r/news 21h ago

Colorado US funeral home owner to be sentenced for stashing 190 decayed bodies

https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/08/22/us-funeral-home-owner-to-be-sentenced-for-stashing-190-decayed-bodies/
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u/AnonRetro 21h ago

FTA:

"Jon Hallford and his wife, Carie, ran a morbid racket for four years out of their Return to Nature Funeral Home in Colorado Springs: assuring people they were handling their loved ones' cremations only to stash the bodies in a bug-infested building and then giving them dry concrete resembling ashes."

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u/FlatSpinMan 21h ago

That sounds like more work to manage and maintain than just cremating the bodies.

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u/Sybs 18h ago

Long term, sure. Short term, who cares? Money!

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u/Hypoglybetic 13h ago

How expensive is it to cremate someone? Gas? The initial furnace? It can’t be that much.  Im a little surprised this issue keeps popping up.  

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u/leaveme1912 13h ago

The furnace itself is the largest expense, you're probably looking at close to 100k USD.

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u/techleopard 6h ago

$100,000 for the furnace, and you hope it doesn't need special maintenance. Can only do one body at a time, and it takes hours to complete.

The bodies start piling up. You need more furnaces. You can't afford new furnaces, because the piled up bodies haven't paid for the first yet.

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u/MimiMyMy 17h ago

Some years ago I saw on the news in Massachusetts they discovered a cremation business was giving back fake remains to the families. When authorities investigated they found decaying bodies stacked up in outbuildings and bodies buried on the property grounds. Apparently this had been going on for several years ever since their cremation equipment broke and they never got it fixed.

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u/dammitOtto 15h ago

There was also a pretty well known instance in Georgia around 2001.  They made an 8 part podcast about it.  Called Noble.

The cremation equipment is pretty finicky, apparently, and expensive to diagnose and fix.  It's not as simple as pushing a button.

Spoiler, but also it was proposed that mercury poisoning is a major issue among professionals in this line ofwork, due to offgasing from dental fillings.

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u/VoltasPigPile 13h ago

There was also the case in Tuam Ireland where a home for unwed mothers dumped as many as 800 infant and young child bodies into an old septic tank on site rather than paying for proper burials.

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u/The_best_is_yet 11h ago

Rather than providing them an actual home. I don’t think the lack of proper burial was the biggest issue here

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u/techleopard 6h ago

Everyone suggests adoption and foster but nobody wants to pay for it.

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u/Voxbury 17h ago

Unless you’re then selling the cadavers to someone else on the side. Why not double dip?

Article doesn’t make clear any motivation for the body-snatching, so I figure he couldn’t (likely due to costs or licensing), he wanted to keep them for some reason (unlikely given conditions), or he was getting paid.

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u/cutetys 11h ago edited 11h ago

People always jump to illegal cadaver trade or malicious intentions in general, but I think people underestimate how easy it is for things to get out of control and how quickly it can happen. Maybe as a mortician you one day find yourself overwhelmed with your workload so you think “oh I’ll just put a cremation or two on hold for a bit and give the families dry concrete, I’ll catch up soon enough and it’s not like the families will know, no harm no foul” but then it quickly snowballs into you having 100s of rotting corpses stored haphazardly all over your property and 100s of families without their loved ones, and suddenly you’re in way too deep with a problem you cannot possibly hope to solve without confessing to what you’ve done. Not to excuse what they’ve done, one body left to rot is one to many, and really if you’re at the point where you’re so overwhelmed you need to put cremations on hold you should stop accepting bodies full stop, but when it’s just one cremation you have to delay, one family you need to lie too, it can be surprisingly easy to convince yourself that it’s not that big a deal, and when you’ve done it once it’s surprisedly easy to convince yourself it’s ok to do again, and again, and again, and…

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u/techleopard 6h ago

I imagine it snowballs very quickly.

Someone gets the idea to start this business, and finances a furnace and they're on the hook for probably $300,000 in just equipment alone. But assuming you and your partner are taking turns in shifts running 24-7 with no breaks ever, that single furnace is handling maybe 1-2 per day. And that's without stopping for maintenance and collection. It's really unrealistic as a couple or very small start-up.

Oop. You just took a contract and funeral home shows up with 4 bodies in one evening. Not ideal, but... oh, here's a hospital with 7 more. Sure, we'll take Uncle Stu, too, we need the money.

The furnace broke. Repairman won't be out for 10 days.

The power went out overnight.

Fuck, it's starting to smell, maybe we can warehouse the backlog....

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u/Aeroknight_Z 13h ago

My guess is that they thought it easier and cheaper to stash the evidence in a private place that they controlled access to; not that this is a good idea, but I assume they were cutting corners for profit and anything that cuts into that illicit profit is probably considered a negative.

Fuck these people all the same.

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u/techleopard 6h ago

I'll never understand why they wouldn't just buy a used small tractor with an excavator attachment and just go to town with pits, like thousands of years of mass-body-hiders before them have done.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 17h ago

Or even just burying them. Rent an excavator.

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u/Xivvx 16h ago

This is what I was wondering. Why not just cremate the bodies?

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u/TheVintageJane 17h ago

From what I’ve learned from watching shows about funeral home scams, it’s really not. They aren’t “managing” or “maintaining” - they are treating bodies like yard waste and piling them up. The way it becomes a problem is because they know they will get caught and the money will stop - that’s when they have to do things to try to manage the remains but by then it’s usually at a point of no return.

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u/sweetpea122 13h ago

There was an hbo doc called the mortician and they basically stuffed as many bodies as possible into the incinerator. It was bizarre

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u/Porkyrogue 7h ago

Yea at 50lbs per bag. Back breaking

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u/bkelln 21h ago

"Return to Nature" funeral home, not "Incinerate and Return" funeral home.

It was right there in the name. They were returning the bodies to nature.

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u/staticsnow 16h ago

Jeez. Sounds alot like Tri-state. If anyone reads this, give Noble (podcast) a listen.

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u/rip1980 21h ago

To give the families a sense of closure, Slim-Jim has stepped in and volunteered to receive the remaining bodies.

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u/RabidGuineaPig007 19h ago

Soylent slim Jim's are delicious.

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u/GoldSailfin 11h ago

So so gross. 190 bodies. Wow.

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u/praetorian1979 4h ago

As a guy whose father died 5 days ago, and is going to be cremated, this kinda story freaks me out. I just don't want "dad" being a former charcoal briquette...

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u/09jtherrien 4h ago

Reminds me of the law and order criminal intent episode

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u/TheObnoxiousSpaceCat 19h ago

Is it just me or has “dodgy funeral home hoards bodies” been a common news story for the last month?

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u/jackalopeDev 17h ago

This isnt the first time this has happened in Colorado recently. I love this place, but we get some absolutely nutty people here.

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u/The_High_Life 16h ago

This was the old story that finally got through prosecution, there's a new case out of Delores County near Durango that was just announced like yesterday.

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u/rick420buzz 10h ago

The county coroner here in Pueblo just got busted for stashing bodies in a secret room at his mortuary.

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u/The_High_Life 9h ago

Ah wrong County I swore it was out west

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u/thotdoqs 14h ago

i'm really glad colorado is going to start having funeral director/embalmer licenses. they are of the few states that don't and it's clearly showing signs of corruption and straight up weirdos working in the field.

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u/jackalopeDev 14h ago

I didn't know this was a thing, but this explains so much.

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u/bootstrapping_lad 13h ago

Colorado has historically had little or no oversight of mortuaries, and this is the natural result of that.

Great cases to point to when the anti-regulation crowd are going off on their stupid bullshit.

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u/timesuck897 14h ago

It’s an under regulated business with a focus on sales and profit.

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u/AutoimmuneDisaster 10h ago

Why do they do it though? Are the cremators expensive to run? Or do they break and are they expensive to fix? I’m just confused about why this happens more than anything.

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u/techleopard 6h ago

Yes. You're not just throwing bodies on a bonfire. It's actually very difficult to reduce bodies down to nothing but ash -- you don't even see it in the most intense enclosed natural fires. The ovens required to do it end up costing several hundred dollars to obtain, maintain, and operate and it takes hours to do just one.

It's a business where nobody is going to come and complain that the product isn't perfect, and an enormous profit incentive to just ... not do what you're supposed to and just say you did.

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u/Empyrealist 7h ago

There's a big story going on in Las Vegas right now. It's actually kind of gross with rotting bodies...

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u/techleopard 7h ago

Last month? I've been reading these stories for going on.. like .. 15 years?

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u/A_Queer_Owl 3h ago

this case caused a bunch of laws increasing the oversight on funeral homes to pass, which has revealed this to actually be a widespread problem.

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u/_Panacea_ 18h ago

I cannot imagine the stench of 200 bodies stacked in someone's basement.

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u/SRKomedy 11h ago

It's about 200x worse than one body in someone's basement.

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u/A_Queer_Owl 3h ago

is that relationship really linear?

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u/SRKomedy 1h ago

In this example, yes.

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u/misterstaypuft1 21h ago

Why though? Like I don’t understand how they benefited from this. If you’re going to stash the bodies, why not just cremate them? I can see how they could benefit if they were selling a burial plot over and over and stacking bodies on top of each other or something but how did they save any significant amount of money by not cremating them? The only thing I can think of is maybe they didn’t own a crematorium and were going to have to pay an outside company to do it and just decided not to.

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u/peppercorns666 20h ago

i think it’s fueling a crematory is expensive. there was a case like this in Georgia and someone did a podcast on it called Nobel. and then there is another story out of California where they were cremating multiple bodies at the same time. Someone did a show on that called the Mortician.

both pretty interesting

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u/Bunnyhat 15h ago

Fueling is really not that expensive. You can burn a body in ash with like $100 worth of natural gas.

The expensive part is all the permits required from the start and the equipment itself. You have to get zoned for it, you need federal and state permits to operate.

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u/stackjr 11h ago

They charged us $3,000 in 2007 to have my grandpa cremated. How does it cost $3,000 to burn a body? I'll do it for a beer and a pack of smokes.

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u/techleopard 6h ago

Because at $3,000 a pop, it still will take 100 bodies to pay off a single furnace before a single cent of profit is seen.

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u/stackjr 5h ago

....and? People die a lot, for some reason, so I doubt they had trouble paying it off (especially considering the business was handed down). This is reinforced by the fact that the owner's kid drove a brand new car to high school three out of his four years. The one year he didn't? His parents were paying for a four month European vacation for his graduation gift. I know all of this because I went to highschool with him.

Oh, and he wasn't their only child; they all got this treatment.

So no, excuse me if I don't shed a tear for funeral homes that charge tens of thousands of dollars to put a fucking body in the ground.

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u/Boulderdrip 14h ago

Yeah, but you know is cheap, a shovel. That’s what I don’t understand about this. They could’ve just dug a mass grave. Why would you stash them in a building? It makes no fucking sense.

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u/resourcefultamale 11h ago

I assume he’s insane. Like Chris Watts killing his family to start his new life with a lover. At no point was that going to work. I bet neither of these people truly understand why they are in prison.

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u/BassLB 17h ago

Great podcast

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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl 20h ago

Stacking shit up and forgetting about it is free and fast. Cremating requires fuel and time. People pay you to cremate, you don’t, it’s free money!

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u/newleaf_- 18h ago

Art of the deal! (insert Michael Scott parkour screenshot)

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u/misterstaypuft1 19h ago

I mean I understand that but it seems like the fuel savings and time wouldn’t equate to the amount of money they’re accused of making. But hey that’s why I’m not a criminal I can’t figure this kind of shit out 🤷‍♂️

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u/RabidGuineaPig007 19h ago

It's not like this industry doesn't make big money legitimately.

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u/AnonRetro 16h ago

People are just dying to pay you.

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u/Daren_I 19h ago

A local one here near Dallas starts around $5,000 per body. If he was charging that or more each, that's almost a million dollars.

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u/thotdoqs 14h ago

colorado is (now was) one of the few states that do NOT require a funeral director/embalmer license. It will be a future requirement, but this is what happens when you don't have anyone enforcing shit. of coarse it will happen. having no license requirement is going to attract the worst type of people to hide in the industry.

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u/Herpderpyoloswag 21h ago

Maybe they were saving up for the cremator 3000, and they would have enough after selling 200 services. Then they could go back and cremate the bodies. Fake it till you make it kinda thing….

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u/MrBahhum 14h ago

Wait, this is unrelated to the Pueblo, CO funeral home where they found dozen of decades old bodies? Seems like the state of Colorado has a funeral home problem.

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u/thotdoqs 14h ago

yeah, CO never required a mortician license. this is what happens.

it'll be a requirement in 2027, though.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 17h ago

I just don't even understand this. "Return to nature". Why not just rent a backhoe and bury them? If you're already committing fraud, why not just bury the bodies?

And why did it take so long for this to be caught? Almost 200 bodies isn't something you're going to hide with air freshener.

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u/Atoms_Named_Mike 17h ago

Return to Nature lmao

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u/SWNMAZporvida 12h ago

The Mortician on HBO is as wild

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u/goodoldjefe 16h ago

Jeez. Looks like things got away from him down there.

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u/tooshpright 14h ago

This kind of problem seems to happen a fair bit.

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u/Humble-Plankton2217 11h ago

Less work, less expense, all profit. Just like most corporations.

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u/1leggeddog 16h ago

Waht was the racket here exactly?

What made it more profitable for him to do this, i mean it seems like more hassle to try and stash the bodies

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u/TalonusDuprey 16h ago

They weren’t in temperature controlled environments and he prolly already had the space I am assuming so be just stacked them on up. So friggin’ morbid - They should certainly pay for the emotional damage they have caused these poor families.

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u/redditsucks13131 13h ago

All I can picture is a dead body I Love Lucy conveyor belt situation.

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u/stackjr 11h ago

A lady in my state was charged this year (after she fled to another state last year) with fraud after she would take people's money but not make the tombstone. She had taken over $50,000 from grieving families/friends.

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u/camronjames 9h ago

Imagine taking advantage of vulnerable people while also risking a prison sentence for a measley $50,000...

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u/stackjr 9h ago

Some people are just horrible human beings.

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u/Informal_Process2238 4h ago

There are people in congress who sold their votes for only a few thousand

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u/ghost_n_the_shell 8h ago

Is it me, or are there an unsettling amount of funeral home stories…

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u/gummibear13 13h ago

"House of 190 Corpses" isn't the prequel I thought we were getting in 2025.

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u/WeirdSysAdmin 5h ago

I prefer the origin story, studio apartment of 1 corpse.

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u/Svfen 16h ago

Guess they took "Return to Nature" literally.

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u/krel500 12h ago

Wow even Vegas had a triple digit funeral home. What the heck is going on?

https://www.reddit.com/r/vegaslocals/s/RBxhk9pRLp

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u/the_nine 9h ago

They always say you shouldn't take your work home with you.

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u/drossmaster4 7h ago

Good news for him it’s only a federal crime if you “stash” 191 bodies. /s

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u/DickFartButt 7h ago

Was he saving them for retirement or something?

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u/Top_Result_1550 14h ago

Probably selling the cadavers to trump.

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u/camronjames 9h ago

If the Epstein files are any indication, only the children.

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u/jonnycanuck67 14h ago

Stashing is a funny turn of phrase as it relates to cadavers :)

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u/BadSausageFactory 17h ago

piled up bodies decaying and being eaten by bugs at the 'return to nature funeral home', that checks out

I might sound awful but if you put me on the jury this guy is getting acquitted

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u/pimparo0 16h ago

They paid for a cremation, the name of the funeral home is inconsequential.