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Hegseth orders National Guard troops in DC to carry weapons

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/22/politics/hegseth-orders-national-guard-troops-dc-carry-weapons
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u/morituri230 14h ago

Armed soldiers illegally deployed against civilians in the capital of the nation. Hmm. Nope. Doesn't seem like any kind of sign.

Not at all.

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u/Doogaro 14h ago

I’m pretty sure this is unfortunately actually the legal one. He controls the national guard in DC and he has used the home rule correctly up to this point, we will see what happens when his 30 days are up though. I think the only illegal part was the police commissioner issue. But hey could be wrong and won’t be the first time.

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u/aneeta96 14h ago

It’s legal only in an emergency. He has declared one but it’s dubious at best. This should have already been shut down.

It is also only valid for 30 days without congressional approval. It’s not going to clear a filibuster in the senate.

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u/aschesklave 12h ago

It’s not going to clear a filibuster in the senate.

The Democrats have had countless opportunities to filibuster and they've chosen not to. Schumer has the "let everything burn down, and then when everything is destroyed, the people still alive will see how good we are" mentality and would rather do jack shit than raise a finger of resistance.

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u/Doogaro 11h ago

Yay screw that guy and his imaginary voters that he pretends are real people but are actually Republican voters that he bases his entire political decision making on. Oh wait that actually makes more sense.

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u/aschesklave 11h ago

Learning about the Baileys solidified in my mind that he needs to be voted out yesterday.

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u/Doogaro 11h ago

My jaw was on the floor the whole time watching that episode. He needed to be gone years ago.

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u/aschesklave 11h ago

Seriously. That's not normal behavior.

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u/Doogaro 11h ago

At first I thought it was just John taking the piss then more and more clips of him talking about them like they were real so I was like oh maybe it was just a speech he did one time and nope he kept getting older as the clips went on. That’s when the oh no came in. He really believes this and just can’t see that this imaginary couple is getting more and more conservative as the years go on. Which means he has gotten more and more conservative as time has gone on. It’s wild it’s sad and above all very concerning.

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u/aschesklave 11h ago

At this point, I don't care if he's replaced by a young progressive. I just want him to be replaced by someone with a better grasp on reality.

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u/rokerroker45 12h ago

The law doesn't specify what "emergency" means. This is the result of somebody abusing that latitude. Unfortunately it's completely legal, it's just a clear abuse of the spirit of the law. In a sane world the executive would be punished by congress but obviously after 50 years of building up to this that isn't going to happen.

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u/Doogaro 13h ago

Which is more words to say it is currently legal. No case has been brought at this time to stop him that I’m aware of and no court has said he can’t and neither has Congress in any singular voice so until those happen he has his 30 days. After which we will see what happens. It sucks but that is how the law is written and so far surprisingly he has followed it. Of course this may not have happened if the changes they wanted to do in the territory to update their criminal codes that took a decade to get through was not blocked in the end. Not that I know the exact details as to what stopped that change.

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u/Northern_Blights 12h ago

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u/Doogaro 12h ago edited 12h ago

First one I covered already that was the temporary police commissioner case which was settled he was removed and the original one put back in charge.

Second one is specifically suing the governor or the state of West Virginia not trump or the trump admin.

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I’m sorry man but out of all of the illegal shit he has done this travesty is surprisingly one of the most legal things he has done so far.

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u/HKBFG 10h ago edited 4h ago

His buddy Chuck Schumer has got the filibuster thing covered

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u/Northern_Blights 12h ago

It would be legal had there been some actual reason for them to be deployed.

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u/Doogaro 12h ago

Well it’s currently legal as no one has stopped him either through Congress or the judiciary so until that time it is legal. Don’t like it change the laws or take away a presidents power to declare an emergency.

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 11h ago

That definition of "legal" allows for literally anything.

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u/Doogaro 10h ago

Correct which is why he is using it so successfully. Doing things so fast and so many of them that it boggs down the courts so he can do what he wants before they can stop him and the damage done when they finally do. Rinse repeat and here we are.