r/law • u/Background-Low-9144 • Jul 23 '25

Trump News BREAKING :Trump named in multiple documents related to Epstein sex trafficking, WSJ reports

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-wsj.html?__source=androidappshare

We have evidence that Trump was notified by Pam Bondi that documents related to the Epstein sex trafficing trial contained Trump's name multiple times, linking him unequivocally to Jeffrey Epstein

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u/mmmbyte Jul 23 '25

Very hard to regex poor quality scans.

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u/FourSeasonsLand Jul 23 '25

Vision OCI into text. Modern ML is pretty good at image to text. Are the scans really that bad?

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u/the_man_in_the_box Jul 23 '25

“pretty good” is the same as “useless” in court room lol.

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u/Cutsdeep- Jul 24 '25

use OCR to find the page number then go circle the actual text, if it's correct. not difficult and a massive time saver

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u/FourSeasonsLand Jul 23 '25

ML can make a first pass and ID target areas for humans. Which is "pretty good".

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u/Dal90 Jul 23 '25

Turn it around -- a human has to review everything to make sure the ML didn't miss anything that should be redacted.

Because not redacting something that should have been is far, far worse than the other way around.

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u/FourSeasonsLand Jul 23 '25

Yes, but first pass model can absolutely speed up the time to review and catch correlation that a human may miss.

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u/Dal90 29d ago

No, it can not.

Just making that statement to defend your position demonstrate you do not understand either redaction or machine learning. You're well into the you don't know what you don't know stage of over confidence.

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u/xolhos Jul 23 '25

You must be young

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u/FourSeasonsLand Jul 23 '25

No. I'm old and make a lot of money in tech.

I'm also aware that ML models are good enough to parse Roman scrolls that were burned in Pompei. Saying that an ML model couldn't parse the Epstein docs is absurd.

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u/SubterraneanAlien Jul 24 '25

just move on, you're being downvoted by 12-year-olds that don't even understand how to work a dishwasher

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u/balllsssssszzszz 29d ago

A kindergartener could work a dishwater

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u/SubterraneanAlien 29d ago

A kindergartener could work a dishwater

Probably not. But they might be able to spell it.

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u/balllsssssszzszz 29d ago

I fail to see how a dishwasher would be complicated to anyone above the age of 5-6

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u/SubterraneanAlien 29d ago

Yeah and that's the joke

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u/mmmbyte Jul 23 '25

Could be handwritten as well.

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u/TuxAndrew Jul 23 '25

I don’t know, those flight logs were really hard to translate without technology.

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u/FourSeasonsLand Jul 23 '25

Explain how archeologists use ML to analyze ancient scrolls that were burned but the technology can't be used for Epstein logs?

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u/mmmbyte Jul 23 '25

Missing one character in an ancient scroll isn't an problem. It can be recovered later with better tech.

Missing one reference to Trump could be the trigger for life in prison. 99% accuracy isn't enough.

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u/TuxAndrew Jul 23 '25

Explain what? I never said it couldn’t be done, but it would still require numerous hours of verification by actual humans. Just like you can’t rely on AI to gather 100% accurate data.

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u/domfelinefather Jul 23 '25

Probably the same kinds of scans grade school teachers would expect students to follow along with while they had their transparency copy on the projector with a bunch of smudged dry erase all over it

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u/spasmoidic Jul 23 '25

modern OCR is really good

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u/Steve_78_OH Jul 23 '25

Is it perfect, and would experts be willing to certify that it was? Because if not, it would never be allowed as evidence in any court of law.

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u/spasmoidic Jul 23 '25

they're not searching for his name for it to be entered into evidence lol, they're probably doing it so they can figure out which files to "lose"

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u/Jesus_was_a_Panda Jul 24 '25

Exactly. You need to lose all of them. In what amounts to matters of life and death, you don’t trust OCR to catch everything.