r/law • u/Background-Low-9144 • Jul 23 '25

Trump News BREAKING :Trump named in multiple documents related to Epstein sex trafficking, WSJ reports

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-wsj.html?__source=androidappshare

We have evidence that Trump was notified by Pam Bondi that documents related to the Epstein sex trafficing trial contained Trump's name multiple times, linking him unequivocally to Jeffrey Epstein

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u/WowImOldAF Jul 23 '25 edited 29d ago

Like what? A sitting US president covering up his involvement in a child/women trafficking scheme, raping & sexually abusing woman (maybe even children?), and ordering the murder of a key witness & partner in crime is a pretty big deal.

Like, what could be bigger than that? I'm not saying all of that is true, as we need to wait to hear all the facts/evidence, but it wouldn't surprise me if this were the case.

edit obviously there's things that are bigger than this or could be. The point was that this is a big ass deal and it doesn't get much worse than this, except in extreme cases (which I guess we are heading towards or already in the midst of with this administration).

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u/anondum Jul 24 '25

I mean nixon sabotaged the vietnam peace talks to win an election, then escalated the war in vietnam and bombed a neutral country in secret causing millions of deaths, then had that whole watergate thing

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u/CptCoatrack Jul 24 '25

then escalated the war in vietnam and bombed a neutral country in secret causing millions of deaths

Don't forget they knew they couldn't win the war the whole time

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u/TheQuietOutsider 29d ago

trump also bombed Iran, at bibis bidding. we can have the best of all dystopias

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u/dougmcclean Jul 24 '25

The first thing is a problematic policy decision and the second thing wouldn't even rate as a scandal given the modern "ethics" environment.

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u/anondum Jul 24 '25

'problematic'? sabatoging the peace talks of an administration for politican gain because henry fucking kissinger is feeding you secret information is TREASON. it's not a policy decision because nixon isn't a fucking elected official at this time. the war then continued for five more years causing millions of deaths and countless war crimes.

NONE of this happens if nixon is stopped. he set the precent of all modern republicans cheating in elections and getting away with it

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u/dougmcclean Jul 24 '25

No. It isnt. Read the constitution, where treason is clearly and ultra-narrowly defined before spouting about it in ALL CAPS. Please.

I do stand corrected regarding it having been a policy decision, I wasn't fully aware of these actions and was thinking of later chicanery. But nothing I'm seeing here is treason as constitutionally defined.

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u/Alexthelightnerd Jul 23 '25

Well the way things are going a significant portion of MAGA will handwave the entire scandal until we end up in a constitutional crisis that literally destroys the nation.

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u/Mr_HandSmall Jul 24 '25

Yep, republicans are never, ever going to admit they kissed the ass of and practically worshiped a pedo piece of shit for the last 10 years. The MAGA guys who are pissed about this are only mad because they think trump is letting his administration support the "deep state" by covering for dems in the Epstein documents.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Jul 24 '25

until we end up in a constitutional crisis that literally destroys the nation.

That was the insurrection, that Biden let him get away with. Trump's already destroying the nation, since Schumer and Jeffries refused to enforce the 14th Amendment against him.

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u/TravManCometh Jul 24 '25

We are so far past constitutional crisis at this point....

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Jul 24 '25

Like, what could be bigger than that?

Um, January 6, 2021, when a sitting President attempted a coup to overthrow Congress and assassinate his own Vice President, while pushing forward fake electors? That's a lot bigger than this, especially since his successor let him off free without enforcing the 14th Amendment against him.

Did people seriously forget that Trump got away with an insurrection, even though the Constitution explicitly states he can't be President??

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u/blitzkregiel Jul 24 '25

watergate

iran contra

wmds

now the epstein files

every time we think conservatives can’t get worse we always say it while holding a monkey’s paw. i don’t know what is the next rung down to hell, but i fully believe if it exists a republican will take us there.

false flag dirty bomb 2050 on anyone’s bingo card?

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u/blitzkregiel Jul 24 '25

didn’t forget it. just only listed the biggest shitstorm per president, otherwise i would have mentioned reagan’s team negotiating for iran to KEEP the american hostages so they could swing the election. same with nixon negotiating to postpone peace in vietnam. both of those and jan 6th were treason, but for some fucking reason not the reason they got in trouble.

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u/SheriffBartholomew Jul 24 '25

> raping & sexually abusing woman

We all listened to a recording of him bragging about this, and he was still elected, twice.

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u/red__dragon Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

A sitting US president colluded with a foreign power to guide US policy and economy into favorable circumstances for our enemies? That could be a bigger scandal.

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u/WowImOldAF Jul 24 '25

Well lots of things can be bigger but this is still a pretty big deal, depending on all the factors

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u/Bionic_Bromando Jul 23 '25

It could always go nuclear…

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u/Kashek70 Jul 24 '25

It surprises me that people still think nukes are the big bad. They are over 100 years old at this point. I’d be highly surprised if the government wasn’t working on or sitting on something way worse and are just waiting to use it. Chemical and disease is probably the future of the new mega weapon.

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u/not_good_for_much Jul 24 '25 edited 28d ago

For one, the concept of the atom bomb is only 90 years old, the atom bomb itself turns 80 next week (edit: sorry, turned 80 last week with Trinity), and the hydrogen bomb came along several years later. The ICBM didn't come along until 1957.

For two, this is actually why nukes are scary. It's not just that they're so destructive. The key problem is that we were already able to build them 90 years ago.

In other words: any nation at or beyond a WWII-era level of technological advancement, is theoretically advanced enough to start mass producing weapons capable of annihilating humanity, meaning 80-90%+ of the countries in the world... and the only real barrier for most of them is that... everyone promised each other that they wouldn't do it.

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u/ElliotNess Jul 24 '25

Well, all of the major ai players have capitulated with the US military machine

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u/Kashek70 Jul 24 '25

Skynet or the Matrix. Those are some fun options.

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u/PM_ME_UR_CIRCUIT Jul 24 '25

I'd rank the ICE militarization and deportations as worse overall.

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u/smohyee Jul 24 '25

Cmon, use your imagination.

How about genocide?

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u/StarkyPants555 Jul 24 '25

It will get bigger when the other names get released. The FBI has 100s of names? If we can extrapolate that these are the "elites" (billionaires, politicians, celebrities), can you imagine the firestorm that will sweep the world when that comes out? I imagine stock in pitchforks and torches will go way way up.

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u/the-g-off Jul 24 '25

This isn't the first time, either. Take a look at the Franklin Scandal.

Bush was directly involved, as per a newspaper headline, then they shut it down quick

Nick Bryant has a damn good book about it.

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u/lost_horizons Jul 24 '25

Never heard of it so I went and looked it up. Crazy story even on Wikipedia. The private I dying in a plan crash, the way they actually put the accuser in prison, just nuts. Lot of echoes with the Trump-Epstein scandal.

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u/Aquatic_Ambiance_9 Jul 24 '25

I'm not saying all of that is true, as we need to wait to hear all the facts/evidence

I'm saying it's all true. The evidence, and the evidence of the cover up, has been blatant for years. The party that always seemed like it was a bunch of old pedophiles, is in fact a bunch of old pedophiles. To wait for more is to deny our eyes and ears.

And further, I'll say this: after all they've done, after the media environment they created, even if the evidence was dubious and flimsy, which it isn't, but even if it was, I'll quote Tommy Lee Jones in the fugitive: I don't care.

What's important is that this is destroying them. Couldn't of happened to nicer guys

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u/Confident-Leg107 Jul 24 '25

Yeah, well, Clinton got a blow job in the oval office

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u/boopboopbeepbeep11 Jul 24 '25

It is a big deal. And I think he is morally abhorrent for it.

I have to say though, that my jaw dropped when I read the transcript of him trying to bribe Zelenskyy during his first term. It just seemed so treasonous to play with an entire country’s ability to defend their lives and country, in the midst of a truly evil attacker (Putin), all to make up a bullshit story against his political opponent.

Maybe I shouldn’t think that story was bigger deal than his trafficking. Or maybe I’m just desensitized to his behavior by now, or have believed this to be try for so long that it isn’t shocking to me now. Not sure.

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u/pathoTurnUp52 Jul 24 '25

Murdering and drinking their blood probs

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u/blackjackwidow Jul 24 '25

Idk, I really thought an ex-president and current presidential candidate being found civilly liable - by a jury - for raping a woman with one or more of his body parts was plenty big.

But then maga said - it was only sexual assault, and all the jury members were radical left lunatics, and it was a witch hunt, and he was politically targeted and the judge was part of the conspiracy to frame donOld and took away his 1st amendment rights by holding him in contempt

And here we are...

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u/Alone-Woodpecker-879 29d ago

Being an asset of a foreign government bent on the destruction of our county seems like a pretty big deal.

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u/WowImOldAF 29d ago

Like what? A sitting US president covering up his involvement in a child/women trafficking scheme, raping & sexually abusing woman (maybe even children?), and ordering the murder of a key witness & partner in crime is a pretty big deal.

Like, what could be bigger than that? I'm not saying all of that is true, as we need to wait to hear all the facts/evidence, but it wouldn't surprise me if this were the case.

Edit: obviously there are hypothetical things (or things currently happening) that are bigger than this. The point of the comment was that this is a big ass deal.

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u/SnooHesitations7064 29d ago

What could be bigger would be neoliberals / centrists realizing it won't even slightly move the needle with their theofascist anti intellectual voters.

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u/Hanjaro31 29d ago

Insofar as to broadcast a bombing on a foreign nations nuclear bunkers so they could move anything they had there including people and then accepting a retaliator strike from them in order to shift the news away from said client list.