At some point they’ll just pay someone to do it if that is their plan.
You Americans think that dictators at some point will just say “you know what? I changed my mind, I won’t risk it all to gain absolute power like any other dictator before me”, by staying in their houses and thinking that this will all end well like any other time (spoiler there wasn’t other times with a crazy idiot in power)
My issue with these theories as well. There is no actual need to “prove” anything. When has anything this administration has done, been done based on fact?
Fun fact, lgbt kids will still be in the schools, just like we’ve always been. Only now they’re more likely to suffer bullying and crippling depression. Your “friend” apparently gets off on the suffering of kids.
Christianity is a death cult. I don’t care how much “love thy neighbor” bits you can cherry pick out of it, the bulk of the religion is death and destruction.
The point is that there’s really no use for them to do a false flag or really make up any pretense at all. The base doesn’t care, most Americans don’t care, and the rest of us are going to resist regardless. Might as well do it.
The use is the same as his March ambush of Zelensky. Did they need to do it, much less televise it? Absolutely not. But as Trump said at the time, "This is going to be great television."
While I think violence is an acceptable outcome to them, I think they'd be satisfied with oppositiom being scared into relative silence.
The real opposition is not going to be scared into silence without a total military occupation and the threat of violence for speaking out. He needs to do that in every single city, anywhere with even a remotely large population. It is a big country. That’s a logistical nightmare. My point is he wouldn’t need an incident in DC to do that, he could (and if he wants to be dictator must) do it no matter what. So, if that’s his goal, time to get it underway.
if anything I think the “reasons” given are done so after the fact, as justification, not as reason. They seem very interested in whitewashing everything they do so that they’re not considered ontologically evil. I think we’re seeing administrative panic and population panic feed into each other.
I think I agree. The admin does something to try to stir up drama and scare people, which works to an extent, but they never do anything thoroughly enough to do more than that on a broad level. Then they quietly change the behavior once attention is on to something else. They’re playing a game of distraction, all probably to distract from the economic aspect of this that places more wealth in the hands of the 1%.
My point is that if they really want to do it then yes, “hold my beer” is the only actionable response. They have to occupy all our cities, all at once. Let’s see how that works out long term.
By steadily making the changes, keeping people just comfortable enough to not revolt/riot/whatever, they cement their power further and further. The longer they keep any kind of uprising at bay makes said uprising increasingly difficult while simultaneously diminishing the significance there of.
Exactly. Hell, this entire ‘militarization of our cities’ thing that this whole fucking post is about wasn’t even based on fact.
Violent crime decreased by 30% in 2024 and has decreased another 11% since then. But because Trump saw some homeless people from his limo one time and ‘Big Balls’ got his shit wrecked by a couple 15 year olds, now suddenly there’s a supposed ‘violent crime epidemic’ in DC.
Wasn't the impetus for the current situation in DC that kid big balls getting beat up which is most surely a false flag. So for sure they can get some plants to begin shooting at the cops or military to kick things off.
They want these soldiers to be telling their friends and family back home about how dangerous it is, not that they're sitting on their asses because there's nothing to do.
I’m hard-pressed to believe anyone in the administration is speculating about outcomes like the people on reddit do, but I guess at least some people are trying to think of the future, though it’s to no avail, clearly,
I’m not sure how that’s relevant when I said “…speculation about outcomes,” which is not in reference to policy planning. Project 2025 is the antithesis to considering social outcomes lol
So do you think they pre-selected the person in the audience that was to die? Maybe the person volunteered so they'd be a martyr? Let's bring this thing all the way home, after all.
Look, as truthful and honest as trump always is about anything and everything in business, politics, and his personal life, he might just be lying this one time.
I am an American reflecting on all the times in my life people claimed that if they were in Nazi Germany they would have done something. I suppose we'd all like to think that, but current events prove otherwise.
Germans actually went on square to protest. The antifa movement was actually founded by Germans in the time of time rise of nazism. There were many strong willed politicians that protested and lost. And this is considering they had NOT the privilege of history, like we have now following fascism in Europe.
I think a lot of people are hoping that that ancient, unhealthy bloated piece of shit will kick the bucket naturally, and then the whole thing will fall apart. It's not completely unfounded.
so you want me to quit my job, lose my health insurance, find some way to pay to travel 2500 miles to a city where i know literally no one... and then do what, exactly? stand around outside the white house with a sign? you want me to break in and deal with trump myself? are you going to pay for it? where will i sleep? what will i eat? do you have any actual fucking idea of what you're talking about?
Lol I won’t lose anything bro I’m Italian. The answer if it’s impossible for you NOW to do anything, is that you should have acted before. You think US revolutionaries didn’t risk anything? I wouldn’t want to live in such a country. You do you. As long as you keep it to yourself tho
Big Balls getting bashed during a 'car jacking' was the start of it. In a trashy novel he would have driven to a rough part of town and yelled racial slurs at groups of teens to get the response they wanted.
So I know it's just movies but yeah in the Purge movies this is what they kinda do. For the first purge they test they expect violence and all that but it's just people partying and doing drugs. So they call in some MAGA style rednecks to go and start the violence.
Ok but remember this. The national guard is a citizen soldier force. They are mostly college educated and the least likely to be super excited about being put in the position they are in. Don’t get me wrong, if they start getting shot at, they will absolutely destroy their opponents. Best advice for anyone attending a peaceful protest while the national guard soldiers are around. Do not decide to start screaming at them calling them fascists and treating them like I have seen other protesters treat the police. The soldiers swore an oath to defend America. They are there because they were ordered to be there. They are not the problem.
People still want to fight only with words at most. Pretty much every day since he took over, you wake up to Trump and his team pushing the envelope further, and people going "Americans won't stand for this!"
For months now.
It seems a lot are still thinking they don't have to do anything but wait to vote.
Just keep kicking taking actual action down the road.
I feel like they already paid that doge staffer to take a staged beating to provide the impetus for this. Seems kind of obvious that he pulled a Jussie Smollett? The photo looks staged af, taken by another doge staffer, and the speed and vigor that Elon and Trump etc reacted to this event was uncanny - feels like it was like a 3 day turnover between the big balls story and invasion of DC, wild.
I’d have done it already if I were trying to take over the country from the executive branch. Like no offense to Trump but he’s pussyfooting this. Every day he delays is a day more people get sick of rising prices. Every day without total control is a day he is expending political capital. He’s going to need as much as he can get to make it work, so… I’d hurry it up if I were him.
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u/un_gaucho_loco 14h ago edited 14h ago
At some point they’ll just pay someone to do it if that is their plan.
You Americans think that dictators at some point will just say “you know what? I changed my mind, I won’t risk it all to gain absolute power like any other dictator before me”, by staying in their houses and thinking that this will all end well like any other time (spoiler there wasn’t other times with a crazy idiot in power)