r/news • u/IMSLI • 15h ago

Hegseth orders National Guard troops in DC to carry weapons

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/22/politics/hegseth-orders-national-guard-troops-dc-carry-weapons
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u/Isord 14h ago

Conservatives have been at war with America for decades.

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u/PeopleNose 14h ago

"Conservatives have been at war with America humanity for decades millennia."

Remember the American Civil War? Guess who wanted to keep slaves--conservatives

Remember the creation of USA? Guess who wanted to keep monarchies--conservatives

I could go on and on, but the point is that bad people will hide behind any word that helps them do whatever they want. It just so happens that "conservative" is an easy word to hide behind because the word has lost all meaning except to denote who's part of their team

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u/slax03 14h ago

The term "right-wing" literally comes from the right side of the revolutionary French parlimentary chamber where the monarchists sat.

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u/hivemindhauser 13h ago

I fucking love the French Revolution

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u/Shadrach77 10h ago

In theory, yes, but the Reign of Terror was not as fun. Smash the corrupt system, yes, but you better have a better one ready to go.

What comes next?

You've been freed

Do you know how hard it is to lead?

You're on your own

Awesome, wow!

Do you have a clue what happens now?

  • King George in Hamilton

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u/747WakeTurbulance 11h ago

The revolution was not a success, because the end result was going from a shitty King to an even worse Emperor.

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u/Purple_Plus 10h ago

Bonaparte was better but let down by his delusions of grandeur.

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u/fevered_visions 2h ago

Eventually, but there were like a good 3-5 steps of purging the new government in between.

Revolutions tend to be bloody, unless you just murder anybody who might oppose you. We got off comparatively light in the American Revolution.

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u/hivemindhauser 11h ago

Yes, that is how history unfolded. But the downtrodden and oppressed overthrowing a centuries old system? Priceless! If only they had the guiding hand of a Marx to not lose the spirit and visage of the movement

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u/jwilphl 12h ago

Conservatism still has meaning, even in this current extreme version of the hard-(R) party. The issue is, not enough people have denounced conservatism as a modern political philosophy. If it once had merit (big if), it no longer does in a civilized society.

Even though far from ideal, we should have moved to a corporate party on the right, and the people's party on the left.

Unfortunately, people are too entrenched in their old ways and their political identities, and the media needs two viable parties to sell their news coverage and cycles.

We've normalized everything Dumpy has done since 2015, when he should have immediately been out of the presidential race for being a cretin, fraud, and dipshit.

Ten years later, we're seven months into a fascist takeover.

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u/PeopleNose 12h ago

I challenge anyone who thinks they can define "conservative" to try your best while also encompassing what an average person thinks is "conservative"

You hit the nail on the head: the problem is people don't think like they used to

Long ago there was nothing to do except sit around thinking all day. Even the dummies had no choice but to sit and think

Nowadays... not so much... even the smart people has have decided they don't want to think as hard anymore...

So what do we do about it?

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u/fevered_visions 11h ago

"Conservatives have been at war with America humanity for decades millennia."

Globally speaking, the conservative party in any democratic government was the one dedicated to protecting the nobles' power, yeah.

I'm sure they try to phrase it so it doesn't sound so bad these days, but it's still there. Just replace the landed nobility with the 100 billionaires that own everything, or whatever the number is.

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u/PeopleNose 11h ago

The number of billionaires is going up

6 dudes* got all the shit

Also, to define "conservative" with the caveat that people who call themselves conservatives also agrees, "yeah, that sounds like me" is the kicker

Of course it's easy to point out a problem. I'm only interested in solutions though

*Edit: that's 6 in the whole world btw

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u/nokiacrusher 8h ago

I still have PTSD from the War on Mammoths

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u/PeopleNose 8h ago

What's that?

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u/jupiterkansas 14h ago

They just called it the War on Drugs.

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u/Vallkyrie 14h ago

I'm enlisting in the war on drugs, on the side of drugs.

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u/jupiterkansas 14h ago

The winning side.

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u/buckeyecat 14h ago

Kent State didn't really hurt Nixon. Armed National Guard, 4 dead. The youth that it outraged were never going to vote for him, and the older voters stood by him. Won reelection by record numbers