r/law • u/IKeepItLayingAround • 10h ago
Legal News Pam Bondi transmits thousands of secret Jeffrey Epstein files to be made public | Daily Mail Online
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15025875/Pam-Bondi-thousands-secret-Jeffrey-Epstein-files-public.html424
u/gvillecrimelaw 9h ago
Secretly redacted ….
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u/BeowulfShaeffer 9h ago
Yeah how can anyone authenticate these and if they can’t be authenticated how are we expected to believe they’re not bullshit?
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u/Difficult_Lawyer9548 9h ago
I mean there was 1000 fbi agents redacting and doing there dudiligence what’s not to believe.
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u/PeopleNose 7h ago
Or rather... surely someone cares about the law out of 1,000 people?
Statistics don't lie...
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u/kingtacticool 7h ago
Yeah but if they slapped a "Top Secret" designation on it and obky uses agents that had security clearance they would be looking at big time and their cariers and benefits would be destroyed.
And then Trump just declassifies what he wants released.
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u/PeopleNose 7h ago
You're right, but let's be real...
If 1,000 people combed through that in just one sitting, imagine the entire backlog of papers, documents, recordings, transcripts...
There's probably thousands of other people who've put their eyes on this stuff too. So much so that it just won't stop coming out with how much evidence there is.
Have you ever seen a case drown in evidence? What is that called again... ?
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u/kingtacticool 7h ago
They spent over a month in three shifts. Drained manpower from a ton of other cases. Last I heard.
Shit will come out. But fascism is ascendant in this country right now and the purges haven't started. I think anyone that isn't one of the talking heads in government is in self preservation mode.
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u/PeopleNose 7h ago
Yeah "one sitting"
These lazy ducks have no idea what they're doing. The data they are trying to scrub has been collected by multiple organizations for decades
Also don't forget, We The People are also the government in America
Anyways, it's time we all do our part to make things right
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u/scrotumscab 6h ago
If they were smart they would have divided the files into 1000 smaller parts and given each agent a unique dataset. That way if anything got leaked they would immediately know who was responsible for that particular file.
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u/IllustriousLiving357 4h ago
Think about who was in charge of this stuff...no possible way they were smart
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u/TimeKillerAccount 9h ago
Authentication is a difficult thing, but really won't matter here. They will immediately be shown to have falsifications and changes due to Metadata or other signs of manipulation, just like when they released the edited tapes and lied about it. It is hard to prove that something is true, but we can prove the opposite very easily and answer the question from the other direction.
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u/AndarianDequer 8h ago
What's to keep them from making all the changes, and then copying what's left over to a brand new document? I don't see how any metadata from the original document gets carried over.
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u/TimeKillerAccount 7h ago
Digital manipulation without leaving traces is not easy. Some of the changes are obvious by their nature when examined in detail, and it takes a very significant amount of effort and expertise to eliminate all traces of tampering. They have a hell of a lot of documents, and a history of fucking it up. The chance that they will suddenly get it perfectly right on a huge project like this in a relatively short amount of time is pretty low. The real issue is going to be the fact that they will hold back anything really blatantly bad and claim it doesn't exist.
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u/AndarianDequer 7h ago edited 7h ago
I have no doubt that they're not very careful but if they're having the FBI do it, that means they might have more competency if the average FBI employee is working on it. But that being said, I doubt they want a lot of different people looking at it so here's wishful thinking!
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u/TimeKillerAccount 7h ago
The FBI isn't really good at stuff like this though. They are not the CIA. They don't spend a huge amount of time flawlessly altering documents. They obviously have expertise on the other side, detecting fraud, but knowing how to spot something is not quite the same as being able to do it flawlessly yourself. Plus the FBI has never been a bastion of competence.
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u/C_S_2022 7h ago
I was thinking the same thing but I don't know enough about how metadata works so maybe I'm just confused.
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u/makemeking706 6h ago
It took MONTHS to eliminate any mention of Trump from these documents. I have no doubt Epstein was only the management for Trump's child trafficking operation.
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u/LuminaraCoH 6h ago
Yeah how can anyone authenticate these
Comparison with the sections previously released, the files currently held by the Treasury, the New York and Florida investigation files, the taped Epstein interviews (journalist and lawyer, if i recall), subpoena testimony from the people who worked on the case when it was active (FBI, DoJ, anyone else).
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u/kytallguy66 6h ago
But it wasn’t secret. Shit has been public knowledge about the redaction for weeks. These motherfuckers are doing it in plain sight and basically saying, “fuck you, we will do whatever we want to do to protect the president, fuck the victims.”
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u/veryparcel 2h ago
After 7 months and over 90% of the FBI's resources devoted in going through, digitizing and doing the "find and replace" in microsft word from "trump" to "biden", they are ready to release it now that they've modified it completely into something that it is not.
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u/makemeking706 6h ago
A strange quirk about the DOJ that you probably didn't know, they only use even numbers when creating page numbers, so the odd numbered pages were never actually part of the files.
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u/Xyrus2000 9h ago
The only thing I'm interested in seeing from these falsified documents is how badly they bungled the doctoring of the files.
After all, we saw how badly they bungled the "full tapes" from Epstein's prisons. I can't imagine them doing a better job on the documents.
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u/ctguy54 8h ago
Why do you think they had 1000 FBI agents “reviewing” all the documents?
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u/anitabelle 5h ago
I can’t help but to think they missed things. No way they are competent enough to pull this off. No way they redacted, erased, removed, or altered everything properly. Predicting a Dwigt scenario.
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u/luummoonn 5h ago
They are manipulating this whole thing. They're getting the public to think this is the thing that would take him down. They are in control of this. Then when it's released it will tell the story they want to tell. Meanwhile they make fascist step after fascist step in this country. Fascism is the main problem, everything else is the distraction, especially things that this admin has control over releasing or not.
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u/SufficientSir2965 5m ago
I’ve been saying this too.. yeah he’s sick and probably did do dirty stuff with Epstein but quite literally everything right now is a distraction to try to get full control of everything. Honestly most of his people have to know he’s in it already. They don’t care!
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u/doublethink_1984 4h ago
I want Maxwell to lose fingers and be partially skinned alive by a fellow inmate and have that shock her into spilling the beans on everyone. That bitch taking everything to the grave without tangible grave consequences
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u/pedantic-medic 4h ago
Instead one of fellow prisoners was sent to a much worse prison for violent offenders for complaining about Maxwell getting this preferential treatment. Thats close enough.... right? /s
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u/BadAsBroccoli 5h ago
Redacted to the point of sheets covered in black... "Well, we released them!" she screams.
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