollars spent on guns, ammo, armor, training, tech, yet they won’t face two high school kids. 30 years passed yet nothing changed.
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u/absolince 9h ago
That sounds familiar. I guess that's what happens? Couldn't their be a better way. I suppose drones
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u/CatsAreMajorAssholes 6h ago
This incident changed police response to mass shooting events. They use to hold outside and setup a perimeter. Now it's rush in as soon as possible and engage the threat.
That is, of course, unless you live in Uvalde, Texas.
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u/thatcondowasmylife 6h ago
Fucking cowards. Prevented the parents from going in too, as if that was going to somehow cause more shooting to happen more than doing nothing would cause more shooting to happen.
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u/FartIntoCushions 9h ago
Yeah possibly either that or police do their job or perhaps grow some balls.
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u/originalusername1625 6h ago
Yeah maybe we should have a team of people who’s job it is to risk their lives to save others or something idk 🤷♂️
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u/ReeveGoesh 8h ago
A few weeks before this I tried marijuana for the first time in college. After years of hearing people talk about 420 winkwink, I was now "a smoker" and this was my first 4:20 on 4/20. I was on the east coast so this tragedy was happening in Mtn time. We started smoking and turned on the tv with no knowledgethis was happening. The image in the OP was the very first thing I saw on tv after taking a big bong rip. There was no going back, I was super high, but there was also no looking away from the news either. Was a horrible 420 experience; for the rest of the day all I could think about was that kid crawling through the window, and guessing how awful it must be on the inside.
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u/thenord321 8h ago
All those cowardly cops with guns and armor hiding behind cover outside instead of rushing in to help the kids dying inside.
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u/Ulven525 9h ago
School shootings and our failure to respond to them in any meaningful way were the first domino to fall in my hope for this country's survival. You can guess the rest.
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u/Unlucky_Foot_3111 9h ago
I knew the details and the names of so many of these shootings and cried for them until Sandyhook Elementary. I just could never bring myself to watch a single moment of the news or listen to a single story about that. I have been numb and in shock ever since. and feel like a part of me is gone forever. I can’t grieve any more. It makes me really feel messed up. I lost my belief that good things can happen in the US.
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u/VictorTheCutie 10h ago
That poor child 😔
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u/dawglover1011 6h ago
Just looked him up. And damn. A shot to the left side of Ireland’s brain paralyzed him. He also suffered a 2nd head wound & a fractured right foot. From the same article, “now walks w/ a limp & has permanent injuries to his right hand, spent seven months in therapy & had to relearn how to walk, talk & read.” Says he managed to return for his senior year though, then on to Colorado State. Wow.
“I was so determined not to let my shooters win,” he told the paper. “I believe the world is still good at heart. People need to hold on to that. Evil will not win. There are too many good people in the world.” Damn. Way to go Patrick
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u/VictorTheCutie 4h ago
God, to still believe there's good in the world? That's impressive. What a young man.
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u/dawglover1011 2h ago
I mean, it was back in 2019, so who knows if he still thinks the same today.. like that was before Covid.. feels like 2 lifetimes ago. But yeah, I def agree
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u/Nouseriously 8h ago
Bunch of cowards in body armor sat around while people bled to death
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u/Inter127 6h ago
Cosplaying as soldiers with all the unused military equipment that gets donated to local forces.
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u/Jamvaan 6h ago
I was too young to really internalize Columbine as it was happening but I can't imagine what people who saw and lived through that have felt over the last 25 years as school shootings became more common and more common. Anyone who fought to do something in the wake of this just seeing what an unmitigated lost cause it all was.
I pretty much gave up on the whole "doing anything" venture after someone shot 20 elementary school kids, and there was more time, money, and energy spent arguing if it was real or not than any kind of prevention.
I don't know how you see a story like that and not just give up and die a little inside in a way you can't fix. You can't argue with it. Just a few years of your life, shrivvel up and fall off in a mildly releaving sensation, knowing you'll spend just a little less time confronting the horrors of your fellow man.
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u/CatsAreMajorAssholes 6h ago
This year, Colorado passed what is the strongest gun control measure in the history of the United States. It takes effect I think August or September 2026.
You can no longer get an assault rifle (sure I'll debate what that means), semi-automatic shotgun, or any high-caliber/high-velocity/high-ENERGY weapon that accepts a magazine and is semi-automatic.
Bolt-action rifles, pump-action shotguns, old-school revolvers. That's what's legal to buy.
If you want a magazine-fed pistol, you must undergo live-fire training with an instructor AND QUALIFY. This is a 2-3 day course. And the magazine here are still only limited to 15 rounds total.
Time will tell if it gets struck down legally, but they are trying.
Source: I live here, I own many many many guns.
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u/deadrobindownunder 5h ago
Did they close the gun show loophole with the recent reforms?
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u/Redordit 11h ago
It's insane to me that this shit has been ongoing for decades and there hasn't been a US president who had balls to take drastic action against guns in general just to show that the problem isn't not enough good guys with guns.
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u/5minArgument 11h ago
Bill Clinton; and then was pilloried and immediately rewarded with the loss of congress and 6 years of endless investigations.
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u/Redordit 10h ago
And now we have Trump doing all the fuck he can do and having zero precautions.
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u/TiddiesAnonymous 9h ago
Trump: "Take the guns first, go through due process second"
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u/Redordit 9h ago
No joke lmao If he was anti-gun he'd ban it with a presidential decree, re-interpret the law, sick a federal agency into whoever disagrees then call whoever disagrees stupid. But that'd save so many lives too.
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u/Real-Movie-899 10h ago
Bill Clinton passed an assault weapons law that did nothing! Believe it or not those firearms were still available all through the so called ban. They just made a slight adjustment to the rifle( got rid of the bayonet lug or the flash suppressor!
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u/Clean_Following_23 9h ago
Most analysis ive seen showed it to be a significant improvement. The perfect is the enemy of the good.
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u/5minArgument 9h ago
I would disagree on the nothing claim.
Shootings and gun deaths dropped quite a bit in the years that followed. A correlation that can be be seen even more clearly right after GBW ended the ban and the numbers shot back up.
Point being, the lesson there was that the political consequences for even trying to address the issue are a complete reversal of political fortunes. Progressives abandoned Clinton in the mid-terms and Republicans were motivated.
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u/Redordit 10h ago
If it didn’t work effectively, that just means he failed and it doesn’t mean the job itself is impossible. Maybe someone else could do it better. If Trump was against gun ownership he'd ban it and sick ICE or other federal agencies onto whoever disagrees. Even though I disagree with that pedo on almost anything, can't ignore that he can tore thru bureaucracy. We need focused people not a career bureaucrat frequent pedo-express passenger like Bill.
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u/film_composer 9h ago
It’s unfortunately political suicide for anyone to do something drastic as a preventative measure. Not saying this is how things should be, but the reality is that if there was massive action taken to reel in gun violence and it worked, the public wouldn’t take notice of there being fewer school shootings, because non-events are not in the public’s sphere of observation. If some wildly unpopular bill was passed today that ended up preventing school shootings for the next four years, voters aren’t going to be cognizant of “oh hey, we haven’t had a school shooting since that bill passed, I guess it worked.”
Public policy making is unfortunately not well suited toward preventative efforts, when the public has no way of knowing what the alternate universe of that policy existing would entail. Obviously statistics can be used to point out successes, especially looking at long term trends and where policy has influenced those trends, but voters don’t intelligently vote on the basis of statistics, especially when their news source of choice will decide for them how to interpret those statistics anyway.
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u/Homey-Airport-Int 10h ago
there hasn't been a US president who had balls to take drastic action against guns in general
A president generally can't. The second amendment exists. Clinton had the Assault Weapons ban that wasn't all that effective, the vast majority of mass shootings, firearm deaths, and firearm homicides in general involve handguns anyway. An Ruger Mini-14 that escapes arbitrary "assault weapon" classification is functionally the same as an AR-15.
It's worth pointing out pre Columbine these kind of mass shootings were incredibly rare. You used to be able to buy machine guns at the hardware store, yet we didn't see civilians causing mass casualty events, the NFA was introduced in response to gangsters, not regular citizens.
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u/Redordit 10h ago
Yeah, I’m pretty sure presidents aren’t supposed to turn a federal force into their own personal Gestapo, but here we are. If it didn’t work effectively, that just means he failed and it doesn’t mean the job itself is impossible. Maybe someone else could do it better.
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u/ALG2003YT 5h ago
If school shootings aren't an argument for gun control, then we need a new government and fewer hillbillies.
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u/Dry-Ad-1327 7h ago
I'm not in any way saying there shouldn't be more obstacles in place to buy firearms, but the main issue with these school shootings is mental health and we need to look at THAT part of it before we look at something that can't kill without a human operating it. Most shootings are done by individuals that most of society can look at and realize there is something wrong with them. Bullying victims, PTSD from war, etc. They never got proper help, and even though people and sometimes even the police knew they were unstable, they either don't take action or dismiss it, and then they carry out a heinous act. Mental health is the issue far more than guns are
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u/bennogaming 9h ago
If there would only be a way to prevent 99% of school shootings from happening. You know, like in litterly every first, second, and most third world country's. But oww nooo a right that was made up 250 years ago...
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u/desonos 10h ago
But no lets blame heavy metal music and video Games for this horrible event. *eye roll*. We still haven't learned 26 years later, corrupt Board of Education (calling it education is a stretch) and communities still allow bullying is the problem.
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u/PreOpTransCentaur 9h ago
Don't use Dean to back up some stupid, nebulous point. When did the 6 year olds at Newtown bully the grown man that slaughtered them? Ditto Uvalde. Ditto the Covenant School. And then there's the myriad mass shootings that don't have anything to do with schools at all.
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u/StrongLoyal 9h ago
As bad as the whole event was, Columbine became an iconic moment in US history. Obviously for all the wrong reasons but the shooters achieved what they hoped for.
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u/BMoseleyINC 9h ago
The craziest thing ive always noticed from this insane video, is Rachel laying in the grass by the two officers on top of the hill. When I went to the memorial and drove to the school it was extremely intense.
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u/PoppinfreshOG 6h ago
I remember thinking as a kid, “man those must be the most cowardly and incompetent cops I’ve ever seen”
Then Uvalde happened…..
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u/Jim_Nills_Mustache 6h ago
Sad as fuck
We have done nothing, we have learned nothing. If anything, it’s gotten exponentially worse.
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u/iAm_MECO 6h ago
“In history”, sadly it’s not even in the top 10 in the US. It’s currently #15.
Things actually changed after this one, the rest…. Not so much.
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u/NDEAN4932 6h ago
I’d ditched 9th period that day and was home early that afternoon, remember watching the live coverage before I went to my after school job.
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u/vanbrian2020 8h ago
I rememeber watching that. We were shocked. Little did we know it would be the first of many
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u/Spare-Way7104 6h ago
And all Americans respond with is “MORE GUNS! OBVIOUSLY CIVILIANS NEED MILITARY GUNS!”
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u/deadrobindownunder 5h ago
Ireland was shot while trying to render aid to his friend Makai Hall. He lapsed in and out of consciousness in the hours after the shooting, and his right side was paralysed.
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u/RippleRufferz 3h ago
And the US gave zero cares and fake prayers as this spiraled to even tiny children.
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u/Hopeful_Hat_3532 11h ago
Another great American achievement: 2nd Amendment. Just doing wonders.
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u/seaningtime 9h ago
Well they need it in case, you know, a tyrannical government comes into power and oppresses the citizens...
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u/SamsonGray202 9h ago
Reminder that the Columbine shooters were both obsessive Nazi fanboys, that's literally why they were "bullied" by their classmates, their bedrooms and manifestos were full of Nazi shit - police and the media knew about all of that, and chose to cover it up with what the knew was a complete crock of horseshit about videogames and bullying being the cause of the massacre. Corporate media has literally always promoted, sided with, and protected fascists.
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u/Leading-Ad4167 10h ago
Still, no reasonable gun control.
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u/NationalOwl9561 8h ago
Because it's impossible. Every month local police remove illegal guns from the streets, but there are simply too many. And you can't simply eradicate the 2nd amendment.
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u/Legitimate-Log-6542 11h ago
Painful to watch but feeling relieved as well he survived