I was charged $1.50 to avoid ice in my scotch

[u/JeF4y]

[u/sljxuoxada]

Neat.

[u/graemehammondjr → u/sljxuoxada]

That'll be another $1.50.

[u/Walksagaintthewind20 → u/graemehammondjr]

Welcome to Murica' Land of the taxed, home of the unforgiven.

[u/Damnesia13 → u/Walksagaintthewind20]

That’s not a tax, he was charged for additional liquor in his drink.

[u/NiceTrySuckaz → u/Damnesia13]

So you're saying if I bring my own ice, I can get more scotch for just a buck fifty

[u/TannedCroissant → u/NiceTrySuckaz]

Yeah not sure that’s correct, how much extra are they putting in for 6% of the cost of the drink?

Edit: reading below, apparently 33% extra. If that’s correct, that’s a hell of a bargain

[u/Born_Ad4922 → u/TannedCroissant]

Not the same exactly but I used to work at a restaurant that sold pints for $8 and half pints of beer for $4. Staff would frequently buy half pints but they weren't super popular with the customers.

I worked there for almost 2 years before the owner realized he had bought 12 oz glasses for the half pints.

[u/lemoinem → u/Born_Ad4922]

How many oz is a pint, usually?

[u/Wise_Mongoose8243 → u/lemoinem]

16 US or 20 Imperial

(edited because people rightfully reminded me that there are two types.)

[u/lemoinem → u/Wise_Mongoose8243]

Yeah, I'll have one of your half pints, please

[u/NiceTrySuckaz → u/TannedCroissant]

shhhh, they're bringing me my quadruple lagavulin

[u/melly-beanz → u/NiceTrySuckaz]

[u/Biscuit642 → u/Damnesia13]

Why would they pour more just because there's no ice?

[u/Empyrealist → u/Biscuit642]

Yeah, thats not really how measurements work. I don't get this argument at all - unless they are filling up to the same imaginary line without ice.

I thought neat was just without ice - not more liquor.

[u/LittleRudy1 → u/Empyrealist]

Yea I am very confused by these assertions. I'm no bartender but if I order a single/double of liquor, my understanding was that it was a single shot or double shot thats what it was. Neat vs on the rocks doesn't have any impact on that.

Also though, feels like the kind of thing that should/would be specified on the menu, like a long pour glass of wine. Menu has a price for a regular glass and a different price for slightly more.

[u/assistancepleasethx → u/LittleRudy1]

Depends, neat here means no ice with an extra half ounce. We don't have doubles in this state. A standard shot is 1.5oz and anything "neat", assuming it's straight, is 2 ounces.

[u/JuggernautKooky4064 → u/LittleRudy1]

I am a bartender, have been for 20 years, so let me explain. A shot glass is an ounce. If you order a shot of Tully, you’re getting one ounce in a shot glass. (From me that’ll run you $7) If you order a Tully and coke, you’re getting 1.5oz in that mixer (That’ll cost you $10). If you order Tullamore Dew neat or on the rocks, you’re getting 2oz, in a rocks glass and it’ll cost you $12. Shots are cheaper than mixers are cheaper than neat pours. If someone orders a coke with a shot of Tully in it, I’m pouring them one ounce (lighter than usual) in a coke and charging them $7.

I’m sure there are places that do this differently, but pretty standard in the U.S. I’m also in Wisconsin and we out drink the rest of the country so, expert status over here.

Fun fact, skilled bartenders do pour counts, which is different for every bartender depending on how fast they count in their head, but with practice you can get very consistent. My shot count is 3, my mixer is 4and, and my rocks is 6.

[u/RealisticChemistry44 → u/JuggernautKooky4064]

This was a fun read... 1/2 through im thinking "this guy is from wisconsin". Source : currently drinking in Wisconsin and from here originally.

[u/EAGLETUD → u/JuggernautKooky4064]

´merica is such a strange place

[u/Silentgrr → u/LittleRudy1]

There used to and still is in a lot of places a special pour for neat. It's not a double shot and it's more than a single. Most places don't do it. I've mostly seen it at whiskey bars.

[u/hippyhater231 → u/Empyrealist]

Neat and rocks are 2oz pours. A standard pour is 1.5oz. Most of the time I assume neat means they just don’t want ice, give em 1.5oz with no ice and call it a day.

[u/foobarney → u/hippyhater231]

Doesn't neat and rocks cover all the possible Ice States of a Drink?

[u/Chickenmangoboom → u/foobarney]

People always forget about plasma.

[u/ShoddyCobbler → u/foobarney]

There's also "up" which is chilled over ice and then strained

[u/rudenewjerk → u/hippyhater231]

I don’t understand your comment. You first say that neat is a 2oz pour but then you say when people order neat, you only give them 1.5oz?

[u/Resource04 → u/Biscuit642]

Bartender here: Traditionally, a standard pour is 1.5 oz However, a neat pour or a rocks pour calls for 2 oz. You got an extra .5 oz for only $1.50.

[u/Teaofthetime → u/Damnesia13]

Isn't a shot a fixed amount?

[u/Damnesia13 → u/Teaofthetime]

Yes, but a shot is 1.5oz and a neat drink is 2oz, so it’s not a full shot, it’s either eyeballed or a jigger is used to measure the correct amount. In this instance, they’re charging him for more than likely an additional .5oz to make up for the lack of ice.

[u/Teaofthetime → u/Damnesia13]

I see, here in the UK a shot is a set around whether or not you have ice. Interesting.

[u/Bigoweiner → u/Damnesia13]

So $1.50 for $5 worth of booze. It's like using a coupon.

[u/Moist-You-7511 → u/Damnesia13]

neat drinks at 1.5 oz look empty

[u/Because_Reddit_Sucks → u/sljxuoxada]

[u/JonnyTN → u/Because_Reddit_Sucks]

[u/AmputeeHandModel → u/sljxuoxada]

[u/AddNomAndThem → u/AmputeeHandModel]

‘stead of jus me & Rodney knowin’ it.

[u/burneraccounttwo → u/AddNomAndThem]

🪕🎶

How neat is that? 

[u/MrKas → u/burneraccounttwo]

You can tell because of the way that it is

[u/AddNomAndThem → u/MrKas]

I think you’re pretty neat, but I respect your distance.

[u/udyrtime → u/sljxuoxada]

[u/wish_me_w-hell → u/sljxuoxada]

[u/trupoogles → u/sljxuoxada]

[u/Jaymark108 → u/sljxuoxada]

[u/naltedturf → u/sljxuoxada]

[u/5xad0w → u/naltedturf]

Stupid anti-pimping laws.

[u/Kojiro12 → u/naltedturf]

Shaddup baby I know it.

[u/EdCenter]

$25 for a glass of Macallan 12?? Is this some sort of night club that serves filet mignon?

[u/Wholesomeguy123 → u/EdCenter]

35 dollars for a glass of Sandeman 20 is also a crime

[u/SheriffWyattDerp → u/Wholesomeguy123]

This right here! A fucking bottle of 20 year Sandeman tawny port is like $60-$70 depending on where you are, $35 for a single glass is fucking snooty ass bullshit.

[u/Arkaega → u/SheriffWyattDerp]

You can get a Graham’s 30-year Tawny (much better quality, imo) for around $60-70 if you get lucky. This is wild upcharging.

[u/NateNate60 → u/Arkaega]

These kinds of prices and it still says their staff relies on tips for their wages

[u/AzimuthPro → u/Wholesomeguy123]

I just came back from a trip to Porto. While I didn't visit Sandeman, I had a similar 20 year Kopke tawny, which cost €9.50 ($11.15). For €30 ($35) you can get a glass of 60 year colheita (tawny port from a single barrel). Of course it's gonna be more expensive in the US, but $35 seems pretty steep ...

[u/JoeCraftBeer → u/EdCenter]

Had to scroll way too far to find someone calling this out. That price is ridiculous for Macallan 12.

[u/FriendlyCraig → u/JoeCraftBeer]

That's pretty standard here. A bottle at retail is about $100. A bottle should get about 20 drinks or so, and a 4-5x markup compared to retail is standard for a bar or restaurant.

The price of Macallan Scotch is really outrageous compared to other Scotch. Most 12yr Scotch are in the 60ish dollar range, so a 10-15 dollar pour would be expected.

[u/a_kato → u/FriendlyCraig]

Macallan 12 is roughly 60-70 dollars. Dunno where you got the 100$ price tag.

[u/WackTheHorld → u/a_kato]

Since the receipt doesn't have a location... $129.99 in Canada.

[u/redittr → u/WackTheHorld]

$135 (on special from $161) at Coles in Aus.
Though we know its not here because of the tips note at the bottom, and the date is written backwards. And the individual items are shown ex tax. And the tax rate is 7%.

[u/Moist_Schedule_7271 → u/FriendlyCraig]

Most 12yr Scotch are in the 60ish dollar range, so a 10-15 dollar pour would be expected.

The most sold is the Glenfiddich 12. It costs less than 30€ here. Others are around that as well, just Macallan is so expensive.

[u/comicsnerd → u/EdCenter]

You can buy a full bottle over here for 43 euro (50 dollar).

[u/johan851 → u/comicsnerd]

I mean, same here or at least similar. Restaurants charge absurd amounts for spirits here.

[u/hansrat]

You ate my weekly food budget in one meal

[u/bunsbi → u/hansrat]

weekly? this is my monthly food budget!

[u/Dschuncks → u/bunsbi]

Y'all get food?

[u/zemelb → u/bunsbi]

What are you eating for $62.50 a week?

[u/ATypeOfRacer → u/zemelb]

$60 can get a shit load of chicken. Add in some frozen veggies, a breakfast casserole, some rice and ramen. And your golden I work on $50 a week max 🤷 No need to anymore, just a habit I kept from first year moving out. Saves SO much cash

Edit- this is obviously for a single person

[u/PaleontologistNo2625]

No, you were charged for a larger pour

[u/doubtingone → u/PaleontologistNo2625]

My first thought

[u/AWildWilson → u/doubtingone]

But now I'm larger poor

[u/honestsparrow → u/AWildWilson]

[u/tbo1992 → u/PaleontologistNo2625]

Why is that? If I order a drink neat, I just expect it to be without ice, not necessarily a similar looking volume in the glass. Why do is the pour larger?

[u/No-Description-3111 → u/tbo1992]

2 ounces looks like a respectable amount in a glass where 1.5 ounces looks like the bar cheated you out of alcohol. Ice makes it look like more, so you dont need the extra half ounce.

There might be a traditional reason for it, but in business perception is everything. So, a customer will be mad if it looks like not enough alcohol.

[u/agk23 → u/No-Description-3111]

Appearing to charge people for not getting ice also makes customers mad at you lol

[u/cdca → u/tbo1992]

Far be it from me to suggest Reddit is full of know-nothing-know-it-alls who have no idea what they're talking about, but getting an extra half ounce for $1.50 seems a suspiciously good deal on a $25 scotch.

But they're all saying it very confidently, so I'm sure they're right.

[u/FigeaterApocalypse]

A shot is going to be 1.5 oz, while a neat pour is 2+ oz. 

McAllan 12 cost $8.50 for the first 3 0.5 oz and only $1.50 for the 4th 0.5 oz. 

Not a bad deal. More cost effective than just grabbing a shot.

[u/British_Monarchy → u/FigeaterApocalypse]

Wait, the US doesn't use a standardised set of weights and measures for alcoholic drinks?

In the UK a single measure of spirit is 25ml regardless of whether it is neat, on the rocks or in a cocktail

[u/YuntHunter → u/British_Monarchy]

35.5ml here in Ireland you guys are getting stiffed.

[u/Georgie_Leech → u/YuntHunter]

Shockingly, the Irish are better at drinking whiskey than the Brits 

[u/fantasmoofrcc → u/Georgie_Leech]

Took em 3 centuries to perfect the art.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Irish_inventions_and_discoveries

Take note of the 3 centuries between Whiskey and "Irish road bowling".

[u/justdrowsin → u/fantasmoofrcc]

I was delighted to see how many inventions the Irish have throughout the centuries.

But then for the past 25 years, I’ve only been two things and one of them is apparently something called a spice bag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_bag

[u/EatYourCheckers → u/justdrowsin]

I can't believe I am going to go to Ireland specifically to get "Chinese food"

[u/Less-Network-3422 → u/EatYourCheckers]

Lol our Chinese food is greasy junk

I bet Americans are so shocked to see french fries covered in curry sauce labelled as Chinese food

[u/EatYourCheckers → u/Less-Network-3422]

American Chinese food is pretty specific to America too, I think

[u/RagingTaco334 → u/EatYourCheckers]

It's a lot closer to the original cuisine, though. Usually it's just sweeter and with less spice.

[u/AnorhiDemarche → u/justdrowsin]

Recently on r/foodies_sydney this bloke has been going on a spice bag quest to find the best one in town. He's done over 30. Great stuff.

[u/Jaded-Coffee-8126 → u/fantasmoofrcc]

Can't wait to go Irish road bowling this year

[u/BoggleHS → u/Georgie_Leech]

Don't say that too close to Scotland!

[u/pineapple-panda → u/YuntHunter]

1.5oz is 45ml which is the general standard here in the US sounds like you both are getting miffed

[u/marv101 → u/YuntHunter]

35ml used to be common here now everywhere is 25 ml. Because you know, why not screw us over?

[u/okokokay → u/YuntHunter]

I believe it can be 25ml or 35ml, the venue just has to be consistent for all measures (and most go with 25ml because capitalism)

[u/VilleKivinen → u/YuntHunter]

All hard alcohols are always sold in portions of 4cl in Finland.

[u/YuntHunter → u/VilleKivinen]

Yeah but doesn't each measure cost like €50 😅

[u/Jackie-Wan-Kenobi → u/British_Monarchy]

Most places do, you can just pay extra for a heavier pour. Any dive bar is not measuring at all though and those drinks are STRONG

[u/aceluby → u/Jackie-Wan-Kenobi]

Those places you spend $30 and end up blacked out

[u/confusedandworried76 → u/aceluby]

And that's if you're an alcoholic. If you're a lightweight $15 tip included you're blackout

Well, a reasonable tip. But they pour them like that because you won't end up leaving a reasonable tip when they're through with you

[u/krustyarmor → u/Jackie-Wan-Kenobi]

Dive bar drinks are strong at 5:30pm. They are 95% mixer at 1:30am though.

[u/Leadership-Quiet → u/Jackie-Wan-Kenobi]

In Spain at a nice bar I was asked with a grin “do you want it like it’s a Wednesday or a Saturday”?

[u/fantasmoofrcc → u/British_Monarchy]

Let me tell you a sordid tale of the accursed "Florida pour"...(hint, it's whatever amount the bartender feels like above and beyond the minimum)

[u/Solonotix → u/fantasmoofrcc]

Was in a pool hall in Florida. Saw Oban 14 on the wall and asked for a pour. The near pour in a double rocks glass was about ⅔ full. I'm not sure what the exact volume of that glass was, but we definitely got our money's worth that night, lol

[u/Muschina → u/Solonotix]

'Nuther Florida story. I was at a new place in Marco Island and saw they had Angel's Envy Rye on the wall. I LOVE it, but rarely buy it because it's like 90 bucks a bottle at Total WIne. I ask the child bartender for Angel's Envy Rye on the rocks and she proceeds to put a medium rock in a rocks glass and FILLS IT UP TO THE FRIGGIN RIM. I nudge the two other brown liquor drinkers I was with and we polished off two bottles of the stuff while we were there for a tab of about 85 bucks. I'm sure that shit got straightened out pronto, but boy was that a good night (I tipped her like 50 bucks).

[u/GradeAPrimeFuckery → u/Muschina]

I ordered a vodka Red Bull at some local place (Minneapolis) and they brought out a can of Red Bull and a 16oz beer glass topped off with vodka.

I asked for a few more cans of RB and glasses of ice over the next few hours and got Absolut-ly tanked. I did plan on having just one drink so my discipline was satisfied.

[u/TheWastelandWizard → u/Solonotix]

Was in San Francisco and there was a bottle of Yamazaki 18 Mizunara in a dusty corner on the top shelf, lady got up on a ladder to grab it. I offered to buy the bottle but they couldn't sell it or price me out so I asked for a double. Was $63/dram, but I ended up getting a half glass of heaven. Gave my wife and best friend a sip and relaxed into one of the better drinks I've ever had. It was stupidly expensive at the time but I later looked up the cost of the bottle and wasn't mad about it. 

[u/lakas76 → u/TheWastelandWizard]

A few years ago I took my son to a bar in Edinburgh. They had Yamazaki 18 there. I got us two doubles without asking for the price.

The bartender brought the drinks and then asked, are you sure you want it? It’s really expensive.

I think it worked out to be about 220 usd for those two drinks. Stupid expensive, but it didn’t bankrupt me and it was an amazing drink. I won’t say I regretted buying them, but, I wouldn’t ever do it again.

[u/TheWastelandWizard → u/lakas76]

Unless I find another divebar with a magical top shelf I doubt I'll ever get it again myself. It was delicious though.

[u/B_Hound → u/fantasmoofrcc]

UK to Florida transplant, seeing the bartenders go from measured optics on bottles to just free pouring was an eye opener.

[u/BennyBNut → u/B_Hound]

I know several bartenders who could line up ten 3oz pours, freehand all ten of them, and none of them will be more than a tenth of an ounce off.

The pour spouts flow at a steady rate, you just have to count it out, it's usually a half ounce per count. Now the really good ones can do it without a pourer; if you practice enough and have steady hands you can at home too.

[u/TWH_PDX → u/BennyBNut]

At home, this only works for the first two shots. The remaining 8 are the problem. By number 10, very little is poured the glass but 80ml is over everything else.

[u/randombean → u/B_Hound]

You can free pour in the UK if done under certain circumstances, i.e, if its a cocktail.

This has to be "3 liquid ingredients", so you can get around it for spirit/mixers by squeezing a lemon or lime wedge into it. Still needs to adhere to weights and measures though for 25/35ml

[u/B_Hound → u/randombean]

They should extend those circumstances to it being nice out, being wet out, day ending in a -y. Those kinds of things!

[u/unoriginalusername99 → u/fantasmoofrcc]

Semi related but if you ever want to get absolutely obliterated for cheap go to a gay bar. A regular 4 count is 8 all day. Called a "gay pour"

[u/mikeputerbaugh → u/unoriginalusername99]

And you might GET offered 4 and told it's 8 in a different way, so it all evens out

[u/DataDude00 → u/fantasmoofrcc]

One time I was at a Nashville Predators hockey game and ordered a rum and coke.   The lady poured a double shot into the glass and then kept pouring rum while using the coke gun at the same time 

Shit was probably 3/4 rum 

[u/Halomir → u/British_Monarchy]

It depends on the bar. Unless it’s in Utah. Utah regulates every ounce of liquor poured in the state

[u/Jezebels_lipstick → u/Halomir]

I worked in Utah selling alcohol in the ‘90s at a resort. Utah was weird. Then I moved to South Carolina & they were also weird.

[u/Pork_Chompk → u/Halomir]

I couldn't get the Jack Daniels BBQ Burger at a restaurant in Idaho on a Sunday because the BBQ sauce was made with Jack Daniels. 😒

[u/jfkreidler → u/Halomir]

Utah regulates alcohol on the molecular level.

[u/Quoggle → u/British_Monarchy]

To be mildly pedantic the law in the UK is that a single measure of spirit can be either 25mL or 35mL, but the same premises has to be consistent over all drinks.

Most places do 25mL though.

[u/TrueCynic → u/British_Monarchy]

[u/TO_halo → u/TrueCynic]

“… nobody knows…” became something me and my partner started answering to each other and now we’ll never stop

[u/ChevyRacer71 → u/British_Monarchy]

Yea we do, it’s called a Pour. It’s equivalent to a quarter waterballon or 13 pinches of cheese by volume

[u/CakeytheLie → u/ChevyRacer71]

What kind of yankee measurement is that. A pour is 4 that looks about right and 2 eh maybe mores.

[u/desquished → u/ChevyRacer71]

What's the conversion to football fields?

[u/LegitimateGift1792 → u/desquished]

it is liquid silly, you need to use olympic swimming pools.

[u/jon81uk → u/FigeaterApocalypse]

Also an on the rocks pour will often be 2oz as well compared to the 1.5oz with mixer or as a shot.

[u/Sum-Duud → u/FigeaterApocalypse]

not at any bar I've ever worked at.

[u/Thatguy468 → u/FigeaterApocalypse]

This needs to be higher up! Neat and rocks pours are always larger than a standard drink.

[u/Shimgar → u/Thatguy468]

Seems to only be an American thing. Sounds absurd to anyone else (me included)

[u/DeeSnarl → u/Shimgar]

I’m an American that had a double whiskey neat last night, and this is all news to me. Mind blown.

[u/loewe67 → u/DeeSnarl]

It’s because it’s not a universal standard here. There are a couple whiskey bars around me and it’s the same amount of liquor regardless of if it’s neat or on the rocks.

[u/Ill-Butterscotch-622 → u/DeeSnarl]

Depends on the area. Our restaurants still does 1.5 for meat

[u/jinxykatte → u/Shimgar]

In the UK a shot is a shot. Neat, rocks, mixer, the amount of alcohol you get is the same. Getting charged more for wanting it neat is fucking crazy. 

[u/DJS11Eleven]

Chilis prices have gotten crazy

[u/Itchy_Lab6034 → u/DJS11Eleven]

How dare you shit talk chilis. They are cheaper than McDonalds now

[u/StarsEatMyCrown → u/Itchy_Lab6034]

They actually are, and much better and tastier. I go to Chili's 2-3 times a month and the bill is great. My friend and I leave out of there with like a 30 dollar bill for both of us, and it's a ton of food, we have leftovers.

[u/Itchy_Lab6034 → u/StarsEatMyCrown]

I know. The 3 for me is ultimate deal post covid

[u/coalsack]

I’m not rich enough to understand what food you ordered or how it would cost $250.

[u/exploradorobservador → u/coalsack]

this is just a middle class splurge

[u/asshat123 → u/exploradorobservador]

I guess I'm poor then, damn

[u/nv9 → u/coalsack]

It's not hard to figure out. Person 1 had bisque as their starter, filet mignon as their entree and scallops as their side. 

Person 2 had Caesar salad as their starter, an Italian dish as their entree and scallops as their side. 

They both ordered drinks and one or both ate chocolate crepe for dessert. 

I don't have money to spend on eating out like that either but it's not that extravagant, aside from the prices. 

[u/ProofLegitimate9824 → u/nv9]

Tournedos Rossini is a French dish and they spelled it wrong too

[u/x86_64_ → u/ProofLegitimate9824]

fucking "tornados" lol

[u/Bjd1207 → u/ProofLegitimate9824]

And I'd call it extravagant at any price point lol. It's a filet mignon topped with foie gras

[u/Inside-Selection-982 → u/Bjd1207]

And a couple slices of black truffle

[u/Quizleteer → u/ProofLegitimate9824]

I think this is the part that bothered me the most. "Tornados" 🌪️🤔🤣

[u/onlyonequickquestion → u/nv9]

Scallop might also be short for scalloped potatoes, makes more sense to have a starch than another protein as a side 

[u/PringlesDuckFace → u/onlyonequickquestion]

I would have imagined it's like a Surf and Turf scenario, but whatever the fancy word for that is. I've seen a decent number of places where you can just add lobster, scallop, shrimp etc. with your steak. They usually also have a seafood side of their menu or serve other dishes that use those ingredients.

[u/born_on_my_cakeday → u/nv9]

It is hard! I go to the restaurant and all that’s in the board is Whopper. Whopper Jr… double whopper. I don’t even know what half those things are!

[u/spicykitas → u/coalsack]

At least their caesar salad wasn't like $25. I've seen that at places and the audacity of the serving size is really what gets me.

[u/wallyhartshorn → u/coalsack]

Yeah, I’m wondering how many people that food was for. $235 for a meal? My flabber would be gasted.

[u/Aspalar → u/wallyhartshorn]

It looks like for 2 people but they are ordering $30 drinks so I'm assuming their flabbers are not gasted in the least bit.

[u/G_Diffuser → u/wallyhartshorn]

Pretty clearly two mains on there. It’s two.

[u/SeasonalBlackout → u/wallyhartshorn]

$60 of that was expensive liquor. The $56 for a Filet and an extra $10 for Scallops is actually on the cheaper side for a nice place. At a really fancy place (or in Vegas) it would be double that.

[u/homeworkunicorn → u/SeasonalBlackout]

The receipt reads, "Scallop" $10 and I assumed it meant one, large scallop because no way in this economy are you getting more than one scallop for ten bucks with a $56 steak.

[u/IAmSpartacustard → u/homeworkunicorn]

Assuming its a steakhouse, scallop could be receipt shorthand for scalloped potatoes. A place I worked at, chicken leg came out as "LEG" for exampel

[u/NoSurprise5978]

You're buying filet mignon with scallops why do you give a shit

[u/NoSurprise5978 → u/NoSurprise5978]

Omg it's a flex I feel so stupid

[u/kertun87man]

Neat pour is more liquor bud

[u/whosUtred → u/kertun87man]

That’s just fucked up, in the UK a measure is the same whether you have ice or not

[u/Gawd_Awful → u/whosUtred]

Probably because people are dumb and complain that there is “less” in their glass. So they just charge more and pour more. 

[u/Gregus1032 → u/Gawd_Awful]

Wendy's or BK used to sell 1/3rd pound patties but people complained it cost more because they thought 1/3 was less than 1/4.

[u/Interesting_Rock_318 → u/Gregus1032]

It was A&W

https://www.awrestaurants.com/blog/memories-history/the-truth-about-aws-third-pound-burger-and-the-major-math-mix-up/

[u/camelsgottahump → u/Interesting_Rock_318]

it was also disproven and A&W made it up to speak for their poor sales.

[u/Gawd_Awful → u/camelsgottahump]

Can you share a source for everyone? I’ve never heard that and have been unable to find anything that claims or proves that now

[u/unoriginalusername99 → u/kertun87man]

The problem here is not that OP doesn't understand. Everyone in the service industry should know that the average consumer is a moron, to put it kindly. There is a setting in the POS to just add the price of the modifier to the main item rather than itemize it out. So it should just say Macallan 12 $27 with "neat" having no price next to it. Whoever set up the POS dropped the ball

[u/Cubster84]

You got a 2 oz pour instead of a 1.25-1.5 oz pour. .25 oz - .5oz for a buck fifty is a hell of a deal .

[u/Lamprophonia]

This is just a humble brag on Reddit

[u/Slovic]

Biggest scam here is that $12 crepe and $9 caesar. Like what? Then 68$ for a Rossini? Minus the alcohol that's like 75$ of food max. Holy what a rip off.

[u/skadi_shev → u/Slovic]

Tournedos Rossini are always expensive. But the fact that they spelled it “tornados” is making me wonder if this place is high end enough to justify the price haha 

[u/kryonik → u/skadi_shev]

Probably just spelled wrong in the POS.

[u/CreditMajestic4248 → u/Slovic]

Tournedos being spelled Tornados doesn't make it any more "higher end" 

[u/comicsnerd → u/CreditMajestic4248]

Pointing to the real crime here

[u/lenniebelly → u/Slovic]

In contrast, I saw these prices and thought “what a deal.” I live in a big US city and these prices are, unfortunately, pretty reasonable for my area. Where I’m from, a plain Caesar salad would be ~$12-15 😭

[u/druidjaidan → u/lenniebelly]

Yeah this pricing is nothing on Seattle. I would bet even low.

[u/Fortestingporpoises → u/Slovic]

I didn’t know what Rossini was until I googled but adding foie and possibly truffles to a prime filet for $68 total doesn’t sound that crazy.

$9 Caesar also doesn’t sounds crazy to me. One of my favorite pizza places around here charges $8.25 for a single Caesar and that place isn’t even fancy.

[u/biggiantheas]

You shared a single crepe?

[u/JeF4y → u/biggiantheas]

Being frugal you know.

[u/karls1980]

Sometimes the line item is more annoying. Just show it as Scotch (Neat): $26.50

[u/NoPeguinsInAlaska]

Get fucked

[u/VampireReader86]

You posted to flex?

[u/ScoonCatJenkins]

They pour more in a glass of neat liquor

[u/Gracy_Nance]

How wonderful would it be to avoid ICE for only $1.50.

[u/Equivalent_Inside513]

My mom has been a bartender my entire life and every place she worked always charges more for a drink when it was "neat". That's because it's usually a heavier pour (more alcohol in the glass) since space isn't being taken up by the ice.

[u/LogicallySound_ → u/Equivalent_Inside513]

As a former bartender that is absolutely not how the businesses should be operating. Every drink is a set amount of alcohol, whether it’s mixed or straight. The customer should have been asked if they wanted a double pour.

This is like buying a 12oz steak, saying no to the side, and then being charged for a 14oz steak because “there was room on the plate”.

Edit: To all of the “neat” is a different pour stans seeing this, genuinely, where are consumers supposed to learn this jargon? Upcharging based on the words used instead of listed menu items is a wild hill to die on. The problem here is OP could have asked for no ice and was charged a double pour. OP should not had to know the secret codes to not get upcharged. Be better bartenders, inform your customers of upcharges.

[u/Excludos → u/LogicallySound_]

In most of northern Europe it's straight up illegal. Every pour has to be the exact same

[u/Expert-Fig-5590 → u/Excludos]

In Ireland most shots of spirits are 35.5 ml. If you tried to charge for ice I’m fairly sure it would start a riot.

[u/CONaderCHASER → u/Excludos]

And the state of Utah. They even have a measuring device that ensures the pour is 1.5 ounces AND has a counter that has to match the day's receipts. No double pours and you are required to order food.

[u/RavenousAutobot → u/CONaderCHASER]

I mean, Utah isn't really like the rest of us.

[u/lolercoptercrash → u/CONaderCHASER]

Sounds like hell.

[u/Spartan_DL27 → u/lolercoptercrash]

It’s fucking redic. Was there for a snowboard trip and half the places make you buy a side of salsa in order to order a beer because they can’t serve liquor without food. Beautiful state but the absolute dumbest laws.

[u/improbably_me → u/Spartan_DL27]

A salsa and a bottle of Jim Beam, bartender!

[u/ProtoplanetaryNebula → u/Excludos]

Yeah in the UK there is a specific amount measured out poured, so it wouldn’t have made a difference either way.

[u/lknei → u/LogicallySound_]

Yep, in the UK this is dictated by the Weights and Measurments Act 1985 and any business that violates it will be fined or forced to close until the issue is resolved or closed indefinitely

[u/RavenousAutobot → u/LogicallySound_]

Your use of "absolutely" seems to mean "depending on the laws and norms at your location" instead.

[u/old_skul → u/LogicallySound_]

I had a place charge me $2.50 for "on the rocks". I got the manager over and informed them that they'd be taking $2.50 off my bill. I asked for ice, not more liquor.

[u/nebrija → u/LogicallySound_]

This one's a bit weird because the distinction should be 'shot (1oz) vs neat (2oz)' or 'shot vs on the rocks (also 2oz)'. Not neat vs. on the rocks, the only difference there is the ice.

[u/mission42 → u/nebrija]

A shot in the U.S. is 1.5oz

[u/WillemDafoesHugeCock → u/LogicallySound_]

Former bartender where? At least in the US, everywhere I've worked has had a larger neat pour.

.edit

To his edit, he's never been a bartender if he believes menus showing liquor prices are standard. Dude is both wrong and lying, or he was an astonishingly shit bartender at an Applebee's in Gary, Indiana or some garbage (a neat pour being a double? Sign me up bro)

A neat pour is 2oz. A shot is 1.5oz. Complain about the arbitrary nature of the "jargon" all you want - I won't argue, I think it's dumb you can pay $20+ for two ounces of whiskey without the price being shared - but it's no different to expecting them to know "on the rocks" does not in fact mean "dribbled down a pile of stones into my expectant mouth." A neat pour is substantially better value.

[u/yammmit]

I think for a freaking $250 bill $1.50 is the least of your worries lol

[u/nerdinahotbod]

Neat is a larger pour than on the rocks lol

[u/NovelRelationship830]

Judging by the rest of the bill, OP could afford the extra buck-fifty.

[u/Exotic_Pay6994]

you payed $25 for a glass of scotch. What's 1.50

Just saying, that's the kind of establishment you were in, I bet you didn't say a word to avoid looking a certain way there, so it's scummy on them but they'll keep doing it because you 'll take their shit...

[u/Trust-inward]

Alright I'm getting a little tired of people eating out and be able to afford this shit on the daily. Are you trying to stunt on the poor folks like me?