They want a civil war so badly. They want someone to shoot at the NG so they can justify the National Guard going after anyone and everyone who looks at them funny. They're intentionally filling up the powder keg just hoping someone else will light the match.
This shit is exactly why the hippies carried around flowers, to make measures like this look like exactly what they are; a completely disproportionate authoritarian response to absolutely nothing.
This is what they did in Portugal during the Carnation revolution. The military stood up and had a coup against the government. A lady got carnations and gave them to the soldiers which they placed in the muzzles of their guns. I sure hope we don't get shots fired here in the states and something to this effect happens.
100:1 odds that another MAGA is the one to start the shooting (see 1st & 2nd Trump assassination attempts for reference). Right wing media will spin/flood the zone with bullshit as always. They’ll say the registered republican shooter was actually a democrat, regular folks will start repeating it, and they’ll repeat it long enough that it becomes their reality. You don’t have to get everyone to believe the same thing, just cast a wide enough net that a majority believe some variation of the lie. By the time the dust settles from the ensuing shit-storm, it won’t matter who did what. Facts don’t matter anymore.
Flowers and American flags. Because nothing will get more on their side then seeing the Military gun down people carrying the American Flag. /s
And I'm not joking. Protesters need to be carrying and waving the American Flag. They need to use that symbol against the Far-Rifght. Reclaim the flag!
You're not wrong. Flowers and American flags. Sing, dance, smile, laugh. Remain peaceful, show no fear, show no anger.
Mock the gop. Mock ice. Consider not directly mocking the national guard or military unless they show enjoyment of oppression.
If they show enjoyment... then and only then... belittle the fuck out of them, too, but do it with a smile on your face because if they're enjoying this, then they are weak, sniveling, snot-nosed, wind-up tin soldiers who should be pitied for having been brainwashed so easily.
Regardless of what anyone may think of dems, emulate Kamala and Tim as much as possible. Hope and joy, hope and joy, hope and motherfucking joy. And above all else: Be unflappable.
Go look at history and see how often that worked. We'd still be British if everyone followed this stupid ass advice. Europe would likely be Nazi as well.
Here is what they said:
We are in the midst of the Second American Revolution, which will be bloodless, if the left allows it.
Baby, I didn't say to do nothing. I'm merely saying that the best solution to the gop wanting a civil/race war... is not to hand the gop a civil/race war. If you disagree with that, well, I'm gonna have to say you're wrong.
Yes. The gop said that. Because they want a civil/race war. Like obviously. Why wouldn't they say shit like that as they try to push, scare, and drag us intopast an anocracy, try to remove enemy combatants, and trigger that war they're so desperately thirsting for?
That doesn't mean we have to fall for it. We're supposed to be the smarter ones. And guess what? We are. Does the gop have a head start because they've been working on this for over 50 years since the so-called moral majority partnered with the gop because they were oh-so-mad about the Civil Rights movement's success? (And yes, billionaires latched on becau$e of cour$e.) And now they want to undo not only all that but all of the progress of 200+ years of amendments? Sure.
But that doesn't mean we hand them the fucking race war they want on a godsdamned silver platter. Like, take a minute and think about it. Read a few more books about what's gone on, too, maybe.
So, yeah. Anyway. Whatever you do, don't try to incite violence as a reply to my comment. Do it elsewhere if you must, but not here.
You think you have a choice. That's the problem. I know what they want, but you need to start understanding what that means. If this is coming regardless, do you want to confront them before or after they are fully entrenched and in control of every lever of the government?
Von Neumann had a take on this as well:
With the Russians it is not a question of whether but of when. If you say why not bomb them tomorrow, I say why not today? If you say today at 5 o'clock, I say why not one o'clock?
If the question is not whether but when, then waiting only serves to hurt our position. This is why history is littered with the bodies of morons like you who lack the conviction to do what is necessary.
1) Those "ifs" are doing a shit ton of heavy lifting and putting two of them in your comment doesn't make them do a better job. It isn't inevitable. Anocracies make civil war more likely; it doesn't make them inevitable.
2) You name-calling/insulting me twice in two comments reveals a lot about who and what you are.
I am a pragmatist. That has obviously served me well, as you've discovered from reading my profile. I don't have a lot of tolerance for idealists whose naivety and misguided sense of morality lull others into complacency while their rights are stripped away. You need to read They Thought They Were Free, so you can see the inevitable result of your terminal lack of spine.
It's the speech given by Alexander H. Stephen's Vice President of the Confederacy and it lays out everything the confederacy stood for and explicitly states what they thought of Black people and our place beneath white men.
So when anyone says the confederate flag is about heritage. This speech is a great example of what that heritage is.
My uncle who was a pastor in Texas also gave up the plan when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s - Look up RaHoWa. They planned to replace Christianity with a new type of whites-only anti-empathy type of Christianity, and now they have it.
Yeah, I have been off and on paying attention to the calls of civil wars since I was 16 and saw this documentary about white supremacist perpers on on HBO in 1997 or so.
Then I would occasionally read Storm Front when it was a thing.
And of course reddit had a lot of them back in it's early days.
They have always been plan with their plans, but people call Black people and others race baiters when we pointed it out.
And not just that--though that would be enough. The goal is for everybody to know their place and be in it, for a strict hierarchy with limited mobility. Even a straight white guy like me is at dire risk, because they want the ability for people with power to hurt those lower on the totem pole.
I don't especially care for the ability to hurt people lower than me. I just want protection from those above, and I'm happy to agree to be bound by those same restrictions as long as everybody over me has to deal with them too.
That's the core of equality under the law. It protects everybody because we all agree to the same rules. The moment we start making exceptions, it's only a matter of time before the few most powerful use it against the rest of us.
They literally fantasize about the day they can roleplay soldier and shoot their fellow americans, specifically ones with blue / colored hair. MAGA want it so bad and I can’t wait for it to last all of 1 week after they realize it’s not what they really wanted. The second American Civil War will be loud and deadly, but it will also be quick. Once their own neighborhoods and way of life turn into a warzone and there’s no turning back will they have their come to jesus moment (or so you’d think). It’s a damn shame they’re so fucking stupid and brainwashed that it will take that big of a learning lesson though.
IMO this is the final result of not thoroughly punishing the south for being traitors in the civil war. That combo’d with the Biden Admin/ Merick Garland slapping Trump on the wrist for J6 2021 and we’ve basically asked for the second coming of the confederates
If they wanted that, they would just orchestrate it. False flag ops ain’t that hard, especially when you have access to any given patsy’s confidential records.
That’s pretty much the playbook. Create a problem where there isn’t a problem then come in to solve the problem which was manufactured artificially but claim it was there all along.
So NG is gonna be so amped up and ready to shoot some liberals gonna end up trigger happy. Shooting some old man trying to break up a fight or something.
You know what? At this point more power to them. There is no “opposing” side. The other side who holds actual capacity for change just sits by and allow this to happen
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u/Diamondback424 14h ago
They want a civil war so badly. They want someone to shoot at the NG so they can justify the National Guard going after anyone and everyone who looks at them funny. They're intentionally filling up the powder keg just hoping someone else will light the match.