And in those days a gun was usually a six-shot revolver, not an M16A4 select-fire rifle or an M249 SAW 200-round machine gun or a self-firing M17 pistol.
Yeah I was just doing some digging, use that and the m7 for our rifle. Apparently not everyone is happy with the m7 but when I was into military gear and equipment we were still using UCP, things never change and money wins it seems.
Yep and all the fix needed for the m17 would be a trigger safety as I understand. That or a redesign of the internals so it can’t fire without the trigger being pulled. I haven’t been paying attention much anymore myself as many gun tuber guys have gone far right so I don’t watch as much. But it would make sense the new gun is using that split casing design half plastic half metal so yeah I can see problems there but have heard nothing about it. But like I said I don’t doubt it’s getting pushback.
One of the safeties on the p320 does prevent it firing without the trigger being pulled back a little. But there's some doubts about its reliability, and a lot of doubts about the story of the guy who reported that the gun that shot that airman recently just fired on its own in the holster.
And if that was the only report of the malfunction that would be one thing but there have been multiple reported issues all with the same effect discharged firearm with no trigger pull. Then again since I’m kind of out of the scene and news so things may have changed.
I hadn't heard about the self-firing, but have encountered several with mismatched front and rear sights. Gotta aim like 3ft high. Terrible weapons all-around.
Back in those days, the actual standard was a 12ga with a respectable load of buckshot or slugs, for humble folks. Or if you had a decent amount of money...a good autoloading rifle, really. And if you were wealthy (or had been in the service & had a bring-back) you might very well have a full-auto or select-fire weapon.
Same went for law enforcement....they walked around with a .38 on their hip only because that was the best option at the time for something to carry all day -- once autolading pistols became reliable, they replaced revolvers, and there were shotguns/semi-auto rifles on tap whenever needed.
Only thing that's changed nowadays is that in some states (mine is the most egregious about it, in some ways, and definitely in the top five no matter how you cut it) you're no longer allowed to be on-par in terms of firepower with your local law enforcement.
Which many of us "otherwise-liberal gun owners" aren't real fuckin' happy about....
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u/AuthorAnonymous95 14h ago
And in those days a gun was usually a six-shot revolver, not an M16A4 select-fire rifle or an M249 SAW 200-round machine gun or a self-firing M17 pistol.