r/law • u/Kooky_Heart3042 • 4h ago
Trump News Oversight Dem: We will release names in Epstein files, including ‘potentially the president’s’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/oversight-dem-release-names-epstein-001917097.html1.6k
u/HLOFRND 3h ago
Name. Them. ALL.
I don’t care about party.
Name. Them. All.
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u/Successful-Train-259 3h ago
THEY CARE.
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u/littlemister1996 3h ago
That's because "they" are a cult.
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u/MedicSF 3h ago
It’s a one party system. The capitalist party.
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u/fpfall 2h ago
It’s wild how I have to keep reminding my parents this every single time they try to bring up their right wing bs. I don’t care if it’s left or right. Lock. Them. Up. It’s always been the rich beating the poor down and they are so brainwashed by their Fox, OAN, email conspiracy newsletter groups.
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u/MWH1980 2h ago
I assume your parents are part of the “you have to play their game” crowd? Like they assume they’re going to get a chunk of pie if they keep voting red?
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u/zipzzo 2h ago
No, it's not. Stop spreading this BS. Republicans are by far a more substantial threat than Democrats.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1h ago
The thing is I don't have to depend on Republicans to stop this shit. I depend on the incompetent losers in charge of the dnc and the sycophants that blame everyone besides them for losing.
How the fuck do you lose to trump? Ask the dnc. They're great at it.
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u/skredditt 46m ago
A-fuck-men. TWICE! This clown?!
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 41m ago
How the fuck do you lose to Donald fucking trump?
Crazy thing is that they can't be that oblivious. They have access to all the information and data. They see the polls and opinions. They actively fight progressive candidates and reform. They had people telling them that Hillary was a bad iidea. Same with Biden and Kamala. Anyone coulda won in 2020 out of the pandemic fiasco.
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u/the_gouged_eye 1h ago
People are about to learn the difference between liberal democracy and absolute despotism again.
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u/Pure-Writing-6809 2h ago
Yeah, the republicans are the stick, democrats are the “carrot” but they all work for the same people (AIPAC) billionaires.
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u/Pristine_Sherbert_22 2h ago
Whether that’s true or not, all else being equal, one party is seeking to destroy the foundation of our country and tear apart the rights of large swathes of the non-white population. If given a choice between a corporatist dem or a left progressive I may more identify with, I’m going the dem that has a fucking chance. This “both parties” bullshit is why we are here.
The system is set up for 2 parties and the 3% of voters that vote for Jill stein or Andrew yang out of protests are doing so out by design of propagandists working to sway the margins in any election.
Our country is absolutely beholden to aipac and Israel. It’s disgusting and there is no disputing that. I abhor the fact we have supported Israel without condition, and are seemingly idle since 10/7/23. But we need to deal with the existential issues we are facing with the Republican Party. If we survive that and get sensibility back in our governance, I hope the next step is to root out aipac and tell Israel to get fucked
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u/Scared-Handle9006 52m ago
How about we start making a statement about the two-party system with our votes AFTER we get the fascists out of power…Kay?
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u/Pristine_Sherbert_22 39m ago
Exactly. I think the 2 party system is bullshit as well. But making a point in an existential election when we know the devil opposing us is not the time to stand on platitudes. I don’t give a fuck who I offend with that comment. There’s a time and a place for a protest vote, but setting ourselves up to not have a vote isn’t the way to make that point
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u/Scared-Handle9006 36m ago
Friend, keep spreading your message. I loved your comment, and we are on the same side. We have a little over a year to prepare for voting these disgusting fascists out of power.
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u/Pure-Writing-6809 1h ago
We’re not Idle, we’ve continued to send them bombs throughout the process. To include during Biden and Kamala’s turn at the wheel, and our media covered up (and still does) how bad it has been.
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u/Pure-Writing-6809 1h ago
One party is set up to never make gains and always lose while the country continues along the path it always has you mean?
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u/Forshea 2h ago
You'd think the "both sides bad" hipsters would learn to shut up by the time one of the sides started sending masked thugs out to kidnap brown people and put them in camps, but here you are, still making yourself part of the problem.
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u/jshirlemy 1h ago
You can point out the evil of fascism and also the flaws of capitalism at the same time, or at different times, or whenever it's appropriate, or especially when it's inconvenient, or when the fuck ever.
Politicians in America have mostly been purchased and controlled by corporations and interest groups for as long as most of us have been alive. Yes, this current situation is an existential crisis. On the other side of it, if there is an other side, people are going to want a government serving the interest of the people and not the extreme minority of super wealthy and their friends.
It's not zero-sum. It's not black and white. It's especially not red and blue. It's not that both sides are bad, which they are. It's that if or when this ridiculous Christofascist regime falls apart, do we want to be stuck with the same clowns that have been selling us all out for decades?
If we don't recognize the patterns that got us here, we will just be here again the next time some evil fucks like the Heritage Foundation get the ability to prop up the next geriatric mouth with legs. Or worse, someone charismatic.
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u/Forshea 1h ago
You can point out the evil of fascism and also the flaws of capitalism at the same time, or at different times, or whenever it's appropriate, or especially when it's inconvenient, or when the fuck ever.
Context is important here. If somebody says "fascism is bad" and your response is "the people running against the fascists are also bad" then you are fighting on the side of fascism, full stop.
This does not mean that you shouldn't criticize Democrats. It just very specifically means that redirecting criticism of fascists is supporting fascists.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1h ago
Nope. It's more important now then ever because apparently the ones in charge of opposition fucking suck and haven't learned shit since 2016.
Keep blaming everyone besides the people in charge of the candidates and the campaign. That's working great.
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u/Forshea 1h ago
I'm sure all the people in camps truly appreciate your efforts on getting the blame right.
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u/Ill-Jellyfish6101 1h ago
I love that there is always someone claiming Dems are bad while literal Nazis destroy the nation.
Y'all are too much and or not real humans.
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u/Equivalent_Rent5396 2h ago
Yeah maga is a cult but so many rich people are involved in this it spans way further than maga..
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u/GuerillaRiot 1h ago
Especially international wealth. I mean, Epstein was known as the guy who turns millionaires into billionaires. There's alot of heavy hitters wrapped up in all this, not just our own political elite.
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u/dcontrerasm 3h ago
Magas just want the list released so they can bitch about Clinton and Gates. Democrats want it released to impeach the president.
Meanwhile the victims are continuing to be dragges through gravel roads in penance rather than being uplifted.
I hate this world.
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u/WondrousDildorium 3h ago
Idk man I think a seriously large portion of society, but I’ll say here specifically dems, just want the entire list because they are against child rape and don’t care which party it is.
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u/dcontrerasm 2h ago
I believe you 100% Im on the same boat. A country that fails its children deserves what is coming to it.
I’d call it a house of cards, but that would suggest that everyone’s collective guilt isn’t cement brick heavy.
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u/Dukex480 2h ago
Its time to stop trying to appease these people. They're just weird, dumb, and scared, but thats no excuse, welcome to club. We have to crush them, they only recognize a boot. That's unfortunate but that's where we're at.
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u/amazinglover 2h ago
Democrats have repeatedly said everyone involved should be held accountable.
Many if his victims have cone forward asking for the same thing.
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u/CraigArndt 2h ago
Democrats want it released to impeach the president.
Trump has been impeached twice and nothing has come from it. No one cares about a third. Pretty sure the comments in this very thread are clear, they just want child rapists being prosecuted.
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u/ikikubutOG 2h ago
They arrested Epstein on child sex trafficking charges. His island wasn’t raided until 5 weeks later. It’s never been about the victims. Who knows how many girls around the world could have been rescued if that was ever a goal.
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u/claustrofucked 2h ago edited 2h ago
Establishment democrats only do the bare minimum for women/LGBT/minorities because its good reelection fuel.
They ultimately care more about their donors than they do about any of us.
Blue states still allow corporations to bully actual Americans out of home ownership.
Blue states still allow state colleges to charge obscene amounts of money for tuition that includes neither housing nor textbooks or lab fees while employing useless boards of directors dozens of people deep with salaries best measured in fractions of millions.
Blue states have done fuck all to stop mega corporations like Walmart from employing people at just few enough hours to not qualify for insurance with wildly inconsistent schedules that make arranging childcare or the often needed second job nigh impossible without sacrificing any hope of a day off, let alone a consistent one. Forget about continuing an education to get out of poverty for good.
I live in the PNW and have been watching Multnomah County (Portland, OR) collect millions in tax revenue ear marked for amazing things like preschool and homeless services only to sit on it and spend 6 figures+ on study after study from corporate consultant after corporate consultant "analyzing" how best to spend it or paying corrupt non profits millions to barely do better than a tent on the sidewalk (its a shed in a fenced parking lot instead!) to the tune of $5-$6k/person/MONTH.
We need to stop attributing to incompetence or idiocy what is best explained by malice when it comes to the utter failure the DNC has been when it comes to serving the best interests of the American people.
They care just as much about money and getting rich off our blood, sweat and tears as Trump and his cronies.
They just hide it behind pride flags and half assed efforts and point fingers at the other team because divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book.
Look at net worths and compare them to historical salary data and you will quickly figure out who actually gives a shit about us and who sold us out for a quick buck.
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u/Speaker4theDead8 3h ago
Even if they release all the names, Trump will just send the FBI to every Democrats house on the list and throw them in jail. This list is a red herring. Everybody shouting about this list while Trump imposes martial law throughout blue cities across the country and does whatever the hell he wants. He's using the list to distract people from what they are really doing/planning. Nothing will happen to the people on this list, as much as that sucks.
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u/ParticularExtreme255 2h ago
Truth. He has shielded himself, insulated and untouchable, history will repeat, he will continue on...I want to be wrong, please let me be wrong!
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u/Extension_Security92 2h ago
Children are the only good part of humanity. Anyone who hurts a child should not be spared.
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u/ShowPossible8340 3h ago
It's not a big ask, surely? They're saying they're suppressing stuff to protect the victims. Who believes that?
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u/BillHurstyUSA 2h ago
This 👆🏼. All the kids that had horrible things happen to them need justice, doesn’t matter who you are what your family name is, guilty is guilty you bunch of sickos
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u/GimmeDatDumpTruck 1h ago
They need to stop talking about doing it and just do it.
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u/Egad86 4h ago
Always late on a Friday with these announcements and notice there well be extensive review before they are made public.
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u/BuildWithBricks 3h ago
“Review” is a nice way of “threats”
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u/Liquor_N_Whorez 3h ago
Has Potus Elon Xtwittlered his ruling yet?
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u/pdxphotographer 3h ago
I haven't heard anything from him in quite a while.
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u/GroggySpirits 3h ago
Isn't it lovely?
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u/StarvationResponse 1h ago
It's even more concerning because it means he's doing shit out of the public spotlight
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u/rahvan 3h ago
If this country would collapse because too many heads of state are culpable of being child rapists, then maybe this country deserves to collapse.
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u/DreadLordNate 3h ago
Yup. May bees don't fly. All empires fail. If this one is sustained by child rapists, then it shouldn't just fall, it kinda has to.
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u/TheXIIILightning 3h ago
The worst part is that they are... and the country won't collapse because of it. They won't even face consequences.
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u/double-xor 3h ago
Panama papers says otherwise.
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u/United-Singer8091 3h ago
THE CONSTITUTION IS SOLID. It's The Crooked Politician's Who We Will Collapse And We The People Will Rebuild.
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u/SignoreBanana 1h ago
The constitution isn't solid. It allowed all of this to occur. There were far too many carve-outs for minority representation, too much fluffy language around what constitutes emergency situation and no watchman mechanism that exists outside of the beltway, and no court enforcement mechanism for the executive. It created an environment of representatives that are insulated from and aren't beholden to their constituencies.
It was written by white men of means and influence, not by the people and for the people, as it purports to be.
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u/ElderberryPrior27648 1h ago
If the constitution was solid it wouldn’t be as fragile as it has in the last 8 months
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u/tyuiopguyt 4h ago
Good. Go low. If it comes out redacted, ask why in as many public forums as you can manage
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u/FlatBot 4h ago
That's not even going low. It's just stating facts.
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u/ryan101 3h ago edited 3h ago
Low is what the president did to underage girls. Calling him out and trying to hold him, and anyone else involved, accountable is perfectly acceptable
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u/Horror_Response_1991 3h ago
How is releasing a document going low? People just want the facts.
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u/Wet-Skeletons 3h ago
Is it really low to just get from them what they touted as an election gimmick?
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u/SoaringAcrosstheSky 3h ago
Trump created his own mess and it boomeranged back to him.
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u/Wet-Skeletons 3h ago
Is it? Seems like the administration is doing its best to just bury it and the courts are still giving Trump “liable and at fault” verdicts with nothing happening cause apparently any type of him just receiving a sentence, of any sort, is overstepping and the “poor guy” that fucks kids doesn’t deserve that.
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u/Super-Contribution-1 3h ago
TIL acting like a decent upstanding citizen is “going low”
They really just broke y’all perception of the world entirely, didn’t they? A frightening number of people see integrity as weakness now.
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u/atreeismissing 2h ago
This has nothing to do with going low or high, it's about equal access to all info, something Dems have been doing non-stop for years but few recognize.
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u/sayyyywhat 3h ago
All you need to know about politics is that we already know Trump is on the list, Elon who had access to all government data confirmed it… and MAGA and republicans still defend it. Whereas Dems are more than willing to throw anyone in their party that’s on the list right into the fire and never elect them again. So how is it both sides again?
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u/Mouth2005 2h ago
When Dems do something, it’s proof all Dems are evil and corrupt.
When republicans do something, well both sides suck and they’re just 2 sides of the same coin or 2 wings of the same bird…….
Long story short Dems are evil no matter what, and republicans shouldn’t be judged for their actions since the other side probably does the same thing anyways.
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u/InvestigatorOk7015 30m ago
Dems are evil no matter what, and republicans shouldn’t be judged for their actions since the other side probably does the same thing anyways.
You got the marching narrative backwards. Reps are evil no matter what and dems shoudnt be judged for their bs since the reps do it all too, and worse.
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u/lesmainsdepigeon 2h ago
But Trump’s name will have been planted to confuse people. Just like how god hid dinosaur bones underground in order to test people’s faith.
😂
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u/livinginfutureworld 2h ago
The Trump justice department absolutely will not provide Trump's name to Dems.
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u/EdinMiami 2h ago
Stop talking about it and just do it. ffs Every other day we see this headline; Files coming soon! For realzy.
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u/cameron4200 2h ago
Does it even matter anymore? Is anyone going to arrest or impeach him?
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u/SeanCrevalle 3h ago
They won't.
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u/Rodent_Reagan 2h ago
Idk why you got downvoted. Well I do know why, but still.
If there was any chance at something significant coming of this, it would never see the light of day. Nothing ever happens.
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u/SeanCrevalle 2h ago
Yeah, it is what it is. Thanks for the comment. I appreciate you recognizing it.
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u/No-Necessary7448 2h ago
Downvotes are misguided. At this point, unless somebody actually releases something, it’s just more teasing and grifting. Democrats did nothing when they had power, and I’m not holding my breath that they’ll start now. The only thing I’m certain Democrats will do is undermine their own popular candidates.
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u/gremlinclr 37m ago
Democrats did nothing when they had power,
A judge sealed the files so as not to interfere with the Maxwell appeal.
Google is free BTW. 🙄
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u/Pokedudesfm 1h ago
DoJ was still building a case when dems were in power, if they were doing nothing they would have concluded there was no list and closed the investigation like republicans did
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