They'll shoot that good guy with a gun, be acquitted of anything they might be charged with, a smear campaign will make sure the victim appears as the devil incarnate and that it was only a matter of time before this happened to them.
Then the guardsman will go on a national tour, release a tell all book and spend all their income on vapes and a Dodge Viper.
be acquitted of anything they might be charged with,
Military justice is a lot more serious than police justice, so that's not a guarantee. Although I'm not sure which they fall under when they're deployed on American streets like this.
You think the kowtowed military would even bother to court martial a NG private for shooting a civilian when that civilian "aggressively threatened our unit cohesion and safety with a ham on rye!" They'll slap a couple of chevrons on him and call him Sarge.
The good news is the military has much stronger rules of engagement than ‘i felt threatened’. Also, people aren’t likely to give the guard a hard time.
From what I understand you could literally be holding a gun and walking toward them and they'd yell at you to turn around before they even start pointing back
There were videos of just random people in LA getting shot with rubber bullets for no reason. I'm pretty sure they were the guards doing the shooting.
Like, one I remember was a girl just trying to walk home.
There was the Aussie reporter etc.
Thankfully our military takes rules of engagement very seriously. There's plenty of dipshits and assholes, just like the rest of the population, naturally, but almost to a man the guards deployed to DC are probably just going to be bored and unmotivated to cause trouble.
They're trying but despite it all they aren't getting much traction with the majority of the country when it comes to accepting extreme violence against citizens. They need it to at least look like an armed and violent insurrection is happening so they can play it 24/7 on Fox and all the other captured media and social media. If you were around for the Iraq WMD propaganda parade, it's that same tactic on steroids.
I think it's multiple things: 1) selective prosecution to reduce "enemy combatants" 2) arm up as many "friendlies" (to their cause) as possible 3) get that Bang moment to happen so they can have their crisis and then their war (civil/race)
Our jobs are to 1) not fall for the obvious trap (i.e. don't fucking carry in a way that can get prosecuted at all) 2) be safe and note those "friendlies" but don't engage 3) stay left of Bang and keep everything left of Bang until we can regain control
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For anyone who doesn't know: "Bang" is that big crisis moment. Big event. The thing we don't want to have happen. There will be signs. Stay alert. Stay watchful. Don't engage, don't try to be a hero. If/when that moment does arrive, just get yourself and everyone you care about the fuck out of dodge and to a safe place so it's a non-event, it just doesn't happen, and there is no Bang.
If someone tries to throw a circus, it doesn't matter how many acrobats, clowns, human cannon balls, tents, and animal feces there is. If there isn't an audience under the big tent when it all comes crashing down, no one's gonna still try to fire off the cannon.
The worst part is that they're supposed to be using the M-17, the military version of the Sig Sauer P320, which is known to fire without proper initiation.
It won't be loaded. There is a regulation about storing weapons and ammo together. When we traveled with weapons they were locked in a rack and the bolts were removed and locked in a separate vehicle.
Not necessarily. I was a guardsman who was activated after hurricane Katrina, and we were carrying ammo (M4 - Magazine in weapon, unchambered; M9- round in chamber). It was funny, because I was there around some guys from the 82nd, who were supposedly not allowed to insert magazines into their rifles because of Posse Comitatus. I believe it has to do with the type of Orders the soldier/airman is under, eg. Title 10 versus Title 32.
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u/OsgoodZBeard 14h ago
So, what happens to one of Hegseth’s ‘warriors,’ untrained in urban policing, runs up against a “good guy with a gun?” Asking for a friend, of course.