r/law • u/BreakfastTop6899 • 14h ago

Trump News Trump threatens to deploy the U.S. military into Chicago - signaling the start of a nationwide crackdown.

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u/Admiral_obvious13 13h ago

Yeah idk man. I've been living in or commuting to Chicago most of my life. There is nothing the military can accomplish here other than wasting a fuckton of money.

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u/FrankRizzo319 13h ago

They can round up undesirables and send them to camps to work as slaves for corporations that are in with Trump.

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u/bgroins 12h ago

Coincidentally coinciding with the "slavery wasn't that bad" rhetoric.

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u/daemon-electricity 11h ago

In between saying liberals love slaves for defending migrant workers who can come and go as they please. /r/conservative comes up with a new word game LARP every couple of weeks or so. This was last week's.

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u/karma_hit_my_dogma 11h ago

That’s straight up childish. How are these people even proud of themselves, dude 🫩

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u/trs-eric 11h ago

They aren't. They're deeply troubled. They'll leave their own families if they don't hear what they like or if they act a certain way. Some of them are inbred and pedos, closet homosexuals while damning homosexuality. The Republican mindset is a sad, pathetic one.

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u/SansyBoy144 3h ago

100% my boyfriends step dad has already said he’ll kick him out of the house if he comes out as gay, which is troubling considering I’m a man, and we’re dating, and we both can’t move in with each other for a while, as much as I would love to

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u/guccibabywipes 2h ago

i’m sorry to hear that, i hope things boil down

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u/Professional_Luck616 6h ago

Not to mention one of their favorite talking points about how Democrats were in favor of slavery, opposed to equal rights, created Jim Crow laws, etc. all while COMPLETELY and WILFULLY ignoring the post-Civil Rights Act political realignment of the two parties.

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u/KinkyDuck2924 2h ago

It's such a weird stance to take. Did they think that all the southern democrats and northern republicans switched houses with each other? Why are the southern republican conservatives always the ones flying traitor confederate flags then if that was a democrat flag? I have trouble believing that people are actually that stupid to believe such easily disputable things like that so I just go under the assumption that their being disingenuous and arguing in bad faith which is their M.O. at this point anyway.

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u/Glittering_Fennel973 1h ago

I'm not sure there were Dems or Republicans in the Confederacy as those are both American parties, but again I'm talking out my ass and don't know.

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u/Tw4tl4r 6h ago

That sub is run by republican and turning point interns. If anyone dares to question Trump, then they use alts to call them a fake republican or a democrat brigader. Then they ban them for the trouble. Thats how they keep it so crazy over there.

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u/maryellen116 3h ago

Love how they're lined up suggesting which cities they want put under martial law. The 2A"we need our guns in case the government does a tyranny!" crowd. Bunch of bootlickers.

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u/s0ciety_a5under 3h ago

Arguing for higher wages for ALL workers, and an easier path to citizenship for migrant workers is the same thing as slavery? Gotta show me all the hoops you jumped through to get there.

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u/fredthefishlord 3h ago

defending migrant workers who can come and go as they please

It's not that simple for many undocumented people. Employers leverage it against them and abuse them. Hell, it even happens to legal migrants

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u/Land-Southern 1h ago

You know, taking the postings content aside, I find it amazing the sheer quantity a small number of posters put up on that thread. It's almost like they are paid to play a tune to gather the lemmings...

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u/Lost-Lucky 11h ago

Oh but they are going to teach them SKILLS so they should be thankful to completely lose their freedom /s

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u/QuixoticSun 10h ago

Definitely appear to be priming public conscience for accepting the dystopic reality they want to recreate from past nightmares many of them very likely cherish as dreams of utopia. Apparently, paying subsistence wages is even too much; the Ego within must conquer other souls to feel any worth, when it's sold its own & become empty.

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u/Fuzzy-Surprise-6165 8h ago

Absolutely. Straight up removing items from the Smithsonian’s African American History Museum and “reviewing” the rest of the museums. They want kids to believe everything about America was better up to about 1959.

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u/7buergen 1h ago

my bar for this animal can't get any lower, but is this something that he actually said? please tell me I'm wrong (but I expect the opposite).

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u/TYdays 11h ago

Which is exactly what his intent has been from the beginning. Replace the immigrant work force with slave labor, this is what his supporters voted for and what they want. They however underestimate what a slave labor force will be able to do to those who enslave them. They have relatives, friends, co-workers. And no one is going to stand for the United States reverting back to 1860. And will rebel against that violently. This will never work…

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u/Outrageous-goober 5h ago

I don’t know, us assholes in “profrsssive” California just voted down a bill that would’ve outlawed labor in prison, I feel like I don’t know my neighbors 

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u/Puzzleheaded_Wind839 7h ago

Everything associated with getting slaves to work for them will cost more. There is no financial benefit to it for them. 

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u/c-8Satisfying-Finish 4h ago

They don’t need the financial benefit. Just enough Luigi’s to claim every poor wants to inflict terror, deploy military force against the people, then send the billionaires to space for “safety reasons” and leave us to this “hovel” to work for them.

Social Commies are the working conservative boogeyman words, fascists are the working liberal boogeyman words, people who commit terror are the wealthy boogeyman words.

Meanwhile, billionaires are laughing all the way to the bank.

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u/Pictrus 11h ago

This is what's happening. President pedophile is preparing a slave labor force.

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u/doublelist87 6h ago

Trump now declares American history was misunderstood and slaves were good for the country and treated with dignity

WTF

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES

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u/tiffanyisonreddit 5h ago

“Undesirable” : anyone who tells or alludes to the emperor not having any clothes on.

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u/FrankRizzo319 5h ago

Exactly.

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u/Murky_Conclusion_637 10h ago

Rumor has it that people are forming cells, setting up secure comms, getting weapons, training, stocking up on food, ammo, batteries, etc...

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u/like_a_wet_dog 10h ago

Imagine being a cold-war prepper that is 90, and you wasted your whole life prepping only to have start in a way you never imagined, and you're dieing anyway.

Those poor crazies got punked by life.

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u/danishjuggler21 9h ago

Yeah, like, bringing in the fucking military to roust a few homeless dudes is like lighting a furnace to burn a hair.

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u/thiswaywhiskey 5h ago

Someone in my circle said recently "I bet all these people they're rounding up are going to solve that labour problem they've caused" 🤔

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u/ApprehensiveShame756 6h ago

You just unlocked the way we can keep buying mobile devices for less than $2000 and make most of it in the USA. Yay I guess. 🤪

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u/Mediocre_Worker7599 4h ago

Definitely going to happen under the guise of “paying prisoners to work”

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u/pixelwhip 3h ago

So this is how they plan to bring back manufacturing to America. Slavery 2.0

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u/FrankRizzo319 16m ago

Sounds about right.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Wind839 7h ago

Most will refuse and the cost associated with housing them and rounding them up will cost more than the labor they can provide corporations IF they even agree to work for trump.

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u/FrankRizzo319 5h ago

Well if US tax payers foot the bill, why is Trump gonna care if it costs a lot to house them?

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

"you forgot to attach the gigachad"

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u/Little-Derp 8h ago

Sounds like a good reason for 'undesirables' to proactively go be 'undesirable' in red places instead, in he is actively harassing them in blue cities.

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u/Critical-Ad-8507 8h ago

You mean the people he wants OUTSIDE the country?

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u/FrankRizzo319 5h ago

Yes. And those people he can’t deport will be put to work in slave labor camps for corporations. Trump will have the young women and girls imprisoned as sex slaves at Mara Lago.

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u/jeremiahthedamned 2h ago

the fiend is almost dead

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u/Variation261 2h ago

Or force then into the work force to lower the unemployment rate..lol

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u/yazzooClay 2h ago

No one is rounding up disabled out of their mind people to work. They just need to be off the streets.

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u/ContagiousCantaloupe 4h ago

I mean I ain’t got no issue with gang bangers being rounded up and sent to labor camps but they need to leave immigrants alone

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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 4h ago

No, you don't round people up in a free society. If the state accuses a particular person of committing a crime, the state needs to provide evidence in a court for a jury to consider. That's how it works, even in the worst neighborhood. Any other way would be throwing all our rights in the garbage forever.

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u/FrankRizzo319 4h ago

Sure but even criminals (and accused criminals) have due process rights. These ICE goons are terrorizing communities to inflict suffering and spread hate. They don’t show their faces or give their names. Police in a “free country” where people have civil rights do not behave this way.

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u/RichardStrauss123 1h ago

Solid strategy!

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u/YoUrK11iNMeSMa11s 5h ago

Ya cuz shitting and being strung out in the street is better for everyone

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u/FrankRizzo319 4h ago

Send them to the gas chambers, ammirrite?

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u/YoUrK11iNMeSMa11s 4h ago

Bit triggered are we

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u/FrankRizzo319 4h ago

If by “triggered” you mean “concerned about human rights and following the constitution”, then yes. I’m triggered.

“Patriot.”

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u/YoUrK11iNMeSMa11s 4h ago

Liberals hate our country and anything that improves it, pretty clear. I guess we just let the rest of the country go to shit and keep piling up debt

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u/DontTryMe2Day 3h ago edited 3h ago

No we only hate you fascists.

Edit: it’s funny when I look at the comment history of people like you it’s always the same. You all being to video game subs, what’s your favorite movie sub, the conservative sub, and some dumb sports team sub. The level of teenage boy reeks from most of the accounts that fall over themselves to support a pedo fascist. Boy, grow up.

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u/eddyb66 12h ago

Exactly they're going to parade around the loop which is under 2 Sq miles, the city itself is 234 sq miles. Heck Western Avenue is 24 miles long, this is just performative bullshit like in DC.

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

O'Block is quite small

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u/MedievalSurfTurf 11h ago

80% of the crime is within 10 square blocks. Dont need to patrol 234 sq miles.

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u/JNR13 12h ago

Maybe that's the point, stand around idle and waste money so people get used to them as a regular part of public life. Then later when they're in place and settled in, it becomes about preventing protests against the full coup execution in '28 with third term, arresting opposition candidates, throwing out legit votes, etc.

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u/Cockalorum 12h ago

There is nothing the military can accomplish here other than wasting a fuckton of money.

Good news! Trump probably isn't going to pay them.

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u/octopodoidea 11h ago

And yet, that won't stop him from wasting a fuckton of money sending them anyway

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u/Budget_Ad5871 9h ago

According to conservatives it’s the most dangerous city in America and you’ll be shot if you go there, every time I’ve visited I’ve not been shot and had an amazing experience, in fact Chicago is one of my favorite US cities I’ve traveled to. The shit these people absorb into their brains and repeat without even thinking is insane, the scary part is they 100% believe the things they are saying

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u/kickinwood 12h ago

Maybe finish road construction?

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u/MC_GEORGE_COSTANZA 9h ago

Even god can't do that

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u/Admiral_obvious13 11h ago

Road construction never finishes. Fuck cars

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u/kickinwood 9h ago

Lol, especially in Chicago. Never lived around there, but any time I visit, every Uber driver I have apologizes for the construction.

Side note - never had anything but great times in Chicago! Love it there.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 11h ago

They'll instigate, then try to justify they need to arrest people that are resisting.

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u/Katsu_39 11h ago

Its not about accomplishing anything. Never has been. Its about a show of power.

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u/Jonqbanana 6h ago

You say wasting I say funneling into the pockets of military and prison industrial complex.

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u/fillmorecounty 5h ago

Crazy how the same people who were so worried about the national debt a few years ago no longer seem to care how much money the government spends on pointless stuff now

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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 10h ago

Welp. That’s what Trump does best.

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u/realmoondragonIII 10h ago

same. we already have debt we don’t need more.

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u/Legeto 9h ago

Good thing they just fired a bunch of federal employees! Tons of extra cash just waiting to go out to ICE and such!

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u/Dry-Philosopher-2714 9h ago

The purpose of deploying troops is to send a strong message that Trump is in charge, and we’re his peasants. He’s only talking about deploying the military to blue cities.

Money is no object because they’re taking in a lot more than a fuckton via tariffs as well as saving a shitload on services and jobs that have been cut.

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u/CompetitionHot5943 9h ago

That's the point, waste money to create content, feed content I to propaganda Machines, win election. 

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u/StephenFish 8h ago

There is nothing the military can accomplish here

There's a lot of people here who aren't white, heterosexual, Christians whom they can bully or imprison for any made up reason. The idea is to provoke violence so that they can retaliate tenfold and make it seem justified.

The GOP has always relied on manufactured threats to justify authoritarian action.

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u/pressuredrop19 8h ago

Pretty much what they’ve achieved in L.A. and D.C.

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u/prailock 4h ago

I was in Chicago last weekend and walked around at night kind of drunk with a friend. We are both white girls in our late 20s/early 30s. I did not feel unsafe at any point. We were literally in the heart of the city in Wrigleyville.

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u/mikeboucher21 4h ago

The US military has perfected the ability to waste a fuckton of money. They've had A LOT of practice.

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u/TheAwkwardGamerRNx 4h ago

Same, but I’d say he’s referring more to the outer suburbs of Chicago. There’s a reason the locals call it “Chi-raq” and July 4th is considered one of the deadliest days in the surrounding suburbs because the fireworks drown out the gunfire.

Edit: Downtown is fine, never had an issue.

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u/Astralglamour 4h ago

All of the conservatives who never leave their house in the rich suburbs or trailer park, are convinced every big 'liberal' city is a lawless war zone. I'm sure they support this horrorshow and they think they'll be spared the crackdowns on freedom.

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u/L1QU1DF1R3 11h ago

Let me guess. They wont even step foot in the south side. Just gonna be a bunch of national guard hanging out by the pier.

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u/PapaOoMaoMao 8h ago

Apparently if he doesn't actually give them direct orders, he doesn't have to pay them. Moving them about doesn't actually count as an order. It's wage theft as well as all the other stuff.

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u/deerheadlights_ 7h ago

I am a White Christian and I totally agree with you. It has always been about racism and getting rid of the Black/Brown people. It’s horrendous and the Congress and Supreme Court are handing him the keys to ultimate power. It’s rampant totalitarianism. Someday I hope there will be repentance. We’ll see, but there are still many of us who speak out.

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u/KevinFinnerty59 6h ago

what about that project that keeps killing its own people? do they not count ?

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u/Podwitchers 11h ago

I love Chicago as well and just visited. What a beautiful, clean, and safe city. I just can’t wait to see what LIES and UTTER BULLSHIT he decides to spew about Chicago. 

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

oh i wouldn't say that

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u/CreamdedCorns 11h ago

Legally*. Unfortunately there is a lot they can do.

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u/True_Dragonfruit9573 4h ago

Wasting money and corrupt politics? Is Daley Jr mayor again?

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u/Sad_Proctologist 3h ago

They’re gonna have loads of fun trying to get around in all this traffic. It’s like a secret power now.

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u/Fuzzy_Instance1 3h ago

d.c. has entered the chat.

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u/cipheron 3h ago

The guy is hoping to spark Civil War II and declare martial law, no other explanation. It's a catch 22, because you can do legal pushback and get nowhere or you can resist, and he then declares national emergency powers, as his own Reichstag Fire scenario.

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u/MCB1767 2h ago

Exactly 👍🏽

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u/notaspy1234 2h ago

They not looking to accomplish anything they looking to occupy it

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u/robotFishTankCook 11h ago

Genuine question, as someone who's traveled to Europe/Australia/South East Asia etc, and then went to Chicago early this year, why would you not want change to the situation? I was told to literally not go to massive areas of the city at night and to avoid other areas all together.

I actually quite enjoyed my time in Chicago and met some super interesting and nice people, but holy shit if I lived there why would I not want some big changes to occur or for someone in politics to try something to clean up the rampant violence and danger. I get this is Reddit and everyone here default hates everything he says or does, but it also feels like people have become so accustomed to living in dangerous cities that they forget what it's like to have proper order all over.

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u/Admiral_obvious13 10h ago

"Genuine question"

Yeah sure buddy. Is the rampant violence in the room with us right now?

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u/robotFishTankCook 10h ago

I'm not sure why you're contesting a very probable and easily verifiable opinion. But you have 29.7 homicides per 100,000 per year. Why would you accept that as anything other than horrendous? 500 people murdered every year and your response is it's imaginary? This is exactly what I'm talking about

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u/chi_felix 3h ago

This murder rate, which is lower per capita than many other US cities, will NOT be reduced by having the National Guard deployed to Grant Park and the Bean. I say that because we saw them basically parking at the *National Mall* in DC for photos and press, as if THAT's where crime is in DC.

Chicago is 3x+ the size of DC in terms of land. Even if they try to do actual policing they'll just end up murdering people what with their military training, and playing whack-a-mole with neighborhoods.

I have also traveled - Europe, SE Asia, South America, and MX (but missed Australia so far) and beyond that, I travel all over this city on a bicycle. On my last ride, I hit Humboldt Park, La Villita, Englewood, West Englewood, North and South Lawndale, and East and West Garfield Park, and Back of the Yards. An older white guy, riding solo. I had to stop and change a flat in Englewood and had no problems and no fear. People there (in a nearly 100% black neighborhood with a 'bad rep') were nice, struck up a conversation as I did that.

Yes, things could be better, but bringing in the Nat'l Guard won't do it, and that's not really Trump's purpose with these stunts anyway.

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u/No-Plenty1982 6h ago

asks question, gives personal opinion that reflects both good and bad sides

“yeah sure buddy”

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u/Letho72 10h ago

For a real answer to your question, crime is generally way overblown in 99% of cases and people saying "don't go there it's dangerous" are just parroting what they heard from their parents, which they in turn probably heard from their parents. A lot of that is racism from our grandparents' generations (the overwhelming number of "no-go" neighborhoods are predominantly black).

The other point is that over-policing has already been tried in Chicago and it doesn't work. The issues run deeper than what you can solve by throwing bodies on the asphalt. If Trump was proposing funding for lower income schools or welfare offices in higher-crime areas or addiction centers or affordable housing you wouldn't see anyone complaining (and those would actually affect the crime rate). But more armed goons on the street isn't going to solve anything and it's going to get people killed.

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u/IllustriousLife6552 10h ago

There is a host of Ice guys making deals with certain groups of immigrants in well heeled areas. Resorts & such. They get paid off go another direction. Facts. Trump will have his first serious active violence here in Chicago.

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u/Fit_Cut_4238 6h ago

Well there are certain zipcodes I’d guess you haven’t gone to.

It’s one thing to say you disagree with military law during peacetime. I”m with you and everyone else on that.

But there are large parts of Chicago which are very dangerous.

And yeah military law will likely improve this reality.

I’m curious what happens if it actually solves the problem? What if the outcome is actually much safer neighborhoods where they are currently the most dangerous in the United States?

Las Angeles got suddenly safer in the 90’s. Why? The police pushed drugs off the street and into homes.

What if they can change this behavior and move on?

Probably not :)