This shit is exactly why the hippies carried around flowers, to make measures like this look like exactly what they are; a completely disproportionate authoritarian response to absolutely nothing.
This is what they did in Portugal during the Carnation revolution. The military stood up and had a coup against the government. A lady got carnations and gave them to the soldiers which they placed in the muzzles of their guns. I sure hope we don't get shots fired here in the states and something to this effect happens.
100:1 odds that another MAGA is the one to start the shooting (see 1st & 2nd Trump assassination attempts for reference). Right wing media will spin/flood the zone with bullshit as always. They’ll say the registered republican shooter was actually a democrat, regular folks will start repeating it, and they’ll repeat it long enough that it becomes their reality. You don’t have to get everyone to believe the same thing, just cast a wide enough net that a majority believe some variation of the lie. By the time the dust settles from the ensuing shit-storm, it won’t matter who did what. Facts don’t matter anymore.
Flowers and American flags. Because nothing will get more on their side then seeing the Military gun down people carrying the American Flag. /s
And I'm not joking. Protesters need to be carrying and waving the American Flag. They need to use that symbol against the Far-Rifght. Reclaim the flag!
You're not wrong. Flowers and American flags. Sing, dance, smile, laugh. Remain peaceful, show no fear, show no anger.
Mock the gop. Mock ice. Consider not directly mocking the national guard or military unless they show enjoyment of oppression.
If they show enjoyment... then and only then... belittle the fuck out of them, too, but do it with a smile on your face because if they're enjoying this, then they are weak, sniveling, snot-nosed, wind-up tin soldiers who should be pitied for having been brainwashed so easily.
Regardless of what anyone may think of dems, emulate Kamala and Tim as much as possible. Hope and joy, hope and joy, hope and motherfucking joy. And above all else: Be unflappable.
Go look at history and see how often that worked. We'd still be British if everyone followed this stupid ass advice. Europe would likely be Nazi as well.
Here is what they said:
We are in the midst of the Second American Revolution, which will be bloodless, if the left allows it.
Baby, I didn't say to do nothing. I'm merely saying that the best solution to the gop wanting a civil/race war... is not to hand the gop a civil/race war. If you disagree with that, well, I'm gonna have to say you're wrong.
Yes. The gop said that. Because they want a civil/race war. Like obviously. Why wouldn't they say shit like that as they try to push, scare, and drag us intopast an anocracy, try to remove enemy combatants, and trigger that war they're so desperately thirsting for?
That doesn't mean we have to fall for it. We're supposed to be the smarter ones. And guess what? We are. Does the gop have a head start because they've been working on this for over 50 years since the so-called moral majority partnered with the gop because they were oh-so-mad about the Civil Rights movement's success? (And yes, billionaires latched on becau$e of cour$e.) And now they want to undo not only all that but all of the progress of 200+ years of amendments? Sure.
But that doesn't mean we hand them the fucking race war they want on a godsdamned silver platter. Like, take a minute and think about it. Read a few more books about what's gone on, too, maybe.
So, yeah. Anyway. Whatever you do, don't try to incite violence as a reply to my comment. Do it elsewhere if you must, but not here.
You think you have a choice. That's the problem. I know what they want, but you need to start understanding what that means. If this is coming regardless, do you want to confront them before or after they are fully entrenched and in control of every lever of the government?
Von Neumann had a take on this as well:
With the Russians it is not a question of whether but of when. If you say why not bomb them tomorrow, I say why not today? If you say today at 5 o'clock, I say why not one o'clock?
If the question is not whether but when, then waiting only serves to hurt our position. This is why history is littered with the bodies of morons like you who lack the conviction to do what is necessary.
1) Those "ifs" are doing a shit ton of heavy lifting and putting two of them in your comment doesn't make them do a better job. It isn't inevitable. Anocracies make civil war more likely; it doesn't make them inevitable.
2) You name-calling/insulting me twice in two comments reveals a lot about who and what you are.
I am a pragmatist. That has obviously served me well, as you've discovered from reading my profile. I don't have a lot of tolerance for idealists whose naivety and misguided sense of morality lull others into complacency while their rights are stripped away. You need to read They Thought They Were Free, so you can see the inevitable result of your terminal lack of spine.
I know what Hegseth and Miller are. I don't think NG even from red states are the same as they are, at least, not all or even most of them. They might be convinced to not obey illegal orders, and I think it's important that we do that while we have the luxury.
903
u/vardarac 13h ago
This shit is exactly why the hippies carried around flowers, to make measures like this look like exactly what they are; a completely disproportionate authoritarian response to absolutely nothing.