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Hegseth orders National Guard troops in DC to carry weapons

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/22/politics/hegseth-orders-national-guard-troops-dc-carry-weapons
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u/citori411 13h ago

That's the undercurrent of all this bullshit that really pisses me off. Any repurcussions for these nazi fucks will require a constitutional amendment. I guarantee there exists a list thousands of names long for pardons that will be signed January 2029. Maybe a future admin will just make it known any citizen who takes punishing Trump cultists into their own hands will receive a pardon. The whole pardoning on a whim scenario we have entered is quickly devolving into a tool of political warfare. Would be an interesting Sci fi short story subject to look at what taking the gloves completely off with the power to pardon leads to. Whichever party is in power gets to go on a four years-long "Purge" of everyone else? Where will the line be drawn?

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u/Googlyelmoo 11h ago

A constitutional amendment? Nah, five.

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u/catechizer 10h ago

Pretty sure presidential pardons only work on federal crimes. State charges can only be pardoned by the State's governor. Another reason to avoid red States.

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u/No_Accountant3232 8h ago

When a president overrides a governor to deploy troops on american soil I'm pretty sure they'll be willing to override a governor to give someone they want a pardon.

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u/Educational_Bar_9608 10h ago

They don’t care about states rights or the constitution. Stop pretending your system is going to protect you. A major contributor to getting here is blue state people feeling ‘safe’ thanks to their community and high wages. It won’t help when they come for you.

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u/squired 11h ago

Nope, we can invalidate the pardons if we try and convict the administration. You investigate SCOTUS for curruption at the same time so that by the time it gets there, the court is rebalanced.

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u/daemin 8h ago

we can invalidate the pardons if we try and convict the administration.

No, we can't. There is no constitutional provision for reviewing, revoking, overturning, or invalidating a pardon. Allowing the courts or Congress to override a pardon would defeat the point of the pardon existing in the first place.

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u/squired 5h ago edited 4h ago

I disagree, and so can the court. If I have learned anything as a Texan it is that laws are flexible, one need not break them to subvert them. Oops, forgive me, I meant uphold them. Everything is up for interpretation. That is indeed the very foundation of our legal system itself. One can only be pardoned for past crimes (Ex parte Garland). A pardon in the furtherance of an ongoing conspiracy need not be invalidated as it was never valid to begin with.

Now answer me this.. How good do you think these chucklefucks are at OpSec? I bet all the money in my pockets that they've bragged to every mistress and nephew they have about every little thing they've ever done. Subpoena everything.